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T8: The Holy Spirit came upon Mary.
Did the son come upon himself to reproduce himself in the flesh?
What strange teaching is this.
EDJ: Hi T8,
Yes, the spirit of Christ united with his father’s spirit at Jordan.
So the Holy Spirit that came upon Mary was the Father’s own spirit and the Spirit of Christ merged with the Holy Spirit to become the Holy Spirit?
Lightenup what Im saying is that before time was before the creation of anything Jesus was begotten of the Father Yahweh the Father had no beginning. the Son came out of the Father, and that’s when the Son began, He had everything because He is the Son of God the only begotten of the Father. First the Father ( no beginning) second His Son ( began when He came out of the Father (Yahweh) two not three the Holy Spirit is The Spirit of the Father. the Spirit of life or the Spirit of God (Yahweh) and the Son has the Spirit of life also. the only begotten Son,” and he is “in the bosom of the Father. “in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.” There is none other in the universe that stands related to God the Father as he does. The term firstborn does not in this case, at least, imply that others were born after him. It only shows his pre-eminence above all things, the Son can do nothing of Himself, but what He sees the Father do; for whatever He does, the Son also does in like manner. <span class=”woj”>For as the Father raises the dead and gives life to <i>them,</i></span> <span class=”woj”>even so the Son gives life to whom He will. The Son. I have come in My Father’s name, and you do not receive Me;God bless . I hope that clarify the way I see this.</span>
T8….Again you mis quoted scripture, “in the beginning was the word, the word was with God and “WAS” GOD.
Just as your word is with you and “IS” YOU. You and your word are one and the same thing. Jesus said ”
the words i am telling you (which was not his words) ARE SPIRIT AND LIFE.”T8….IF YOU BELIEVE Jesus is the word then you “must” also believe he is God. As i recall you did not believe jesus was a God, did you change your position?
Jodi has the right understanding here, IMO
Peace and love to you and yours. …..gene
Anthony if you are not a Trinitarian i apologize, i thought you were.
You ask me about the spirit, Jesus told us GOD IS SPIRIT, now when Jesus was baptized AT THE JORDAN RIVER, He recieved that Spirit of the Father, and became a spritual son of God the Father, God from that time actually dwelt “IN” him, like he can us also (know you not that your body “IS” the “temple” of God”., says Paul,
Remember when there can out of the mouth of Jesus these words, “DESTORY THIS TEMPLE AND IN THREE DAYS I (GOD) SHALL RAISE IT UP”. That was God the Father speaking directly through the mouth of Jesus. He considers human beings “Temples” he can dwell in. Even us Anthony the exact same as with jesus.
Peace and love to you and yours. ……gene
Hi T8,
No humans were not around, God and His POWERS were, and His word is Powerful and true, and we are told before He created Heaven and Earth His word was to bring eternal life to human beings. When he created Adam He already knew that Adam would disobey and become corruptible, and He already knew that by another man He would bring forth righteousness and a way to eternal life, incorruptible.
The IMAGE of God is incorruptible, when Jesus was raised from the dead being made incorruptible, He joined God in God’s incorruptible image. The image of God is likewise righteousness, and you have to be born of God’s Spirit to be righteous as it keeps you on God’s path and thus you are worthy of eternal life.
The way to God’s Kingdom, the way to eternal life for man, is to be born of God’s Spirit, as it keeps you from disobeying. By One MAN’s OBEDIENCE many are made righteous as their sins that were brought because of the first man’s disobedience are wiped away.
1 Colossians 1: 14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins: 15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
Psalms 89:27 Also I will make him my firstborn, higher than the kings of the earth. 28 My mercy will I keep for him for evermore, and my covenant shall stand fast with him. 29 His seed also will I make to endure for ever, and his throne as the days of heaven.
Do you see that T8, we have redemption through his blood, Jesus DIES but is raised incorruptible, and by this he is the image of the invisible God and is MADE the firstborn to a new beginning.
Colossians 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence. 19 For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell; 20 And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven
The Messiah is the man born of the seed of David, of whom God would be a Father to, because he would be born of God’s Spirit and keep him in righteousness. At the river, you say that a pre-existing Spirit entered Jesus, but God’s Spirit entered Jesus, and Jesus said he does nothing of himself but what the Father teaches him. The promise God gave to David is that he would anoint David’s seed with His Spirit, that anointing to a human is what the word Messiah or Christ means, not a pre-existing spirit.
Hi Gene. I don’t agree with you, that Jesus Christ was just a man. You believe what some people call Adoption, Jesus was adopted by God at Jordan river when he got baptized. I don’t God bless.
Anthony. …so was JESUS to a real human being, or was he just desguised as one? Decieving all humanity?
Did he actually come from the loins of King David, as scripture says he did or not?
Was your Jesus a God or not, if not then what was he?
Remember Anthony, who was the great deception going to be about, Jesus said, “many would come in my name, saying i am and (DECIEVE) “MANY”. Jesus know it was going to all about him, that the “MANY” would be decieved. IF YOU DO NOT SEE JESUS CORRECTLY, YOU SIMPLY DON’T SEE THE REAL JESUS, Think about it Anthony.
Peace and love to you and yours. …….gene
Anthony, i don’t think were adopted, nor was Jesus either, we spimple were given the holy spirit and thereby became Sons of the Living God. Elect yes, God chose to give us his spirit, the same with Jesus also, you are seeing it as all humanity is childern of different parents, but all people are the childern of God because all humanity came from God in the first place. All the earth and everything in it is his and came from him. There is no adoption involved in that, is there, seening we were all created in the image of God and by God in the first place.
Peace and love to you and yours. …..gene
Hi Gene,
To be given the Holy Spirit is no guarantee of Salvation.
It is those who are led by the Spirit who are the children of God.
The Spirit must be allowed to transform our minds unto the mind of Christ.
Test all things and hold fast to what is good. Some have made a shipwreck of their faith.
Hi Gene you ought to ready my posts. Then you would know your question. Gene you really should read what people are posting, just don’t glase at it and jumb on one thing with out reading all of the post. Why should I post things to you if your not going to read them Good bless
Hi Jodi,
Jn 3.13
No one has ascended into heaven, but he who descended from heaven, the son of man.
(speaking of the Spirit)
As Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness even so must the Son of man be lifted up,
( see and hear the Spirit)
so that whoever believes will in him have eternal life.
(eternal life in the Spirit follows the response in faith)
Hi Jodi,
Just as the bronze snake on a pole was only effective to heal the dying by faith in the power of God,
so also is the eternal life offered in Jesus Christ not from a man, but by faith in the power of God.
God was in him reconciling the world to Himself.
But when the fullness of time was come,God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law, to redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of son’s. And because ye are son’s,God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts crying, Abba, Father. It says “made of” Women, made under the law but i don’t see made of a man. And it says might receive the adoption of son’s. God bless. Anthony
Gene God bless.
1. God sent His Son
2. We receive adoption of son’s
3. The Son wasn’t made under a man. There you have it. Anthony
Anthony. ..The spirit “of” his son ,(IS) the Spirit, his son was Given at his baptizm at the Jordan river. WE ALSO RECIEVED THAT SAME SPIRIT that Jesus was given that made him the begotten son of God, which makes us also begotten of God to, just as the “MAN” JESUS WAS BEGOTTEN ALSO. BY THAT SAME SPIRIT.
The spirit of “Christ”, means “the spirit of the anointing”, look up the word CHRISTO’S, that is not meaning the spirit of Jesus the man, they are different, just like saying the spirit of Anthony, it is not the same as the spirit of THE CHRISTO’S. Trying to make it be the Spirit of the man Jesus is wrong, it is the spirit of God that Jesus was anointed with, that is the sprit of CHRISTO’S.
“ONE GOD IN (ALL) AND THROUGH (ALL), NOT ONE JESUS, IN ALL AND THROUGH ALL. All who have the anointing spirit of God in them are one, with Jesus and the Father, they are by that spirit in each other. We are in God by that same spirit that Jesus was given, as he is, so are we, we are being begotten by that same spirit that beget him.
Peace and love to you and yours. …..gene
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Anthony. …What spirit is at work in you that is trying so hard to make Jesus out to be something different them we are?, if he were different , could he call us brothers? while he is our master teacher, how does that make him different then the rest of humanity? IN fact i don’t recall you even saying who or what he is to you, and if you believe he preexisted his earth arivial, exactly who was he before his appearance on this earth? Could you enlighten us please?
Peace and love to you and yours. ……gene
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