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[Wakeup]

Very good answer Kerwin.
And God also has given us his intruction book,that
we can follow or ignore.

So with Adam,but there was no book in those days,and adam was just a junior in life experience.

So his instruction was very simple; Dont touch that one tree.,but he ignored it.
The result is total chaos,and God had to destroy all his creation and start over.

It is still the same today;we dont follow his instruction fully,but partly. Evil will soon take over what is left.
And we will have a total falling away.

Therefore this world will again be destroyed by fire.
The key is to follow that book,so we can be invited in to that arc; called Jesus,and be saved.

wakeup.

[mikeboll64]

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 08 2013,12:05)

God desires to gather mankind under his wings but mankind is not willing, Luke 13:34.

It was Jesus who said the words of Luke 13:34.

[kerwin]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 09 2013,05:30)

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 08 2013,12:05) God desires to gather mankind under his wings but mankind is not willing, Luke 13:34. It was Jesus who said the words of Luke 13:34.

Mike,

He did as you say and he was explicitly speaking of Jerusalem, never the less it is true of the Whole World.

[Ed J]

Quote (t8 @ Dec. 20 2012,19:50)

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 13 2012,05:12) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 12 2012,16:12) Quote (Mikel @ Dec. 12 2012,12:06) Oh, and when the Word became flesh, whose glory did he have? Hi Mike, The same glory(77) that we too will get when “The Word” is birthed in us. These next few verses should help put the pieces together as I see them. the glory as of the only begotten of the Father (John 1:14) com- pared with the glory which shall be revealed in us. (Romans 8:18) The Word of the oath, which was since the law, maketh the Son, who is consecrated for evermore. (Hebrews 7:28) 1Pet.1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by “The Word” of God, which liveth and abideth for ever. Of his own will begat he us with “The Word” of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures. (James 1:18) God bless Ed J EDJ……….Well put brother,  For indeed the Spirit of God and his words are one and the same. Jesus said the “words' i am telling you “ARE” Spirit and are LIFE he also said those words weren't his words. Indeed God and his word are one and the same thing they are Spirit Life, that abides “IN” Jesus and can also abide in Us. When that happens we are all united as one< one God in all and through all Just as it says. peace and love to you and yours………………………….gene We can all agree that truth comes from God. Yet Jesus said, I am the truth. So maybe he was saying that he was that attribute personified. Why can't the Word of God also be an attribute and a person. Or wisdom for that matter. We will be given a new name. Names from God's perspective are words or titles that describe who we are. Jesus also changed people's names to reflect that which they would be. 1) Arguing that Jesus is not the truth because truth comes from God and Jesus is not God would be as erroneous as saying that Jesus was not the Word of God. 2) And again, if the sword of the Spirit is the Word of God, and the Spirit is also the Word of God, then why do we need the sword again?

Hi T8,

1) Jesus said he was “the truth”, he never said he was The Word;  (so a moot point)
but he did say that the words he spoke were the father's, …………… (John 12:48-50)
and he did say the words he spoke were “SPIRIT”. ……………………… (ref. John 6:63)

2) Remember T8, “The Word” is sharper than any two-edged sword.  (ref. Heb 4:12)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Wakeup]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 09 2013,17:14)

Quote (t8 @ Dec. 20 2012,19:50) Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 13 2012,05:12) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 12 2012,16:12) Quote (Mikel @ Dec. 12 2012,12:06) Oh, and when the Word became flesh, whose glory did he have? Hi Mike, The same glory(77) that we too will get when “The Word” is birthed in us. These next few verses should help put the pieces together as I see them. the glory as of the only begotten of the Father (John 1:14) com- pared with the glory which shall be revealed in us. (Romans 8:18) The Word of the oath, which was since the law, maketh the Son, who is consecrated for evermore. (Hebrews 7:28) 1Pet.1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by “The Word” of God, which liveth and abideth for ever. Of his own will begat he us with “The Word” of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures. (James 1:18) God bless Ed J EDJ……….Well put brother,  For indeed the Spirit of God and his words are one and the same. Jesus said the “words' i am telling you “ARE” Spirit and are LIFE he also said those words weren't his words. Indeed God and his word are one and the same thing they are Spirit Life, that abides “IN” Jesus and can also abide in Us. When that happens we are all united as one< one God in all and through all Just as it says. peace and love to you and yours………………………….gene We can all agree that truth comes from God. Yet Jesus said, I am the truth. So maybe he was saying that he was that attribute personified. Why can't the Word of God also be an attribute and a person. Or wisdom for that matter. We will be given a new name. Names from God's perspective are words or titles that describe who we are. Jesus also changed people's names to reflect that which they would be. 1) Arguing that Jesus is not the truth because truth comes from God and Jesus is not God would be as erroneous as saying that Jesus was not the Word of God. 2) And again, if the sword of the Spirit is the Word of God, and the Spirit is also the Word of God, then why do we need the sword again? Hi T8, 1) Jesus said he was “the truth”, he never said he was The Word;  (so a moot point) but he did say that the words he spoke were the father's, …………… (John 12:48-50) and he did say the words he spoke were “SPIRIT”. ……………………… (ref. John 6:63) 2) Remember T8, “The Word” is sharper than any two-edged sword.  (ref. Heb 4:12) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Edj.

Every *WORD* that comes out of the mouth of God is *TRUTH*

Where there is the word there is truth.

wakeup.

[Ed J]

Hi Wakeup,

There is truth also outside “The Word”.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Wakeup]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 09 2013,21:33)

Hi Wakeup, There is truth also outside “The Word”. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

EDj.

That is new to me.

wakeup.

[Wakeup]

IN THE UNIVERSE,THERE IS TRUTH.
PART TRUTH; AND UNTRUTH.

ALL TRUTH COMES FROM GOD.
PART TRUTH COMES FROM THE DEVIL, TO DECEIVE.
UNTRUTH ALSO COMES FROM THE DEVIL,TO CONTRADICTS TRUTH, ALSO TO DECEIVE,LIKE HE DID IN THE GARDEN.

IF ONE DISPLAYS TRUTH,HIS WORD COMES FROM GOD.
IF ONE DISPLAYS UNTRUTH,HIS WORD COMES FROM THE DEVIL, HIS FATHER.
PARTLY TRUTH ALSO COMES FROM THE DEVIL TO DECEIVE. WOLF IN SHEEPS CLOTHING,SPEAKING GOD,BUT NOT IN TRUTH.

THE DEVIL IS THE FATHER OF LIES.

wakeup.

[Ed J]

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 10 2013,03:31)

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 09 2013,21:33) Hi Wakeup, There is truth also outside “The Word”. God bless Ed J EDj. That is new to me. wakeup.

Hi Wakeup,

Science is NOT 'The Word” now is it?
Is there truth in Science?   …I say “yes”   …what say you?

Keep in mind I didn't say all Science is truth,
so don't try to twist my words into implying
something I never said (as is your habit).

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 10 2013,04:00)

IN THE UNIVERSE,THERE IS TRUTH. PART TRUTH; AND UNTRUTH. ALL TRUTH COMES FROM GOD. PART TRUTH COMES FROM THE DEVIL, TO DECEIVE. UNTRUTH ALSO COMES FROM THE DEVIL,TO CONTRADICTS TRUTH, ALSO TO DECEIVE,LIKE HE DID IN THE GARDEN. IF ONE DISPLAYS TRUTH,HIS WORD COMES FROM GOD. IF ONE DISPLAYS UNTRUTH,HIS WORD COMES FROM THE DEVIL, HIS FATHER. PARTLY TRUTH ALSO COMES FROM THE DEVIL TO DECEIVE. WOLF IN SHEEPS CLOTHING,SPEAKING GOD,BUT NOT IN TRUTH. THE DEVIL IS THE FATHER OF LIES. wakeup.

You love giving “Speeches”, don't you?
It would be nice if had that same zeal
to answer all of our questions to you.

[Wakeup]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 10 2013,04:01)

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 10 2013,03:31) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 09 2013,21:33) Hi Wakeup, There is truth also outside “The Word”. God bless Ed J EDj. That is new to me. wakeup. Hi Wakeup, Science is NOT 'The Word” now is it? Is there truth in Science?   …I say “yes”   …what say you? Keep in mind I didn't say all Science is truth, so don't try to twist my words into implying something I never said (as is your habit). God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

EdJ.

What is science but the study of nature itself.
Gods wisdom is in nature,and if one speaks the truth in science he speaks truth of Gods wisdom in nature.

wakeup.

[Ed J]

Hi Wakeup,

Is that a “Yes” then or a “No”?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Wakeup]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 10 2013,04:34)

Hi Wakeup, Is that a “Yes” then or a “No”? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

EdJ.

What is it with you?

If the science is correct; yes it is the truth.

wakeup.

[Ed J]

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 10 2013,05:02)

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 10 2013,04:34) Hi Wakeup, Is that a “Yes” then or a “No”? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org EdJ. What is it with you? If the science is correct; yes it is the truth. wakeup.

Is there truth in Science? …I say “yes” …what say you?

[GeneBalthrop]

EDJ and /wakeup…………Your both right. Your saying the same thing but just saying it differently . IMO

peace and love to you both…………………………………………………gene

[kerwin]

Ed J and Wakeup,

I am with Gene on this one.

I am unsure what point you are trying to make Ed J.

I do know God laid down the laws of Science and man seeks to discover them.

I also know that Satan uses the truth to deceive.

I do not see either of you disagreeing with those two pieces of knowledge.

[Wakeup]

The spiritual universe,(realm) consists of good and evil.
These two must exist.

If there was no evil ,how can we know what is good,and vice versa.

So evil is used to proof, that there is good.
Once God is finished with evil; once evil has done his job.
Evil will be discarded; and evil will only exist in our understanding.

Not in our works. Evil will only be in our experience.
And good will be in our works,and experience.

wakeup.

[Ed J]

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 10 2013,12:14)

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 10 2013,08:29) EDJ and /wakeup…………Your both right. Your saying the same thing but just saying it differently . IMO peace and love to you both…………………………………………………gene Ed J and Wakeup, I am with Gene on this one. I am unsure what point you are trying to make Ed J.   I do know God laid down the laws of Science and man seeks to discover them. I also know that Satan uses the truth to deceive. I do not see either of you disagreeing with those two pieces of knowledge.

Hi Gene and Kerwin,

In case you haven't realized this yet,
Wakeup likes to argue his perspective.
I'm glad you both see right through me!

Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Wakeup]

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 10 2013,12:14)

Ed J and Wakeup, I am with Gene on this one. I am unsure what point you are trying to make Ed J.   I do know God laid down the laws of Science and man seeks to discover them. I also know that Satan uses the truth to deceive. I do not see either of you disagreeing with those two pieces of knowledge.

Kerin.

You must have realised by now that there is no good in satan. There is no truth in untruth.

wakeup.

[Ed J]

Hi Wakeup,

A lie must contain a certain amount of truth for the deception to work.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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