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Nick…..who said perfect cast out the grace of GOD , i have not heard a single person say that. And by “GODLY FEAR” i assume you really mean, deep reverence and respect, which would be correct, why not just say that instead of using the English word fear when you know scripture does not mean that kind of fear. “FOR WE HAVE (NOT) RECEIVED THE SPIRIT OF (FEAR) BUT OF POWER AND OF A SOUND MIND.”
Adjust you thinking to what scripture really means NICK.love to yhou and yours………………..gene
Nick…….i don't preach against (GODLY RESPECT and REVERENCE at ALL) godly fear means reverence and respect, not your fear and trembling approach you draw from a scripture you don't even really understand . And all the while reject all the scriptures that show the opposite of what your preaching. And you should not teach fear monger religion either.
peace and love …………….gene
GB,
Spiritual knowledge is of what is of God, his Word.
Not empty philosophy and mockery of Scriptural truth.You pay lipservice to what is sacred.
Nick…..now how do you know that, when you talk and don't even understand the simplest of scriptures. You have no idea of what i or anyone else pays to GOD word, you only can filter what we say through your ignorance of the sum of Scriptures on any given subject, lacking understanding is from those who are lip servicing scripture. Knowledge without understanding is just stupidity NICK.
Pro 4:5 Get wisdom, get understanding: forget it not neither decline from the words of my mouth.
Pro 4:7…> Wisdom is the principle thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get UNDERSTANDING.
Pro 16:16.> How much better is it to get wisdom than gold! and to get understanding rather then chosen silver.
love and peace to you……………………gene
GB,
More lipservice fronm one who says satan and the pit cannot exist because nobody has seen them.
Did you not know our life is about an invisible God and things not seen?
Where is your faith?Nick…..another misrepresentation of what i said, don't you ever get tired of doing that Nick, if you can't quote some one accurately , don't you know that is the same as Lying Nick. I thought you believed in GOD , remember He said to not bear FALSE WITNESS, Please show us where i said what you said i said. I think the only one here paying lip service is YOU brother. And far as i am concerned your in (NO) position to inquire of MY FAITH AT ALL> epically if you can't even tell the truth about what a person say.
love and peace…………………….gene
Hi,
Wait patiently and our Saviour will come.
Isaiah 66:5-75Hear the word of the LORD, ye that tremble at his word; Your brethren that hated you, that cast you out for my name's sake, said, Let the LORD be glorified: but he shall appear to your joy, and they shall be ashamed.
6A voice of noise from the city, a voice from the temple, a voice of the LORD that rendereth recompence to his enemies.
7Before she travailed, she brought forth; before her pain came, she was delivered of a man child.
To all ………> All who have not the Spirit of God, fear and tremble they have received a Spirit of fear and trembling, But you brother have (NOT RECEIVED A SPIRIT OF FEAR, BUT OF POWER AND A SOUND MIND. People in the old testament were under the law of fear and trembling and those who still have not the spirit are the same. They need it to keep their CARNAL natures under control , having not the spirit of God in them. But true love CASTS out FEAR as Scripture SAYS> These are (NOT being made perfect in love) “for nothing is perfected in fear” . They are simple clouds without water putting on a religious front but void of the spirit and are unable to comprehend the things of GOD. Eyes to see but see not, ears to hear but hear not.
Peace and love …………………gene
To all………Truth is truth no matter where it comes from it is (NOT) confined to Just scripture as paranoid fear mongers would like you to believe, ” for the Spirit both defends us and accuses us”, we have a guide within us and we are able to understand who and what agrees with scripture. The carnal mind cannot savior the things of God and being compressed because of fear in it, is only able to parrot scriptures that it doesn't even understand. Their fear paranoia inhibits them and cause to accuse other who are not inhibited by their paranoias , they use terms as “world teachers”, “wisdom of the world” and etc, they are unable to think out side the box they live in, and position themselves as above others as overseers of the truth which they neither know or understand, Just parrots in a cage of fear. who never grow in grace and understanding , being confined by there own fears within them. Chatty Kathie's who contribute nothing to growth in their own lives nor others either foaming out accusations and insults unable perceive the things of God, void of Spirit.
But you brethren have not come to that mountain to fear and tremble as (they have). But unto that city whose builder and maker is GOD.
“You have (NOT) received a Spirit of FEAR, but of POWER and of a SOUND MIND”. They are not set free, but are held by the chain of fear and trembling which inhibits their growth. Faithless wonders whose end is the same fear they foam out on others. Not understanding (NOTHING IS PERFECTED IN FEAR) for fear has torment, Just as scripture says. Neither is the love of GOD in them or they would (not cast (IN) FEAR) but would be casting it (OUT). Fear mongers will have their part in the Fiery Judgments of God. Because they have changed the Love of God , into the fear of Man, they portray a GOD of LOVE as a GOD of FEAR and DREAD , therefore its only fitting that God will deal with them even as they portray Him, God has told us How to view Him (the Lord bless you and keep you, make His face to shine on you and be GRACIOUS to you , lift up His countenance on YOU and GIVE YOU PEACE, and said if you put my name out this way i then will bless them. How we see the FATHER is VERY important to What we will recieve from Him. Remember the servant with the one talent who buried it because He feared , His fear mongering mind was unable to be of any profit and the way He envisioned His master was a lie also.love and peace to you all………………………gene
Hi ,
So the freedom we are granted is not license.We remain servants of God and His Lord and even one another.
Galatians 5:13
For you were called to freedom, brethren; only do not turn your freedom into an opportunity for the flesh, but through love serve one another.1 Peter 2:16
Act as free men, and do not use your freedom as a covering for evil, but use it as bondslaves of God.Hi,
Rom11
21For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.22Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.
Nick…….Remember it also say GOD is able to graft them in again, lets not forget that part brother. Let keep hope alive for all Nick, as servants of the Gospel of GOD, lets be ministers of Hope brother.
love and peace to you and yours……………………………..gene
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 31 2009,01:01) Hi,
Rom11
21For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.22Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.
Nick, I find the way you leave out important scriptures in order to perpetuate fear, to be a little creepy.Romans 11:22 Therefore consider the goodness and severity of God: on those who fell, severity; but toward you, goodness, if you continue in His goodness. Otherwise you also will be cut off. 23 And they also, if they do not continue in unbelief, will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again. 24 For if you were cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and were grafted contrary to nature into a cultivated olive tree, how much more will these, who are natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree? 25 For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in. 26 And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written: “The Deliverer will come out of Zion, And He will turn away ungodliness from Jacob; 27 For this is My covenant with them, When I take away their sins.” 28 Concerning the gospel they are enemies for your sake, but concerning the election they are beloved for the sake of the fathers. 29 For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable. 30 For as you were once disobedient to God, yet have now obtained mercy through their disobedience, 31 even so these also have now been disobedient, that through the mercy shown you they also may obtain mercy. 32 For God has committed them all to disobedience, that He might have mercy on all.
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Nick, you had said and asked, “ Hi Jodi,
You say
“Here are the FACTS do not deny them.
1.) God desires ALL to be saved.
True.
Then you say
2.) When God puts His Spirit in man, man becomes obedient.When will God do this?”
He doesn't put His Spirit in unprepared vessels.“
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So if God does not put his Spirit in unprepared vessels, then shouldn't it then be obvious given the facts, that His plan is to prepare ALL vessels for His Spirit?The final judgment is the final end of man's ways, when the elements of the world are burned up and there are no more idolaters, murderers, thieves..etc.. Given the facts, it is man's sinful ways that are forever destroyed, but not the persons themselves. Sinners are brought to shame, they are brought to understand the truth. The feeling of shame is the beginning of remorse and repentance. The destruction in the fire is not people themselves but the type of people they use to be.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 31 2009,10:15) GB,
Hope comes from obedience, obedience to what is written
Hope DOES NOT come from obedience it comes from the knowledge of the truth, and the truth being that God will save all because He will give His Spirit to all. The truth is that God's Spirit makes man righteous, Jesus Christ is our proof of this. The truth is God desires all to be saved, therefore our hope our faith our trust is in knowing that God promises us His Spirit too.Hi Jodi,
You say
“The final judgment is the final end of man's ways, when the elements of the world are burned up and there are no more idolaters, murderers, thieves..etc.. “
True.
They have been cast into the fire.
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