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Hi T8,
So you are saying you can only find the truth in yourself and we should ignore what others say?
That does make sense for you, as your traditional roots are exposed.
No Nick. Not saying that. Have another guess.
Hi T8,
Your ongoing deep seated bitter antagonism and accusations against some here is the elephant in the room.
Can you never accept the views of others without such a reaction?
So you dish it out, but can’t handle it when it is served back?
You have been speaking to people in this manner for years including me, so that is how I dialogue with you now. Notice I don’t speak to others like that? Because they do not speak in that manner. But I do speak the truth of scripture to everyone. If people ignore scripture when I recite it, then I know those people are wrong because scripture is right.
And part of this feeling you have regarding being accused is me quoting scripture Nick.
Let me give you some of your own advice. Don’t shoot the messenger. Just to make it clear, I did not write the Bible.
If Bible verses give you a feeling of being acused, then my advice is you need to change, not scripture. That is my 2 cents worth anyway.
Hi LU,
So the Jesus that you say was brought forth and conceived in an ovum of Mary
was not a god or a man
but a gamete?
LU, Had you really and honestly read what we post and what JODI has posted producing scripture after scripture after scripture, of clearly written and sound scriptures, you could have easely seen what you are believing in is nothing more then a false trinitarian lie about JESUS AND WHO IS REALLY IS. You have and are, presenting a false JESUS, BUT NOW I KNOW YOU ARE TRULY INCAPABLE OF UNDERSTANDING THAT, Just as you were unabLe to understand JESUS WAS Not TELLING ANYONE TO TRULY HATE HIS, mother, brother, sister and himself, but was talking about their lives not them. You call me arogrant but when faced with the truth you become the real arogrant one it seems. Why can’t you admit the truth when you hear it, is it because you can’t bear to actually accept you could be wrong? Anyway that is the way it appears to me.
Peace and love to you and yours. …..gene
No Nick, not a gamete. The Son in spirit form was brought forth into Mary’s womb where He united with the flesh of a developing human being when Mary conceived.
Hi LU,
So the developing conceptus was united with another spirit, the Spirit of the Son, in the womb?
And what preexisted was not Jesus but the Spirit of the Son, the Word?
Hi LU,
You said, “Do you think that you can receiveth the Father apart from the Son?”
No I do not, because the purpose of the Son was to bring us to FAITH in God.
1 Peter 1:19 But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot: 20 Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you, 21 Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God.
1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, THE MAN Christ Jesus;
THE SON that brings us to God is the MAN that DIED on the cross LU. The Son that God had promised David’s seed that He would be a Father to. TRUE FAITH and TRUE HOPE is to believe that as the Son of Man was born of God becoming a child of God we too will be as Jesus and be born again of the Spirit, becoming perfected and given eternal life. Jesus is in fact the firstborn of dead humans.
Hebrews 11 speaks of Faith equated unto righteousness. The people listed that had faith in God were before Christ’s time but they believed they would be resurrected because they knew their sins would be forgiven through a coming Messiah.
No man however can be accounted as righteous in the manner that Jesus was accounted as righteous for he not only had faith in God, he also remained without sin. This was because, as according to I john 3, as a HUMAN you must be begotten by God in order to be without sin, and that he was.
As God had promised in the OT He would not give such glory but to one man. If we believe that God did in fact give unto David’s son His Spirit and become His Father through an anointing, we likewise will become children of God, as Jesus is only the firstfruits of God’s Spirit, there are to be brothers and sisters that follow. Abraham, Israel, David all saw the coming Messiah, they died in faith that of their seed all the nations would be blessed. This is exactly why we see in Revelation Jesus declaring that he is in fact the ONE of the GREAT PROMISE, Jesus declares that he is the ONE, the ROOT and OFFSPRING of DAVID of whom would inherit God’s promised eternal kingdom. Blessed be to God for giving this promise and then fulfilling it, so that in Jesus our faith and hope are in God.
Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
The image of the Son is,
Ephesians 4:13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
Hi Jodi,
Once again, none of those verses disprove the pre-existence of the Son as the eternal offspring part of God.
Hi Jodi,
Jesus did not sin before he was anointed with the Spirit.
He was cleansed by the word.
Jn 15.3
Yes Ed J, I would say that others are presenting a false Christ and thus a false gospel.
Hi Jodi,
Are you saying: “the Spirit of Christ” is not “Christ’s Spirit”?
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God bless
Ed JHi Ed,
Yes the Spirit of anointing is not the human spirit of the man Jesus.
The Spirit of Christ was in the prophets.
1 Peter.1.11
Edj…it’s all about who Jesus really, Jesus said the deception would be about who he is, “for many would come in my name saying i am, and “DECIEVE MANY”, you see the deception would be about him,…
Hi Gene,
The deception is about who ‘i am’ is
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God bless
Ed JHi LU,
Jesus is a man.
Jesus was conceived.
John was conceived in Elizabeth and he was conceived in Mary.
Mary is his mother as he was conceived of her just as any other man begins life by conception and none preexist.
Hi Nick,
You are creating a false narrative here:
No-one here is claiming Jesus’ flesh
or any one else’s preexisted either____________
God bless
Ed JHi Ed,
So the flesh did not preexist.
Man is flesh. Remember man that thou art dust…
So what you think preexisted was not a man.
And adding flesh to something does not make a man.
Jesus Christ is a man anointed by the Spirit of God at the Jordan.
Hi Ed,
Yes the Spirit of anointing is not the human spirit of the man Jesus.
Hi Nick,
Why is Jesus called “The Christ” if he is not “The Christ” ?
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God bless
Ed JHi Ed,
The Spirit of Christ was in the prophets.
1 Peter.1.11
Hi Nick,
We have been over this before: Micah 5:2
makes it clear that “the Spirit of Christ”
came from eternity to Bethlehem; not
to the Jordan river as you claim.____________
God bless
Ed J
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