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D4T: Right, explain the math you just copied and pasted. And then explain why when it’s within 200 to 600 miles it is very accurate. And then explain why you lost this point.
I can no longer deal with him, D. I put it up plain as day and even matched the 8 inch formula with spherical trig and Pythagorean theorem. I pointed out that we ARE using a parabolic formula to calculate a PARABOLIC curve. Yet he comes right back with a chart with a blue half circle that makes the same mistake I just corrected.
NOW HEAR THIS: Nobody is trying to use the 8 inch formula for thousands of miles around a ball! We use that formula for a VERY SMALL FRACTION of the ball. And very small fractions of a ball ARE parabolas! Here we go again…
The top illustration is obviously a ball. The center image is a section of that ball magnified 10x. What do we call that downward curving line that I’ve circled in blue? Yep… that’s a parabola. How many miles does that parabola go? 1000 miles. So yes, up to one thousand miles, the curve of the earth (before it starts curving back around itself to form a circle) IS a parabola. And doesn’t t8’s argument include the “rebuttal” that the 8 inch formula is only valid for parabolas? HELLO! We’re using it FOR parabolas! In fact the diagram that HE posted shows the same exact thing, and even carries it out for the same exact 1000 miles! Here is the image he posted…
So if you look at the purple, red, and green lines in HIS post, they all align up to about 800 miles. Only then does one of the circular lines start to veer from the parabolic line. And like I keep saying, nobody is using the 8 inch formula for 800 miles! The farthest anyone has even seen across the earth is 237 miles!
Please God… please let this sink in this time.
D4T: t8 if you want to know the answer go back and look what I wrote. Otherwise you just sound like a little child who keeps repeating their self over and over because they want to hear something else.
And as far as the faith-shaming goes there is a well know phrase that says something about “casting the first stone”. You need to get over your hate man. Then take a course in debating.
I wonder if Ed and t8 know that, according to the CURRENT helical model, the moon’s speed varies quite a bit. (That didn’t used to be the case when people envisioned perfectly circular orbits. But alas, observational evidence made them change their fantasy to elliptical orbits.) If the moon orbits in an ellipse, then it speeds up and slows down. Do we ever notice this speeding up and slowing down from earth?
Yet if the sun does it, it’s the end of the flat earth? 🥱🙄
t8 if you want to know the answer go back and look what I wrote.
Well that is going to take a long time looking for that. Sounds like you just want me to forget about it hoping I am too busy to check. Link me the post number or just state your answer again. Better still just answer the question I have asked multiple times. It would take you 3 seconds.
I want to know what you believe Dig because you haven’t actually stated what you believe and this discussion is about being honest to get to the bottom of the Flat Earth doctrine. You can state the idea that you do not have the answer or you think it is possible but not sure that the sun moves faster. I need something as this is part of having honest dialogue. Let your yes be yes or no be no, anything else is from the evil one.
Q: Does the sun move faster in the Australian sky than it does in the USA?
A: Yes / No / Don’t know.@mikeboll64
Good Mike is here. Do you have the courage and honesty to answer this very simple question Mike?
Or are we going to get more smokescreen posts?Q: Does the sun move faster in the Australian sky than it does in the USA when comparing like seasonal days?
A: Yes / No / Don’t know.Please, let’s get some closure on this point before moving onto the vacuum of space.
Thank you in advance.
Mike, he’s a one note song – confusion.
There’s no need to answer his question, if he doesn’t like it he’ll ignore it and ask again and again to try to get another answer. I even reposted my answers for someone but apparently that was ignored too. Now he wants me to walk him thru it again. Not happening!
I was just thinking that I would have to write him off too so your post was timely! By the way, I saw the video with Thrive and Survive the other day. I didn’t catch it live but not too long after. Nice!
False accusation from Dig
There’s no need to answer his question, if he doesn’t like it he’ll ignore it and ask again and again to try to get another answer.
I am only interested in what you really believe because we are suppose to be having an honest dialog in order to get the truth. If you believe differently to me, that is your choice. I just ask for honesty.
Over the years, I have seen many people more interested in being right than seeking the truth. You seem to fit into that group because the answer I seek takes a mere 3 seconds to post. But you would rather spend minutes if not hours giving me the run around. That is how I know you are not being honest in this discussion. If you answer you answer, and whether I like it or not has no bearing because you answered honestly and we can move on from there.
They will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear
I was just thinking that I would have to write him off too so your post was timely! By the way, I saw the video with Thrive and Survive the other day. I didn’t catch it live but not too long after. Nice!
Ignorance is bliss. Ignore the hard questions and focus on things that look like they support your view. This was prophesied.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires,
The Flat Earth cult fulfills this perfectly. We live in a time where men believe what they want to believe while the truth takes a back seat.
t8 I’m not responding to your self righteous mumbo jumbo when all can see that what you claim for others – you are the one doing it. In fact I feel dirty sometimes just responding to you so no response from me. If no one else decides to chime in on this topic then there will be no thread with just the two of us.
D4T: Mike, he’s a one note song – confusion.
There’s no need to answer his question, if he doesn’t like it he’ll ignore it and ask again and again to try to get another answer. I even reposted my answers for someone but apparently that was ignored too. Now he wants me to walk him thru it again. Not happening!
I was just thinking that I would have to write him off too so your post was timely! By the way, I saw the video with Thrive and Survive the other day. I didn’t catch it live but not too long after. Nice!
Thanks man. I just uploaded a YT yesterday with observations where the shadows on the moon matched the Doppler tower… https://youtu.be/KOHlRCyo-gg
We’ll be going back on 4-30-20 to try some more. But whatever the results, I’ll post them. If they match again, then so be it. As for Tater, I’ve got a lot of very intelligent globe proponents who follow my channel. One of them consistently calls me a liar. I’ve gone through the same steps with him as I did with t8… asking him not to, explaining that it’s better to say “inaccurate” instead of “liar”, etc. But like t8, he continues to do it. So while I allow his comments to remain public (YT gives you the option to block comments and/or the ones who made them), I no longer converse with him. The difference is that this is an evolution-believing atheist, and so I can understand his lack of moral character. Conversely, this is what I usually see from the majority of the globie atheists who comment…
“Thank you for honest video, Mike. I knew you will be able to capture this ;-)” – Harry Callahan
“Nice going Mike, there were still some slight discrepancies, for sure, but what was your distance from the Doppler ball…” Adrena1in
“I seriously think you are on the right path and genuine in your approach… You seem to be willing to listen and admit that you may be wrong. I know I am wrong sometimes.” – Igor Grujic
I have quoted these guys in many of my follow-up videos. We have gone back and forth for months. They are atheists who believe in Satan’s heliocentric (aka “sun-worshiping”) model. Yet even so, they know how to carry on a respectable discussion with someone they disagree with. They often say I’m confused and wrong about this or that. But they don’t call me a liar.
So why can these atheists treat me with that kind of respect while “Tater the Christian Peacekeeper” cannot? I don’t mind disagreement. I don’t even mind being completely wrong on something – as I’ve been numerous times. But I won’t tolerate being called a liar. If I can’t fix it with subtle suggestions to play nice, then I eventually just walk away from that person altogether.
Anyway, I’ll link the forthcoming observations here when I make them. Take care, brother.
I saw the video and it’s great even though the results were not what may have been desired. When I saw it I was immediately struck with the fact that you are after the truth and not just spinning things to win arguments. I will say that it doesn’t answer the hotspot question though. Why no hotspot on the moon? Oh well, that’s for another day.
Yeh, I think my time debating with haters is growing extremely short.
I’m subscribed to you and TaS so I can keep up with your experiments. I was blown away by your camera setup on the last live video! You’ve got the system down! I wish I could have had a better look at Venus but it ended before it got dark enough.
Blessings to you and yours!
How can you guys come here with a straight face and speak as if you have some kind of authority. You lost that ages ago.
You guys cannot even answer simple questions because you struggle with pride and can’t admit that you don’t know.
I judge by the fruit.
Let your yes be yes and no be no. Everything else is from the Evil One.
Does the sun move quicker across Australia than it does in the US?
Yes / No / I don’t know.
If you say ‘yes’, you have lost this whole debate.
If you say ‘no’, then the Flat Earth model is wrong.
If you say ‘I don’t know’, then you are a bit clueless, but at least you are honest.God won’t judge you for being clueless or lacking in intelligence, but he will judge you if you are not honest.
Up to you.
I encourage you to do the right thing.
t8 I’m not responding to your self righteous mumbo jumbo.
How is it mumbo jumbo asking a simple question about the sun moving faster and wanting a yes / no / I don’t know answer?
It’s not mumbo jumbo, rather its called investigating your theory.
This is proof that you guys have lost because you are too ashamed to answer a question that exposes your theory and models.
Shame on you guys for your dishonesty. As believers are we not suppose to be honest?
I pray God will show you why being dishonest is a bad thing so you can repent of it.
The only mumbo jumbo I can see here is the fact that you are teaching a bizarre theory and ignoring anything that proves it wrong.
Your itching ears only listen to people you agree with.
Such people were written of long ago.
D4T: I’m subscribed to you and TaS so I can keep up with your experiments. I was blown away by your camera setup on the last live video! You’ve got the system down! I wish I could have had a better look at Venus but it ended before it got dark enough.
Blessings to you and yours!
Yeah, I think I’ve lost this shadow battle. Just remember that correlation is very different than causation. Thanks for the compliment on my setup. I like it a lot. 😊 It was SO windy that I never did get a good shot of Venus that night.
Talk to you soon. 👍
Looks like Flat Earthers around the globe are throwing the towel in
If you are not embarrassed yet, you will be eventually.
There’s one sure way to tell if we live on a ball – measure it. Well as it turns out the globe people have given us a measurement which is 8” per mile squared. That is up to a point which Mike has well established as a scientific rule. He did this from the globe people’s own math. Indisputable.
So it’s very simple, do the math!
In this short video there are multiple examples of this math being applied. What did they find? Well, it’s the globe people’s math so it is fair, we didn’t come up with our own measuring system! Let’s take a look shall we!?
Now if anyone can explain away these facts I’ll listen to them!
Funny how the Australian sun and the moon disprove the Flat Earth. No answer from the flatties. They lost and they can’t admit it. Ignorance is bliss.
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