- This topic has 3,676 replies, 33 voices, and was last updated 4 years, 7 months ago by
.
- Posts
Anthony the word is “with” God because it is something He can GIVE and did give.
In the beginning God’s WORD we know for a FACT was eternal life for humans, this was his whole purpose of creating humans, to bring them to ETERNAL LIFE.
Eternal Life is God’s WORD he had in the beginning, it is was WITH Him in His promise through the coming Jesus, and it Is Him as God is life.
The SON of MAN brings us eternal life, the MORTAL of flesh who bled on the cross, brought us eternal life having paid for our sins. This WORD was spoken to David. This is how it is said that the WORD became FLESH, eternal life dwelt among them IN THE MAN Jesus. Jesus came and spoke how one could obtain eternal life, and those were not his words but the LORD’s.
It is either ignorance, denial, or delusion for someone to READ the OT and the NT scriptures and think that Jesus could have possibly pre-existed as the WORD of the LORD.
The very fact that Jesus could NOT speak of himself but needed the WORDS from the LORD makes such an idea flat out stupid. We are suppose to believe that Jesus was the WORD in the OT, but then could not speak the WORD through himself, even though he was the WORD?? The prophets quote the WORD of the LORD receiving it from the LORD and in that WORD they speak of the coming Jesus of the seed of David. They quote the LORD speaking of a servant, a chosen one out of the people, who would follow the LORD’S will, and I am suppose to believe that this LORD was speaking of himself?? Pure ignorance, denial, or delusions.
Hi Jodi isn’t ‘that what the scripture said.
John 1:1 says, “(a) In the beginning was the Word, (b) and the Word was with [the] God, (c) and the Word was God.”
That this Divine Word is none other than Jesus Christ is shown by verse 14, “And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.” God bless
Hi Jodi . You must of miss this part in part one, or didn’t read it all.
Thus Jesus was with God in the beginning, but He is not “the” God the Father but God by inheritance and nature being the Son. He is God because He is the Son of God. It is that simple.
“Jesus is the only begotten
Yes Jodi that what He did (went to the cross for the sins of the world, reconciliation, it’s the plan through out the ages. He had to come to the world as a human Mary being His mother and God the Father as His Father. That’s why He is call the only begotten Son. I believe He was a Man on Earth I’m not deny His humanity, but I also believe that He is Divine.
I send a post telling you this apparently you didn’t read it.
It’s hard to have a conversation when people don’t read what you sent.
God bless Jodi
Hi Jodi
IS JESUS GOD? – PART 6
Is the Alpha and the Omega Christ or the Lord God almighty?
The confusion originates from Revelation 1:8 that even has theologians disagreeing with each other as they have missed something so simple. Please allow me to explain.
Note that the three phrases “the Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last” in Revelation 22:13 all mean the same thing. And so from Revelation 1:17-18 we know that the “first and the last” (Alpha and Omega) is Christ. “I am the first and the last: I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore.”
“Christ says, “I am the true witness. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
Hence the phrase “I am Alpha and Omega” at the beginning of Revelation 1:8 refers to Christ, but the remainder of this verse refers to the Father. How do we know?
To begin with, Revelation 1:4-5 has the following salutation. “Grace be unto you, and peace, from HIM WHICH IS, AND WHICH WAS, AND WHICH IS TO COME; … and from JESUS CHRIST,”
So this salutation is from the Father (which is, and which was, and which is to come) and His Son (and from Jesus Christ.)
So we know that the latter part of Revelation 1:8 which says “saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty” is referring to the Father while the phrase “I am the Alpha and the Omega,” is referring to Christ.
This is where many get confused as they so easily read this verse incorrectly. They either apply the entire verse to the Lord God almighty or they apply it entirely to Christ.
Not that it really makes much difference to the meaning of this verse and what I am explaining, but those who do their research will find that the NIV for once actually has the most accurate rendering of this verse. We find the phrase “the beginning and the ending” was added in the KJV (which is not incorrect) and the word “God” was left out which would have made this verse a little clearer but it should still be obvious to any good Bible student.
Adam Clarke’s Commentary in regards to the phrase “the beginning and the ending” says “This clause is wanting [missing] in almost every MS. and version of importance. It appears to have been added first as an explanatory note, and in process of time crept into the text. Griesbach has left it out of the text.”
And in regards to the phrase “saith the Lord,” Robert Jamieson, A. R. Fausset and David Brown Commentary says, “The oldest manuscripts read “the Lord God.”
And Albert Barnes’ Notes on the Bible says, “Or, saith God, according to what is now regarded as the correct reading.”
Compare the KJV and the NIV.
Revelation 1:8 KJV “I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.”
Revelation 1:8 NIV “I am the Alpha and the Omega, says the Lord God, who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.”Comparing the following verses also reveals that the “LORD GOD, WHO IS, AND WHO WAS, AND WHO IS TO COME, THE ALMIGHTY” refers to the Father beyond any doubt.
Revelation 1:4-5 “Grace be unto you, and peace, from HIM WHICH IS, AND WHICH WAS, AND WHICH IS TO COME [Father]; … and from JESUS CHRIST [Son],”
Revelation 4:8 “Holy, holy, holy, LORD GOD ALMIGHTY, WHICH WAS, AND IS, AND IS TO COME.”
Revelation 11:17 “We give you thanks, O LORD GOD ALMIGHTY, WHICH ARE, AND WERE, AND ARE TO COME;”
The expression “which is,” “which was,” “which is to come” indicates that the last clause (which is to come) is a substitute for the future tense of the verb and is the same as saying “which will be” which would have been less misunderstood. Because some have assumed that this clause refers to the second coming of Christ. But it does not fit the context or the meaning of this phrase. This reference to the Father refers to His eternal nature and is saying that the same One who now continually exists has always existed and will always exist. The Twentieth Century New Testament more accurately reads, “the Lord, the God who is, and who was, and who shall be,” Revelation 1:8
Now Revelation 1:8 can be read one of two ways and most are inclined to read it the wrong way which creates a contradiction of Scripture. This is why people either apply the entire verse to the Lord God almighty or they apply it entirely to Christ. When you read it with the correct understanding there is no contradiction of Scripture anymore. Revelation 1:8 is just one of those verses that lost its clear meaning when it was translated from Greek to English. Please allow me to paraphrase this verse and you should then be able to see how it is supposed to be read and understood.
Note that Jesus is actually speaking the entire verse and He is saying, “I am the Alpha and Omega, and my Father who is the Lord God, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty declares this.”
With this correct understanding you should now be able to read Revelation 1:8 without seeing any apparent contradiction.
Hi Jodi
Here is the original Greek text for (1b).
<em class=”blue”>και and <sup class=”green”>2532 <em class=”red”>CONJ</sup> <em class=”blue”>ο the <sup class=”green”>3588 <em class=”red”>T-NSM</sup><em class=”blue”>λογος Word <sup class=”green”>3056 <em class=”red”>N-NSM</sup> <em class=”blue”>ην was <sup class=”green”>2258 <em class=”red”>V-IXI-3S</sup> <em class=”blue”>προς with <sup class=”green”>4314 <em class=”red”>PREP</sup><em class=”blue”>τον the <sup class=”green”>3588 <em class=”red”>T-ASM</sup> <em class=”blue”>θεον God <sup class=”green”>2316<em class=”red”>N-ASM</sup>Hi Jodi you where saying in John1 the word “with”
The proper rendering of John 1:1 into English from the original Koine Greek text continues to be a source of vigorous debate among Bible translators, and especially the phrase the Word was God (c). The first verse of John’s Gospel says that God’s Son Christ Jesus, being referred to as the Word here, was with God in the beginning, (a+b). John 1:1b does not say that the Messiah is God but was with “the” God. It is important to note that the word “the” exists in the Greek text and was left out by translators as they probably thought it read wrong, but it is correct and has purpose. Here is the original Greek text for (1b).
και and 2532 CONJ ο the 3588 T-NSMλογος Word 3056 N-NSM ην was 2258 V-IXI-3S προς with 4314 PREPτον the 3588 T-ASM θεον God 2316N-ASMThe phrase “the God” identifies the one true God the Father in this verse and so the word “the” is important. While Jesus is called God in this verse, there is a clear distinction between Him and “the” God whom He was with. The God whom Jesus was with is “the” God the Father.
Hi Jodi
The words pre-exist or pre-existence are not found in the Bible. However, the meaning of these words are certainly applicable to Christ in regards to His incarnation. Here are four definitions from well-known dictionaries for the word pre-existence.
Merriam-Webster Definition:
“Existence in a former state or previous to something else;”Oxford Dictionaries:
“Exist at or from an earlier time than (something):”Cambridge Dictionary:
“To exist before something else:”From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia – Pre-existence of Christ:
Hi Jodi
. This whole idea of pre-existence is consistent with Scripture which continually reveals Christ to have existed before His incarnation and before all things were created.
All these verses and there are dozens more reveal that Jesus Christ pre-existed before His incarnation. But to be more precise, they reveal that He existed before all things were created or before the beginning. The question is, the beginning of what? It has to be the beginning of something as God had no beginning! The beginning of something is its origin.
Proverbs 8:22-30 “The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old. 23 I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was. 24When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water. 25Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth: 26While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world. 27 When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth: 28 When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep: 29 When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth: 30 Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him;”
Daniel 3:25 “Lo, I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire, and they have no hurt; and the form of the fourth is like the Son of God.”
Micah 5:2 “But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, though you are small among the clans of Judah, out of you will come for me one who will be ruler over Israel, whose origins are from of old, from ancient times.”
John 1:1-3 “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.”
John 3:17 “For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.”
John 8:58 NLT “Jesus answered, “The truth is, I existed before Abraham was even born!”
John 16:28 “I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father.”
John 17:5 “And now, O Father, glorify you me with thine own self with the glory which I had with you before the world was.”
John 17:24 “Father, I will that they also, whom you have given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which you have given me: for you lovedst me before the foundation of the world.”
Colossians 1:15-17 “Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: 16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: 17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.”
Hebrews 1:1-2 “God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spoke in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, 2 Has in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he has appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;”
Hebrews 1:10 “And, You, Lord, in the beginning have laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:”
1 John 4:9 “because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.”
Revelation 22:13 “I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.”
Hi Jodi
IS JESUS GOD? – PART 7
Do the Words “I AM” Mean Jesus is God?
This is based on John 8:58. But note that the words “I am” also mean “I exist.” Some claim that Christ was declaring Himself to be God in John 8:58 because He used the words “I am.” This is erroneously based on the words “I am” being a reference to Exodus 3:14. From this they draw the conclusion that Christ was alluding to a divine name and thereby telling the Jews that He was God. Trinitarians further try and support their claim by saying this is why the Jews picked up stones to kill Him. But this was due to many things Jesus just said that slowly brought them to anger. The final straw being Jesus claiming seniority over Abraham who they said was their father. So Jesus claimed greater authority than the patriarch and hence was also claiming to be greater than them.
The phrase “I am” in John 8:58 comes from two Greek words “egō” and “eimi.” The Strong’s Definitions are:
“egō : “I” (only expressed when emphatic): – I, me.”
“eimi: I exist (used only when emphatic): – am, have been, X it is I, was.”How would you expect Jesus to respond to this comment? “Then said the Jews unto him, You are not yet fifty years old, and have you seen Abraham?” John 8:57
Not knowing Jesus existed before Abraham, the Pharisees are saying how could you have seen Abraham because you are not yet 50 years old. Since the Greek words for “I am” also mean I exist or existed, what is the obvious translation and response from Christ who existed before Abraham?
“Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.” John 8:58
Or
“Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I existed.” John 8:58Both are valid translations and the majority of Bible translations agree with the last one in fact with good reason!
So “I exist”, “I have been” and “I was” are other possible translations which have all been used by various Bible translators for John 8:58 as well as elsewhere in the KJV. For example: ego eimi has been translated to “I was” in Luke 19:22 “You knewest that I WAS (ego eimi) an austere man,”
These words formed a phrase that was in very common use by Jews and Christians and in New Testament Scriptures in the first century. It was not the name of any deity, be it the God of the Bible or any other god. It was never understood by Jews or Christians as declaring one to be God. If it were understood that way, you can be certain that the Jews would have never applied it to themselves as they did so frequently! In the following examples Peter, Paul, Gabriel and Zacharias all said, “I am” (ego eimi). But none of them were claiming to be God.
Luke 1:18 “And Zacharias said unto the angel, Whereby shall I know this? for I AM (ego eimi) an old man,” Luke 1:19 “And the angel answering said unto him, I AM (ego eimi) Gabriel,” John 1:27 “He it is, who coming after me is preferred before me, whose shoe’s latchet I AM (ego eimi) not worthy to unloose.” Acts 10:21 “Then Peter went down to the men which were sent unto him from Cornelius; and said, Behold, I AM (ego eimi) he whom you seek:” Acts 21:39 “Paul said, I AM (ego eimi) a man which ama Jew of Tarsus,” And the blind man also identifies himself by saying, I am. John 9:9 “Some said, This is he: others said, He is like him: but he said, I AM (ego eimi) he.” None of the Jews saw this man as declaring himself to be God either.
Here are all the other verses where Jesus said ego eimi in the Gospels. Not one can be understood as Jesus claiming to be God. Matthew 24:5, Mark 13:6, Luke 21:8 “I am Christ”, John 8:24, 28, 13:19, 18:5, 6, 8, “I am he (Jesus),” Matthew 20:15 “I am good,” Matthew 28:20 “I am with you always,” Mark 14:62 “Jesus said I am (the Son of God),” Luke 22:27 “I am among you as one who serveth,” Luke 22:70 “You say that I am (the Son of God),” John 6:35, 48, 51 “I am the bread of life,” John 7:34, 12:26, 17:24, 14:3 “Where I am,” John 8:12 “I am the light of the world,” John 8:18 “I am the one that bear witness,” John 8:23 “I am from above,” and “I am not of this world,” John 10:7, 9 “I am the door,” John 10:11, 14 “I am the good shepherd,” John 11:25 “I am the resurrection,” John 14:6 “I am the way,” John 15:1, 5 “I am the true vine,” John 17:14, 16 “I am not of the world,” John 18:37 “Thou sayest that I am a king.”
At the end of Christ’s ministry when news of Him had spread far and wide, who did the Jews understand Christ to be saying He was and what was the charge they brought against Him?
Matthew 26:63 “the high priest answered and said unto him, I adjure you by the living God, that you tell us whether you be the Christ, the Son of God.” Matthew 27:40, 43 “If you be the Son of God, come down from the cross. 43 He trusted in God; let him deliver him now, if he will have him: for he said, I am the Son of God.” Mark 14:61 “Again the high priest asked him, and said unto him, Are you the Christ, the Son of the Blessed? 62 And Jesus said, I am [ego eimi]:” Mark 15:39 “when the centurion, which stood over against him, saw that he so cried out, and gave up the ghost, he said, Truly this man was the Son of God.” Luke 22:67, 70 “Are you the Christ? tell us. … 70 Then said they all, Are you then the Son of God? And he said unto them, You say that I am [ego eimi].” John 19:7 “The Jews answered him, We have a law, and by our law he ought to die, because he made himself the Son of God.”
Twice in the verses above Jesus responded, “I am” (ego eimi) and yet He was not saying He was God but confirming that He was the Son of God. The Jews clearly never understood Jesus to be declaring Himself God. The outrage would have been heard far and wide if He had. There is no record anywhere in the entire New Testament of anyone even asking Him if He was God. So how could the Jews have seen Him to be saying He was God in John 8:58?
It is also notable that the words “I AM THAT I AM” in Exodus 3:14 have been variously understood for centuries. The Vulgate translates it as “I am who am.” The Septuagint to “I am he who exists.” The Targum of Jonathan and the Jerusalem Targum paraphrase the words as “He who spake, and the world was; who spake, and all things existed.” The original words literally signify, “I will be what I will be.”
A comparison of Exodus 3:14 and John 8:58 using the Greek Old Testament the Septuagint, reveals that God said, “I am the being (ego eimi ho ohn),” and Jesus said, “Before Abraham was, I am (prin abraam genesthai ego eimi).” So the divine name is actually “The being (ho ohn)”, not “I am (ego eimi).” This is further proven by the end of Exodus 3:14 which says “The being (ho ohn) has sent me to you.” It does not say “I am (ego eimi) has sent me to you.” No matter how it is translated into English, “ho ohn” is not the same as “ego eimi.” So there is no connection between “I AM” in Exodus and “I am” in John. In no way does John 8:58 equate Jesus to God except by biased inference based on weak translation and bad grammar.
Below are a few examples of how John 8:58 should have been translated. There are in fact over forty translations that translated this correctly.
“The absolute truth is that I was in existence before Abraham was ever born!” — (The Living Bible)
“Jesus answered, before Abraham existed, I existed.” — (The Clarified New Testament)
“In truth I tell you,” replied Jesus, “before Abraham existed I was.” — (Twentieth Century New Testament)
“Jesus answered, “The truth is, I existed before Abraham was even born!” — (New Living Translation)
“Jesus said to them, I am telling the truth: I was alive before Abraham was born!” — (International Bible Translators) .God bless Jodi
Anthony….JODI…is presenting it perfectly to you ,but once a person has been indoctrinated into a false teaching it is almost impossible to bring them out of it. It would take a mircale from God for that to happen. Only those (FEW) who love truth does God bring out of the “mystery religion” that has infected all of fallen christendom. Your following the “wide” way of that leads to destruction, which many go in threat, as Jesus said.
By moving JESUS AWAY FROM HIS PURE HUMAN IDENITY, you are sharing in their destruction of the truth. Did not Jesus say plainly that the deception would be about who he is? “Many” shall come in my name saying i am, and shall (decieve) many. Yes the deception will be about who JESUS REALLY IS. You have bought into what the liers, (2 ths 2) , are saying, and therefore you are recieving of their plague of not knowing the truth. Sad state of afairs Anthony.
Peace and love to you and yours. ….gene
The word logos is used in the NT over 300 times,
The logos of the prophets say that the LORD will build again the tabernacle of David, and the logos of the prophets say that the LORD will bring forth a son of David to sit as an eternal King. KNOWN unto God are ALL his works from the beginning of the world. In the beginning of the world existed the promise of the coming Messiah who would be of the tribe of Judah and would free the Gentiles as well as Israel.
Acts 15: 15 And to this agree the words of the prophets; as it is written,16 After this I will return, and will build again the tabernacle of David, which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up: 17 That the residue of men might seek after the Lord, and all the Gentiles, upon whom my name is called, saith the Lord, who doeth all these things. 18 Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world. 19 Wherefore my sentence is, that we trouble not them, which from among the Gentiles are turned to God:
logos
Matthew 5:37 But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.
Matthew 7:24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:
John 14:24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father’s which sent me.
John 10:36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?
sanctified — Hagiazo
to render or acknowledge, or to be venerable or hallow
to separate from profane things and dedicate to God
consecrate things to God
dedicate people to God
to purify
to cleanse externally
to purify by expiation: free from the guilt of sin
to purify internally by renewing of the soulRomans 15:16 That I should be the minister of Jesus Christ to the Gentiles, ministering the gospel of God, that the offering up of the Gentiles might be acceptable, being sanctified by the Holy Ghost.
1 Corinthians 6:11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
Jesus was sanctified at his baptism and then he was SENT out unto the world.
Shortly after his baptism Jesus opens the book of Isaiah. Isaiah spoke the logos about a future Messiah to come and Jesus quotes the logos that was written of him. He quotes the logos because he at that time was the man in the flesh having already fulfilled some of the logos spoken by the prophets about him, and also because he was being sent out to fulfill the logos to complete the plan of God in it’s entirety, which God knew beforehand from the beginning of the world. As before He made the world God promised man eternal life. Eternal life is what the man Jesus received and he was appointed by God to give it to his brethren. As the prophets spoke the logos of the LORD, Jesus was fulfilling the logos of the LORD, and part of that fulfillment was for himself to speak the logos of the LORD like that of the prophets. Moses a prophet himself spoke the logos about Jesus as well, saying that one would come, a prophet like unto him, and the people would hear his logos. As God came down anointing Moses to speak the logos, God came down anointing Jesus to speak the logos.
The logos was that a savior from the tribe of Judah would come. The logos was that the LORD would anoint a man with His Spirit and send him out into the world to bring freedom. The logos was given to David, and David saw his son being raised from the dead. This logos became flesh when the LORD came down and anointed Jesus with His Spirit and then sent him out into the world.
KNOWN unto God are ALL HIS WORKS from the beginning of the world.
Romans 1:1 Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God, 2 (Which he had promised afore by his prophets in the holy scriptures,) 3 Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh; 4 And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:
Acts 2:22 Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know: 23 Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain: 24 Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it. 25 For David speaketh concerning him, I foresaw the Lord always before my face, for he is on my right hand, that I should not be moved: 26 Therefore did my heart rejoice, and my tongue was glad; moreover also my flesh shall rest in hope: 27 Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption. 28 Thou hast made known to me the ways of life; thou shalt make me full of joy with thy countenance. 29 Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day. 30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne; 31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption. 32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses. 33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear. 34 For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, 35 Until I make thy foes thy footstool. 36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
ACCORDING to the FLESH he would RAISE UP Christ to sit on his throne.
God would not allow the FLESH of Jesus to see corruption. People were witnesses to his GLORY, and man in the flesh with eternal life.
Anthony, don’t just read what Jodi wrote study it, don’t let what those who are decieved cause you to fail to.
Peace and love to you and yours. …..gene
Hi Anthony,
You are required to provide a link to material you cut and paste.
…and besides I don’t read the material of outside sources.(but I will watch a video of outside sources)
You need to put is in your own words,
then I will respond to YOUR words____________
God bless
Ed JHi Gene
You said By moving JESUS AWAY FROM HIS PURE HUMAN IDENITY
Gene apparently you haven’t been reading my posts because I believe in Jesus Christ humanity. What our notgettnot is thatI also believe in his Divinity. Gene when I get done I’ll show you how I belive in in His humanity. K. I have to go back and read what Jodi posted. God bless Gene.
I Edj
Well I don’t know what to say that’s how I belive.
I don’t send videos. I gusss don’t reply. God bless Ed j
Hi Ed j you said You are required to provide a link to material you cut and paste. Ilook at the terms and conditions. I didn’t find it. Where do I go find out this kind of info
God bless. Anthony
- You must be logged in to reply to this topic.
