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Mike…. There is tons of proof the earth is round. It’s hard for me to believe you haven’t seen this yet or have you?
Peace and love to you and yours. …..gene
T8, are you now saying that the earth curve calculator is a valid way to test the curve? I ask because we have a lot of proof that contradicts the globe and I was wondering why you didn’t comment on our evidence (mountains of evidence) when we did present it in the past.
Since you feel confident to use it as evidence I will now assume that you support this type of evidence. Good to know.
Ok, I’ll see your 39 miles and raise it to 90!
It’s a great video but if you want to watch just the last 3 minutes (12-15) it gets summed up pretty well.
Notice all of the massive areas where there is no curve at all! Like the state of Kansas! Where does the curve make all this up?
In 90 miles there is only less than 300 feet of elevation difference when ther should be over a mile, over a mile of curvature!
To all….why waste time looking at something that can be easely debuncked and has over and over and over, these FE, PEOPLE JUST SIMLPY IGNORE TRUTH WHEN PRESENTED, to them, because their mind are completely given over and by now are not capable of honest comparisons. Everything on the internet they producehas been dealt with. These conspiracy theorists have a mindset that carries them dowm that dark road so they are notable to see the light. They give creedence to no one but their own like minded thinkers. Sad but true.
Peace and love to you and yours. ….gene
To all….why waste time looking at something that can be easely debuncked and has over and over and over, these FE, PEOPLE JUST SIMLPY IGNORE TRUTH WHEN PRESENTED, to them, because their mind are completely given over, and by now are not capable of honest objective rational comparisons. Everything on the internet they produce has been dealt with honestly. These conspiracy theorists have a mindset that carries them dowm that dark road so they are not able to see thing objectively, They give creedence to no one but their own like minded thinkers. Sad but true.
Peace and love to you and yours. ….gene
DIG SAID: “T8, are you now saying that the earth curve calculator is a valid way to test the curve? I ask because we have a lot of proof that contradicts the globe and I was wondering why you didn’t comment on our evidence (mountains of evidence) when we did present it in the past. Since you feel confident to use it as evidence I will now assume that you support this type of evidence. Good to know.”
I have never said that earth curve calculators are wrong. I assume they are correct as they weren’t setup by Flat Earthers, so they would have no reason to fudge the numbers due to a lack of agenda. I have however noted that calculations are based on zero moisture in the atmosphere and many of these pics that are floated as evidence including mine have large bodies of water in the foreground.
As for what moisture is capable of, well I know that one degree difference 100 km away can amount to quite bit of area by the time the light reaches our eyes. Images are carried by light and light is capable of being bent, skewed, diffused, reflected, refracted, and reverted. The next paragraph is taken from Wikipedia.
Snell’s law, or the law of refraction is when light passes from one transparent medium to another, the rays are bent toward the surface normal if the speed of light is smaller in the second medium than in the first. … One part of the wave is reflected, and another part is refracted as it passes into the glass.
Of course, the only image I have refuted as evidence of a Flat Earth is mine because I know where the image was taken etc. In explaining that I mention refraction as a possible cause of seeing beyond the curve, but I have even more compelling evidence that explains it. But I guess you haven’t read it. I could repeat it for you if you want, but only if you promise to read it.
The guy in the video Dig says: “explain to me how I am missing the curvature of the Earth”.
That flat road in Australia is too long to notice a curve. Of course you see some undulation because that is within the scale that we can notice. And he should do well to note that the distance from the road to the centre of the Earth is about the same no matter where on the road you are, (if the road is indeed flat). The direction of gravity is not a universal force of up and down, rather it is in the direction toward the centre of large bodies.
T8: “I have never said that earth curve calculators are wrong. I assume they are correct as they weren’t setup by Flat Earthers, so they would have no reason to fudge the numbers due to a lack of agenda. I have however noted that calculations are based on zero moisture in the atmosphere and many of these pics that are floated as evidence including mine have large bodies of water in the foreground.”
In this case the curve is not based on sight but on elevation. It is difficult to see 90 miles!
When the curvature is associated with line of sight it is still difficult to accept that light can bend nearly a mile. Come on, it isn’t silly string!
Also, when examined in detail the distortions are in favor of the FE. I understand that you must believe that light can bend upwards and then downwards hundreds and hundreds of feet over a curve but you should realize that many people do not.
T8: “The guy in the video Dig says: “explain to me how I am missing the curvature of the Earth”.
That flat road in Australia is too long to notice a curve. Of course you see some undulation because that is within the scale that we can notice. And he should do well to note that the distance from the road to the centre of the Earth is about the same no matter where on the road you are, (if the road is indeed flat). The direction of gravity is not a universal force of up and down, rather it is in the direction toward the centre of large bodies.”
“Too long to long to notice a curve”? Wouldn’t the curve be more pronounced the longer the road is?
In 90 miles, according to the globe earth model there should be over a mile of curvature. There was only 270 feet! That is a huge discrepancy! You have said the math is legitimate. Where is the curve?
Are you suggesting that gravity is hiding the curve? That’s a new one if that’s the case. But hey, gravity has been used for every other anomaly that we can observe with our own senses so I guess it’s nothing new. But it is strange.
“Too long to long to notice a curve”? Wouldn’t the curve be more pronounced the longer the road is?
No.
In 90 miles, according to the globe earth model there should be over a mile of curvature. There was only 270 feet! That is a huge discrepancy! You have said the math is legitimate. Where is the curve?
Sorry, are you talking about the video? I only watched the last 3 or 4 minutes of it. The question doesn’t make sense to me. Not sure how much curvature there is, but it would be totally flat because the distance from any point in the road is the same distance to the centre of the Earth. And given the distance involved, you will not notice it. As for a drive up a mountain, that is different. The distance from all points in the road to the centre of the Earth will be different and the rise is on top of the curvature.
Are you suggesting that gravity is hiding the curve?
No. The distance is too great to notice and the distance between the road and the centre of the Earth is the same. Flat Earthers seem to think that going over the curve means you would be nearly upside down in Australia and you would notice the curve as you head down under. They also think that if you could somehow suspend yourself in midair and if the Earth was a globe that you could let the earth spin from under you. Whereas, in reality the atmosphere spins with the Earth. This concept would only work if you were suspended into space using a space elevator. However, you do not believe in outer-space.
Hi guys.
Does the guy in this video have a point?
He basically says the usual calculation for the Earth’s curvature is not accurate. It is an easy estimate for short distances only.
T8: “Sorry, are you talking about the video? I only watched the last 3 or 4 minutes of it. The question doesn’t make sense to me. Not sure how much curvature there is, but it would be totally flat because the distance from any point in the road is the same distance to the centre of the Earth. And given the distance involved, you will not notice it. As for a drive up a mountain, that is different. The distance from all points in the road to the centre of the Earth will be different and the rise is on top of the curvature.”
Did you use the curve calculator? Why not try that so that you can see for yourself the expected curve for 90 miles?
Are you suggesting that the surface of a ball will appear flat because all points are the same distance from the center? Really? I’m looking at a ball now and I see curve.
I’m just pointing out that the guy in the video I posted says that typical calculation for curvature is only good for short distances. Also, I am not sure if the calculators use this equation rather than the more complex accurate one. Did you watch the video? If not, then what I am saying won’t make sense.
The circumference of the Earth
DIG SAID: Are you suggesting that the surface of a ball will appear flat because all points are the same distance from the center? Really? I’m looking at a ball now and I see curve.
Let me point out the obvious: SCALE.
Now for a breakdown.
The circumference of a basketball is about 75 centimeters.
The circumference of the Earth is 40,075 km.This means the Earth circumference is 53,433,333 times bigger.
So if you shrunk by that much, then you would be way smaller than an atom atop that basketball, so yes, I would say the surface of a basketball would be flat if you were standing on it. But if you could travel in a tiny rocket away, eventually the basketball shape would slowly become obvious.
Does this help you grasp how big the Earth is and why we do not naturally see the curve?
Further, while I do not for one minute believe the Earth is flat, it is obvious God has given us a flat earth experience.
T8: …longer flights are considerably greater in number now and so not hard to accept many more high altitude planes are flying… That explains it perfectly. … We don’t need to resort to conspiracy theories for this one.
There are none so blind as those who refuse to see. The point isn’t the number of planes. The point is that since the 80’s, plane engines have been designed to leave no contrails at all. In normal conditions, if the plane is high enough, you can see a trail of water vapor that disappears as fast as it is formed… like the plane I highlighted for you in my video. There is no atmospheric condition that allows the exhaust from a plane to linger for hours and form clouds that last for days. These facts are attested by dozens of scientists and airline pilots and other officials who have testified in government hearings to get something done about chemtrails. All you have to do is open your eyes and look. Here’s 15 minutes of pilots, doctors and scientists testifying…
T8: “The circumference of a basketball is about 75 centimeters.
The circumference of the Earth is 40,075 km.”And both can be measured for their curvature. Which is exactly what the video with the 90 mile distance did. In that distance there should have been over 5,000 feet of curvature, nearly a mile! What was actually observed was 270 feet. How do you explain that? Added with the other massive areas without any significant curve how can you claim the earth is a sphere? The point being is that if that were true it would be able to be measured – and it isn’t.
And when you get around to it you can answer my question about the pillars of the earth? You say there are none but the Scripture says there are pillars.
I Sam 2:8 He raises the poor from the dust, He lifts the needy from the ash heap To make them sit with nobles,
And inherit a seat of honor; For the pillars of the earth are the Lord’s, And He set the world on them.
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