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Hi Anthony,
Jn 1.15
John testified about him and cried out
‘ This is he of whom I said
“He who comes after me has a higher rank than I, for he existed before me”
Jn 1.28
John answered them saying
’I baptise in water, but among you stands one whom you do not know.
It is he who comes after me, the thong of whose sandal I am not worthy to untie’
The next day he saw Jesus coming to him and said
”Behold the lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world! this was he on behalf of whom I said
’After me comes a man who has a higher rank than I for he existed before me’
I did not recognise him, but so that he might be manifested in Israel, I came baptising in water”
John testified saying
”I have seen the Spirit descend as a dove out of heaven, and He remained upon him.
I did not recognise him but He who sent me to baptise in water said to me
’He on whom you see the Spirit descending and remaining on him, this is the one who baptises in the Holy Spirit’
I myself have seen and have testified that this is the Son of God’
So John was a great prophet who saw with the eyes of the Spirit. He did not recognise this man, his younger cousin, using his physical eyes but with his spiritual eyes and ears he saw and heard the testimony of God about him and knew that he was the Son of God, filled with the Spirit of life from eternity.
Look deeper than flesh.
Hi Anthony,
If you must believe that a man preexisted then you do not accept the testimony of God about the anointing on this man.
You cannot yet hear the voice of the shepherd of the sheep.
Come out of her for such is antichrist.
So Gene you don’t believe that He was really before John ok God bless. And ilI’have to itthe Nick doesn’t either. You seem to can’t answee with a yes or no why? God bless
Jodi I haven’t forgot you. You have some big post o a ivI’ had alot to read, there are some parts that I agree with you and there are pars that I don’t. I should have it all together tomorrow. God bless
Hi Gene I’m not saying that the Lord Jesus Chris had a fleshly body. did He preexpre-with the Father why won’t you answer me yes or no? And why can’t you answer me that he was before John? Come on now I don’t want to know other scripture I want a yes or no. It seems to me your not sure about it all. yes or no Gene God bless.
Hi Anthony,
Why are you so stuck in the flesh?
Flesh contributes nothing.
The work of God is by His Holy Spirit in His chosen vessels.
The words of scripture focus, not on the flesh, but on the Spirit.
2cor 5.16
Therefore from now on we recognise no one according to the flesh, even though we have known Christ according to the flesh , yet we know him in this way no longer.
Hi guys Where did you guys get this teaching from. it surely wasn’t from the bible. cant you guy answer me with a yes or no. You always come back with other things why? Talk to me with plainness of word. Yes or No why won’t you answer me. It’s it because you maybe heaping coals upon your head. God bless.
Hi guys do you think that He Jesus was older then John like a man?because that’s what you think that He was just a man. John was from a priestly family that makes him a Levit and his mother was Mary’s cousin what do think about that. God bless.
Hi guys, do you think that He Jesus was older then John like a man?because that’s what you think that He was just a man. John was from a priestly family that makes him a Levit and his mother was Mary’s cousin what do think about that. God bless.
Hi Anthony, thanks for the update, and taking the time to read my long posts. I look forward to hearing what you have to say.
Hi Anthony,
The Spirit is from eternity.
Micah 5.2
But as for you Bethlehem Ephrathah, too little to be among the clans of Judah,
from you one will go forth for Me to be ruler in Israel.
His goings forth are from long ago, from the days of eternity.
A man from Bethlehem prophesied to be a vessel for the eternal Spirit.
Hi Anthony,
Why would you think that believing what scripture says about Jesus would heap coals on our head?
Is it safer to believe men?
Maybe it is you that God wants to rescue from the fire?
Anothny, what came out from the Father was the holy spirit, and that was the word, and it went into the ‘MAN” JESUS when he was baptized by John at the Jordan river, and that spirit he recieved from the Father is what taught him and raised him from the dead, the same thing applies to us, no difference.
Rom 8:11, …But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead, dwell in you, He (GOD) that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken (bring back to life) your mortal (dead) bodies by “HIS” SPIRIT, that dwells in you.
NO DIFFERENCE ANTHONY, SAME GOD, SAME SPIRIT, is what brought Jesus to life again from the dead, it does the same thing to us.
“ONE GOD”, IN ALL AND “THROUGH” ALL. WE DO NOT SEPERATE JESUS FROM OUR “EXACT” IDENITY WITH HIM BROTHER. As he is, so are we, is he a son of God, is God his father, so is he ours, is he a human being, so are we, did he come into his existence through the flesh, so did we.
Does it not say, “know you not that your body is the TEMPLE OF THE LIVING GOD.”
Did that answer you question Anthony?
Peace and love to you and yours. …….gene
Hi guys you just can’t answer me with a yes or no can you? Well God bless, In Him Anthony. I guess if you guys can’t give a straight answer like a yes or no there really not much I can talk to you about. So be it. I’ll pray for you.
Hi jodi. I haven’t for got you, I should have it all together in a day or two. had alot to read. had to go over some things, kind of a brushing up on some things. Your post are kind of long. God bless In Him Anthony.
Anthony. …”NO” he did not preexist his birth on this earth. He was only prophecied to be born, by the prophets. Hope that answered your question. I thought my answers perty well clearfied it, to you. Hard to give a yes or no some times without clearifying it with scriptures.
Peace and love to you and yours. ……gene
To All,
Jesus gives us understanding by what he meant by saying he came down from heaven by comparing himself to the manna that the Israelites ate in the wilderness.
Numbers 11: 9 And when the dew fell upon the camp in the night, the manna fell upon it
Dew on the ground is made through the atmosphere (heaven), when the dew came the manna was produced. When the Spirit of God from heaven came it begot Jesus at the river, now the bread of life came.
60 ..This is an hard saying; who can hear it? 61 When Jesus knew in himself that his disciples murmured at it, he said unto them, Doth this offend you? 62 What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before? 63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life. 64 But there are some of you that believe not.
Everyone relates the Son of man ascending where he was before as if it is referring to heaven. However, it is referring to him ascending from the dead back to a living man on earth. This is WHY Jesus tells us after this verse that it is the Spirit that made him ascend to life from the dead.
The manna is said to come from heaven, but it was produced upon the dew that comes by way of the atmosphere, likewise the bread of life Jesus, came from heaven, he was produced on the ground by the Spirit that came from heaven.
Thanks Gene for the straight answer.Thanks. Then thats a no then. k thank you. I know scriptures some what. Been studying them since I was inin twenty. After the military. God bless. Again thank you Gene. In Him Anthony
So He was just a man. He more then just a man Gene we can’t even come close to Him. We are sinners and He’s not. God bless. You may think you are on the same level as Him but you’re not.
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