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Well, obviously it’s a lie that God told to mankind because mankind was too stupid to understand the truth. You know that whole “created in His image” stuff is fiction also, we have obviously evolved from primates. Of course we were too stupid to grasp that so God had to lie to us again and pretend that we were actually “created” this advanced. There is no “firmament” and no windows and now that we know better we can see the beauty in God’s Word that He cared enough to lie to us over and over because of our evolutionary beginnings. Sun created on day 4, come on, I think even a Sasquatch can see thru that fabrication! [Sarcasm off!]
Think about it, that’s the scenario that is being put forth from some people! God in His infinite, pure, righteous and true nature lied to mankind! Yes, the same God who it is said of “cannot lie”! Yep, He lied to protect us ignorant people who were created in His image. Wow, some can twist anything to believe what they want.
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This update just installed on my computer yesterday, and this morning I saw this Forbes article… so I followed the instructions and uninstalled the update so I don’t suffer the Blue Screen of Death or the other many problems they’re reporting. If you’re running Windows 10, you might want to do the same just in case…
Can anyone explain why the earth appears to move at two completely different speeds given the same conditions on two “spacecraft”? It’s in this 4 min video.
Um… because what you’re seeing in both of those videos is CGI, and not real? 😁
Btw, just finished those videos you sent me. Good stuff – thanks for that. I thought I was the first to bring up the windows of the heaven point – since I hadn’t heard it before. I only wish Nathan Roberts would have pointed his audience to Genesis 8:2 (“the windows of heaven were closed”) to help his “water canopy” rebuttal – since it fits perfectly with his scriptures that mention the waters above the firmament AFTER the flood – and is another reminder that these are permanent waters above the firmament, and permanent windows that God can open and close as He wishes. So the idea that the “water canopy” used to encircle the earth in space but was all used up by the flood and no longer exists is doubly refuted by scripture.
T8 is (once again) stumped by scripture, because he can’t fit waters that STILL exist above the firmament into his heliocentric model… nor can his model provide a sensible answer as to what those windows are.
Hey EdJ! I just watched this one today and thought about you. The entire thing is really good, but I’ve queued it up to some clips from that Google-produced Loon video I mentioned before. The Google rep says the things I told you earlier, but then mentions that they can now release DOZENS of those balloon satellites PER DAY… from EACH of their many launching stations around the world. So maybe HUNDREDS per day? Again… WHY? Anyway, I have it queued to the Google rep part…
Wow! I didn’t know that! I played with balloons when I was a kid, who knew I was ahead of my time!
Now when I see those “satellites” at night I know what they are!
Ive go to check out more of this, fascinating! Thanks for that Mike!Dig4truth. …..Just go buy a cheep telescope and focuse it on the international spaces station as it goes by in it’s orbit, trust me it is not a Balloon . This flat earth thing is a very interesting experience in how totally decieved people can get, even in light of overwhelming evidence to the contary. Simply amazing what the human mind can imagine even in the light of the truth.
Peace and love to you and yours. ……..gene
Yes, it is interesting how people get deceived. I would argue that a person cannot be totally truthful and be fully deceived. Men can be led into all truth and this is part of the journey that the children of God partake of.
T8 is (once again) stumped by scripture, because he can’t fit waters that STILL exist above the firmament into his heliocentric model… nor can his model provide a sensible answer as to what those windows are.
Far from it. If heavenly beings can walk through walls in our physical reality, then why would you think that everything about creation is solid like glass? When you die and see the tunnel with light at the end, do you suppose that is plastic like a slide at a water park? Come on Mike, rise up from where you have fallen. Not everything in creation is solid, but it is still real.
Portals are rarely solid in construction from what I can tell. And because we see and experience through a limited part of the spectrum, imagine seeing everything. Yes you would probably see the souls of men departing through a portal, just that you cannot see or touch it with your physical senses.
I bet theme moment you die, you will glimpse if not see fully what you see now plus a whole lot more.
Wow! I didn’t know that! I played with balloons when I was a kid, who knew I was ahead of my time!
Now when I see those “satellites” at night I know what they are!
Ive go to check out more of this, fascinating! Thanks for that Mike!Leave them; they are blind guides. If the blind lead the blind, both will fall into a pit.”
Well, obviously it’s a lie that God told to mankind because mankind was too stupid to understand the truth. You know that whole “created in His image” stuff is fiction also, we have obviously evolved from primates. Of course we were too stupid to grasp that so God had to lie to us again and pretend that we were actually “created” this advanced. There is no “firmament” and no windows and now that we know better we can see the beauty in God’s Word that He cared enough to lie to us over and over because of our evolutionary beginnings. Sun created on day 4, come on, I think even a Sasquatch can see thru that fabrication! [Sarcasm off!]
To use your own argument here. Could it be that you are too stupid to reconcile scripture with increased knowledge prophesied for the end times? I don’t have a problem with scripture and the fact that the Earth is a globe. There is not one scripture that contradicts this.
T8 is (once again) stumped by scripture, because he can’t fit waters that STILL exist above the firmament into his heliocentric model… nor can his model provide a sensible answer as to what those windows are.
We know that the atmosphere contains moisture (water particles) and it is entirely possible that there was a lot more water in the atmosphere during the Antediluvian age leading to a greenhouse effect type climate where even the poles were warm. And when this moisture came down to earth and turned much of earth into sea, it is of course possible that it flowed down in pockets just as the fountains of the deep pushed water up in possible columns. Neither have to be made of physical materials as you assume. Today you see it rain in bands in the distance. We give it a name like a squall. You could call that a portal if you wish. The pathway of moisture from the sky to the earth is a portal.
Here’s two portals side by side. I took this pic and can tell you it is not fake. Thermal heat rises up from the ground evaporating water in the expected upward direction. Sometimes you see these funnels (portals) dance over the lake.
Gene: Just go buy a cheep telescope and focuse it on the international spaces station as it goes by in it’s orbit, trust me it is not a Balloon . This flat earth thing is a very interesting experience in how totally decieved people can get, even in light of overwhelming evidence to the contary. Simply amazing what the human mind can imagine even in the light of the truth.
Still waiting for that “overwhelming evidence”, Gene. I keep asking, and you keep going silent every time I ask. Hmm…
Btw, how was the ISS built? Where can I see some footage of the construction process?
And finally, if you believe the heliocentric model of our world, then you DON’T believe the scriptural model of our world. The two are irreconcilable – and unfortunately, you’ve aligned yourself with the unscriptural one. What a shame.
T8: I would argue that a person cannot be totally truthful and be fully deceived.
Kinda takes the sting out of your “worldwide conspiracy involving millions of people” argument, huh? Does Trump know that space is fake? Or is he being totally truthful when he says Space Force is going to protect us from asteroids and aliens – because he truly believes these things? Does your friend’s dad know that Antarctica isn’t a continent? Or is he being totally truthful when he tells stories of going there – because he truly believes it’s a continent -even though in actuality he only visited a small piece of icy land that he was TOLD was a continent at the bottom of the ball earth? Do the thousands of brilliant scientists and engineers that work on various components for space satellites and rockets know that their products are actually floating around on balloons because there is no outer space? Or are they being totally truthful when they see some NASA CGI and proudly boast to their children and grandchildren that they played a part in building the cartoon they’re seeing on the TV screen?
Food for thought.
T8: Could it be that you are too stupid to reconcile scripture with increased knowledge prophesied for the end times? I don’t have a problem with scripture and the fact that the Earth is a globe. There is not one scripture that contradicts this.
Wow! Every honest scholar in the history of the world (most of them Christians themselves) will tell you point blank what the writers of scripture believed about our world – and that it clearly and explicitly contradicts the heliocentric model. They will hush it away by saying that the Bible wasn’t intended to be a science book… but they absolutely understand that the Bible’s account and the heliocentric model are completely irreconcilable. But since you make the suggestion that WE are too stupid to reconcile scripture and the heli model, perhaps you could post a few quotes from a world class scholar who believes like you… that there’s no contradiction.
In the meantime, perhaps you’d indulge me in a little experiment…
IF you were to take God making the sun stand still in the sky as the literal way it happened in Joshua (ie: the sun usually runs a circuit over the earth from one end of the heaven to the other, and God made it stop in its circuit) – would that scripture align with the heli model? YES or NO?
IF you were to take God setting the earth on foundation pillars so that it cannot be moved literally – would it align with the heli model? YES or NO?
IF you were to take the scriptures that speak of a firmament as hard as cast bronze, with waters above it literally – would it align with the heli model? YES or NO?
IF you were to take the scriptures that speak of God placing two lights – the sun and the moon – and all the stars IN the firmament literally – would it align with the heli model? YES or NO?
IF you were to take Jesus’ teaching that the stars will fall to the earth literally – would it align with the heli model? YES or NO?
IF you were to take God opening windows in the firmament to flood the earth with the waters above it literally – would it align with the heli model? YES or NO?
I anxiously await your direct and succinct answers… sans diversions.
D4T: Hey guys, why all the balloons?
I’m thrilled that Eddy not only had those thoughts when watching a video that had nothing to do with flat earth, but that he posted his thoughts here. I choose to believe that while only a couple of people currently comment on this thread, many more read it as a guilty pleasure – perhaps like a bad accident that they don’t want to see, but can’t look away from. 😉
And I’m pretty sure that this thought wouldn’t have even crossed Ed’s mind if you and I weren’t here doing what we’re doing. We’re planting seeds of Biblical truth, and I keep praying that Lightenup and miia the others who commented here at the beginning are still at least looking into the subject – even if they don’t yet realize the undeniable truth of it. Btw, I’ve gotten pm’s from two different people I don’t know who have told me they’ve been following this thread closely, and enjoying it.
Cheers, brother!
God in His infinite, pure, righteous and true nature…
The heavens declare His glory and since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities, His eternal power and divine nature, are clearly seen. Especially now that man has more technology and knowledge. The further we look the more we see God’s handiwork and eternal power. If we create a telescope to see further, God is there. He is beyond our understanding.
Those who say He doesn’t exist or that he exists but didn’t create a near infinite universe but a very finite snow globe are ignorant.
Give him glory for his eternal power and handiwork that only an eternal God could create. Stand up from whence you have fallen oh ignorant men who deny the eternal God.
Still waiting for that “overwhelming evidence”, Gene. I keep asking, and you keep going silent every time I ask. Hmm…
Satellites, rockets, video, photos, mathematics, 100% eclipse predictions based on heliocentric model, Antarctic travel, Southern Hemisphere distances, sunsets, sunrises, Auroras, air travel, etc.
Flat Earth has none of this proof. i can post 4k video of the globe earth, let’s see your 4k video of the flat disc.
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