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Jesus also says that the earthquakes and wars are not the end, but only the beginning of the birth pangs. THEN comes the abomination of desolation (a unique event that hasn’t happened before)… and THEN the sun and moon not giving THEIR light (because they each have their own light) and the stars falling to the earth (more events that haven’t happened before).
Hi Mike,
The abomination of desolation was set up in 688ad.
If you can’t get past Prophecy correct, naturally you’re
going to struggle trying to figure it out as a future event.____________
God bless
Ed JI would say he is talking about angels.
Hi T8,
That does appear to be what he is talking about.
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Ed JT8, I posted something here in this thread, then
I edited it about 3 or 4 times and Poof it blinked offthe post is now gone ???
Revelation does say a star falls to the earth and has the key to the abyss. Stars are spoken of as sentient beings/angels in the Bible and in Enoch, so I agree the third swept to the earth by the dragon’s tail are angels. But are they also the lights we see in the sky and call “stars”? Are the stars truly living creatures? Satan fell like lightning, and Enoch speaks of angel/stars who appear as lightning, but without losing their original star form. Enoch (and Jude) also speaks of the 7 stars who trangressed the law of God and have a bad fate awaiting them.
Ed, I believe T8 can retrieve your post from his spam folder. The same happened to me. The site reads the repeated edits as you spamming the thread with the same stuff multiple times and kicks it to spam.
It could be as simple as angels being cast down and looking like lights from the sky coming toward Earth. In other words, the heavenly bodies made of rocks, gas, ice etc stay put. This event may look to us like the stars falling. After angels are creatures of light or can appear as angels of light.
Okay, but does that align with the most obvious meaning of “a third of the stars fell to the earth”? I mean, when Jesus showed John that a third of the rivers would become bitter, and a third of the trees would be destroyed, we rationally understand that as actual rivers and actual trees, right? We’ll presumably be able to observe these ruined rivers and trees, right? So why wouldn’t we also presume that a third of the lights we call stars will be absent from the sky?
It does line up. When John sees rivers and trees, he is likely to use those words. When he sees lights falling from the sky, even if they are angels, he could well say stars as that is what it looks like. There are a number of possibilities here.
So why wouldn’t we also presume that a third of the lights we call stars will be absent from the sky?
I wouldn’t rule that out either. If the atmosphere was darkened for whatever reason, it could block out a third of the stars and make the sun and moon black or red for that matter.
It could be that as the atmosphere darkens, a third of the angelic host are cast down.
No matter what your view of the earth is, no one is forced to believe that sun’s are going to collide with the earth.
I have often wondered why angels and stars are sometimes synonymous. The morning stars for example. Then again, people are often likened to trees and empires are beasts. I guess there is a code to scripture, so the wicked and proud will not understand.
Is it possible that the stars we see in the sky ARE angels/sentient beings… as is said throughout Enoch and the Bible?
Is it possible that a third of them WILL fall to the earth – leaving our sky with only 2/3 of the stars we normally see?
Anything is possible, but I believe most stars are suns (balls of gas). That said, angels are beings of light and it is said in scripture and they can certainly illuminate the earth with their glory.
After this I saw another angel coming down from heaven. He had great authority, and the earth was illuminated by his splendor.
It could also be that each star has an angel over it. Seriously without letting my imagination go too crazy, stars could be also be star gates to other suns or solar systems and black holes could be gates to other galaxies / heavens. Who knows because we experience the physical realm and if we could see all the spirit realm and how it intertwines with the physical, we would likely see many things we do not currently understand and how they are linked. Further, if angels are not physical ,then they are not subject to the speed of light restriction, so the universe would be very different for them.
The Book of Enoch talks about the Watchers who appear to be a type of angel who watch over mankind. We also know that angels often appear as men. Watchers are mention in the Bible too. I wouldn’t be surprised if angels were tasked to watch over different worlds in the universe. I do not think we are the only world, but believe there are many. And even in scripture, the names of constellations have great meaning which seems weird if they were merely LED bulbs or even of they were suns.
He replied, “I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven.
I think angels are symbolized as stars.
The nation of Israel is a fig tree.
Empires are beasts.
Beginning and end is alpha and omega.
Jesus is a lion, lamb, and a rock.
Satan is a serpent.
King is a horn
Gold is purity of character.
The Holy Spirit can be likened to oil, fire or water.
Words are a sword.
So I don’t think we can take any of these symbols and form a doctrine or scientific principle about the symbol. We cannot say that one third of the suns will collide with Earth if we believe the sky is made up of other suns in the same way we are not going to make the case that snakes are devils or the Devil and if snakes go extinct, then the Devil will no longer exist.
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Well you are free to believe that a literal snake spoke to Eve, but there are many ways of interpreting this including that to Satan using a snake as a puppet or a physical thing so Eve wasn’t speaking to a spirit. I’m not going to make a judgement on that, but needless to say that you need to read scripture knowing that it is coded.
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