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Hi Charles,
The FLESH profiteth nothing[jn6]
The kingdom of God is not of eating and drinking..[Rom14]
The catholic church has imprisoned millions by the thought that their bread and wine gives salvation.No eat and drink the WORD
Quote (kerwin @ May 08 2012,18:43) Charles; Quote How therefore one can conclude that it is symbolic, since He emphasized it. The food and drink satisfy those that hunger and thirst to be righteous as God is righteous.
That is not literally flesh and blood but it is receiving and living by the Spirit through faith in Jesus Anointed.
Quote The kingdom of God is not of eating and drinking..[Rom14]
Romans 14.6
He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks. 7For none of us liveth to himself, and no man dieth to himself. 8For whether we live, we live unto the Lord; and whether we die, we die unto the Lord: whether we live therefore, or die, we are the Lord's. 9For to this end Christ both died, and rose, and revived, that he might be Lord both of the dead and living.23 And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever is not of faith is sin.
Nick,
Paul made it clear that whatever we do we must do it for the lord,but he made it clear also that if somebody, OBVIOUS IS NOT A BELIEVER, and whatever he does he doesn't do it for the Lord, he couldn't be judged by a believer.
Read again.
10 But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.
Paul himself in Romans concluded that if a believer EAT WITHOUT FAITH, AND DOUBT HE WOULD BE DAMNED,AND ALSO EATING SIN.
DO YOU KNOW WHAT IS HE REFERRING TO???
ISN'T HE REFERRING THAT WHOEVER EATS MUST EAT IN THE NAME OF THE LORD,THROUGH FAITH,IF ONE IS A BELIEVER.
SO HE MADE IT CLEAR TO THE BELIEVERS ONLY,THAT IF SOMEONE IS IN DOUBT,AND HE EAT, HE WILL BE CONDEMNED.
WITH THE SAME ARGUMENT A BELIEVER IN FULL FAITH DEFINITELY WOULD RECEIVE THE SPIRITUAL SANCTIFIED GRACE
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THEREFORE THE FOOD AND DRINK AND WHATEVER WE DO DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE IF ONE TOTALLY BELIEVES IN JESUS.NOW READ JOHN 6:26:
John 6:26Jesus answered them and said, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Ye seek me, not because ye saw the miracles, but because ye did eat of the loaves, and were filled.Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath God the Father sealed. 28Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? 29Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.
Jesus made it clear that they are following him only because
THEY DID EAT OF THE LOAVES .
WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT TO BE AWARE THAT HE IS REFERRING TO THE FOOD CONSUMED IN HIS NAME.
H e also made it clear that they must labour (work) not for the meat(food) that perishes,but for the work which endures for eternity.
Isn't it the SPIRIT which endures for eternity.
And if it is through work which through it we acquire food, ISN'T CLEAR THAT HE MEANT THAT WHEN WE WORK,AND EAT WE DO SO IN THE NAME OF THE LORD IN FULL FAITH WITHOUT A SINGLE DOUBT OTHERWISE WE WILL BE CONDEMNED.
PEACE AND LOVE IN JESUS
CHARLES
Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 09 2012,20:07) Hi Charles,
“ALL FOOD AND DRINKS, as long as it is CONSUMED IN HIS NAME FOR HIS MEMORY OF THE REDEMPTION FROM SATAN’S SPIRIT. IT WOULD BE HIS REAL SPIRITUAL BODY HIDDEN IN THE FOOD.”1Cor 8.8
Quote ALL FOOD AND DRINKS, as long as it is CONSUMED IN HIS NAME FOR HIS MEMORY OF THE REDEMPTION FROM SATAN’S SPIRIT. IT WOULD BE HIS REAL SPIRITUAL BODY HIDDEN IN THE FOOD.”
1 Corinthians8:1NOW concerning those things that are sacrificed to idols, we know that we all have knowledge. Knowledge puffeth up; but charity edifieth. 2 And if any man think that he knoweth any thing, he hath not yet known as he ought to know. 3 But if any love God, the same is known by him.
4 But as for the meats that are sacrificed to idols, we know that an idol is nothing in the world, and that there is no God but one. 5 For although there be that are called gods, either in heaven or on earth (for there be gods many, and lords many); 6 Yet to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we unto him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
7 But there is not knowledge in every one. For some until this present, with conscience of the idol: eat as a thing sacrificed to an idol, and their conscience, being weak, is defiled 8 But meat doth not commend us to God. For neither, if we eat, shall we have the more; nor, if we eat not, shall we have the less.9 But take heed lest perhaps this your liberty become a stumbling block to the weak. 10 For if a man see him that hath knowledge sit at meat in the idol's temple, shall not his conscience, being weak, be emboldened to eat those things which are sacrificed to idols11 And through thy knowledge shall the weak brother perish, for whom Christ hath died ? 12 Now when you sin thus against the brethren, and wound their weak conscience, you sin against Christ. 13 Wherefore, if meat scandalize my brother, I will never eat flesh, lest I should scandalize my brother. ?Nick,
THE CONTEXT IS ABOUT THE FOOD SACRIFICED TO IDOLS.
It is clear that Paul was referring to a radical belief which must be terminated completely. This belief was the food which was offered to idols in the temple, and also to those believers that are still within their conscience practicing this puffed up belief which would only corrupt their FAITH IN CHRIST. Even if the food is not sacrificed in the temple. NOTICE eat as a thing sacrificed to an idol, So only through corrupted belief they were doing so, and these were suppose to be believers and are aware that they shouldn’t do this.
If according to Paul it is an evil thing to sacrifice food to idols, what would one receive if the food is offered to JESUS in full faith.
Now read:
2 And if any man think that he knoweth any thing, he hath not yet known as he ought to know. 3 But if any love God, the same is known by him.
So it is clear that if all those who eat food which is offered to idols where doing so because they considered themselves well aware in their belief, in reality they know nothing. BUT IF SOMEONE REALLY LOVES GOD,GOD HIMSELF WOULD KNOW SO.
But meat doth not commend us to God. For neither, if we eat, shall we have the more; nor, if we eat not, shall we have the less.
Above, is a clear reference only to the food sacrificed to idols. NOT TO THE FOOD WHICH IS CONSUMED IN THE NAME OF JESUS.
NOW READ HEREUNDER AND REFLECT:
For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, That the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread: 24And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me. 25After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me. 26For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come.
27Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord. 28But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup. 29For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body. 30For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep. 31For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged. 32But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world.
33Wherefore, my brethren, when ye come together to eat, tarry one for another. 34And if any man hunger, let him eat at home; that ye come not together unto condemnation. And the rest will I set in order when I come.
FROM THE ABOVE I ONLY EMPHASIZE ON THESE SENTECES:
27Wherefore whosoever shall EATH THIS BREAD, AND DRINK THIS CUP OF THE LORD, UNWORTHILY,shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord. 28But let a man EXAMINE HIMSELF, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup. 29For he that EATHET AND DRINKET UNWORTHILY, EATHET AND DRINKET DAMNATION TO HIMSELF, not discerning the Lord's body.
NOW IT IS UP TO YOU TO ANALYZE ALL THESE SCRIPTURES IN ORDER NOT TO BE DAMNED
PEACE AND LOVE IN JESUS
CHARLES
Quote (kerwin @ May 08 2012,18:43) Charles; Quote How therefore one can conclude that it is symbolic, since He emphasized it. The food and drink satisfy those that hunger and thirst to be righteous as God is righteous.
That is not literally flesh and blood but it is receiving and living by the Spirit through faith in Jesus Anointed.
Quote That is not literally flesh and blood but it is receiving and living by the Spirit through faith in Jesus Anointed. Kerwin,
NOT JUST FAITH, JESUS SANCTIFIED THE ENTIRE WORLD THROUGHOUT IN HIS SPIRIT,SINCE THE WORLD IS HIS SPIRITUAL SUBSTANCE TRANSFORMED INTO MATTER. THIS SUPERSUBSTANCIAL MATTER WOULD NEVER DIE. THIS ENTIRE WORLD WOULD EVENTUALLY BECOME ALL SPIRITUAL, THROUGH THE UNIFICATION OF OUR SOULS. THE SOUL IS A MICROCOSM OF THE UNIVERSE,SINCE IT IS THROUGH CREATION THAT THE SOUL WAS CREATED,THEREFORE EACH SOUL MAINTAINS THE ACTUAL RESPECTIVE IMAGES WHICH IT TRAVELLED IN ORDER TO BE ESTABLISHED.
And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
Isn't it clear enough that, since the entire creation is Jesus' Spirit transformed into matter , HE SHOULD LOSE NOTHING, BUT SHOULD RAISE IT UP AGAIN AT THE LAST DAY???
NOW:
READ JOHN 6:26:29
John 6:26Jesus answered them and said, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Ye seek me, not because ye saw the miracles, but because ye DID EAT OF THE LOAVES, and WERE FILLED. Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath God the Father sealed. 28Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? 29Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.
NOTICE: DID EAT OF THE LOAVES, and WERE FILLED.
Jesus made it clear that they are following him only because
THEY DID EAT OF THE LOAVES, SO NOTHING SPRITUAL,EXCEPT THAT AS LONG AS THEY BELIEVE IN HIM, THE SPIRIT OF JESUS, WHICH IS THE BREAD ITSELF,SINCE ALL CREATED BY HIS SPIRITUAL SUBSTANCE TRANSFORMED INTO MATTER IN CREATION,WOULD SANCTIFY THE BREAD AND BECOME THE MYSTICAL BODY,THROUGH FAITH,SINCE IT IS HIS SPIRITUAL BODY INVISIBLE,ONLY FOR THOSE WHO BELIEVE WITHOUT A SINGLE DOUBT.
WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT TO BE AWARE THAT HE IS REFERRING TO THE FOOD CONSUMED IN HIS NAME.
H e also made it clear that they must labour (work) not for the meat(food) that perishes, but for the work which endures for eternity.
Isn't it the SPIRIT which endures for eternity, ONLY IF A PERSON BELIEVES IN JESUS,AND IF NOT IT PERISHES.
And if it is through work, which we acquire food, ISN'T IT CLEAR THAT HE MEANT THAT WE MUST WORK, EAT , AND WE DO SO IN THE NAME OF THE LORD IN FULL FAITH WITHOUT A SINGLE DOUBT OTHERWISE WE WILL BE CONDEMNED.
Mark 16:16 He that BELIEVETH and is baptized shall be saved; but he that BELIEVETH not shall be damned. 17And these signs shall follow them that believe; IN MY NAME shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; 18They shall take up serpents; and if they DRINK any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
SO IF ONE DRINKS AND EAT POISINOUS FOOD HE WILL NOT BE HURT.THEREFORE SANCTIFIED IN GRACE.
AND IF ONE DRINKS AND EAT GOOD FOOD HE WOULD BE SANCTIFIED IN GRACE EVEN MORE.SINCE IT IS CONSUMED REGULARLY
Now read and reflect on hereunder, what happened to the world through Adam sin:
cursed is the ground for thy sake;
So from Adam onwards, humans simply worked, and through it, the actual earth became spiritually evil through the evil energy TRANSFERRED FROM Adam, and it produced contaminated food, so humans and all became even more evil. THORNS A THISTLES SHALL IT BRINGS FORTH TO YOU. Humans therefore on their own, eventually became worse every day simply IN THE SWEAT OF YOUR FACE SHALL YOU EAT BREAD TILL YOU RETURN TO THE EARTH. So they lived hundreds of years old, worked, got sweated throughout, got worse, terrorized, and waited for that day and time to die, and Satan himself grabbed them, as his procedure, and took them straight to hell . FOR DUST YOU ARE AND INTO DUST YOU SHALL RETURN.
All that because Satan’s spirit entered the soul of Adam, and possessed it till Jesus came, and eliminated him once and for all.
Deuteronomy 27:5And there shalt thou build an altar unto the LORD thy God, an altar of stones: thou shalt not lift up any iron tool upon them.
As you can read God himself never let them using any tools for His altar, in order to prevent evil energy to be transferred onto the altar.
So if through Satan’s spirit in the entire world, it became cursed, through Jesus’ Spirit, it became SANCTIFIED IN GRACE. Full of grace through His Spirit.
BECAUSE THE FIRST ADAM WAS A LIVING SOUL.
AND THE SECOND ADAM WAS A LIFE GIVING SPIRIT, AND HIS SPIRIT IS UNIQUE. HE WILL BAPTIZE YOU WITH THE SPIRIT,AND FIRE. SO AS SOON AS WE RECEIVE JESUS’ SPIRIT THROUGH FAITH, HE WILL BURN THE EVIL SPIRIT WITHIN US ACCORDINGLY.
SO DON’T DOUBT OR ELSE YOU WOULD BE CONDEMNED
Genesis 3: And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;
18Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field;
19In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.
PEACE AND LOVE IN JESUS
CHARLESQuote (Nick Hassan @ May 22 2012,05:54) Hi Charles,
So damnation is according to your false derivations?Quote So damnation is according to your false derivations?
Nick,
OK FAIR ENOUGH, IF YOU DON'T AGREE, BUT IS THAT ALL YOU HAD TO SAY.WHAT ARE YOUR TRUE DERIVATIONS???
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Carmel;
Matthew 5:6
King James Version (KJV)
6 Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.And
Ephesians 4:24
King James Version (KJV)24 And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.
And
John 6:56
King James Version (KJV)56 He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.
Quote (Elizabeth @ Mar. 02 2010,10:45) To partake of the bread and wine was to be a memorial of the night before Christ died; a memorial is held once a year on that day it had occurred.
For the RCC to make the “Eucharist” the actual body, and the wine the actual blood of Christ, is in fact the abomination Daniel spoke of in Chapter 9:27; why is it the abomination?Hbr 10:10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
Col 2:13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;Christs sacrifice cleansed us from all of our sins.
Hbr 10:18 Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.
No more offering, no more sacrifices are needed, or necessarily; so why does the RCC say you have to confess your sins to a man, and then partake of the “sacrifice” for you sins? it is pagan.
Georg
Georg……………Good post right on brother. Jesus paid for our sins once and for all it is a done deal brother.peace to you and Irene……………………………gene
Quote Matthew 5:6 King James Version (KJV)
6 Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.And
Ephesians 4:24
King James Version (KJV)24 And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.
And
John 6:56
King James Version (KJV)56 He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.
Quote Matthew 5:6
[Quote]Carmel;Kerwin,
All these are in my post in different and more specified.
It is your part to reflect upon, otherwise,WITH EVERY RESPECT you simply be like a PARROT
King James Version (KJV)
6 Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.THE TRUTH THAT JESUS' SPIRIT IS THE ENTIRE CREATION TRANSFORMED INTO MATTER. THE SUPERSUBSTANTIAL GENERAL MATTER AND WHO BELIEVE SO:
THEY SHALL BE FILLED WITH REAL SPIRITUAL FOOD FOR THE NOURISHING OF THE SOUL IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN, WHAT THE SOUL ITSELF WORKED THROUGH JESUS' SPIRIT WITH THE POWER OF THE HOLY SPIRIT FROM THE FATHER,THROUGHOUT THE CREATION PHASE,THEREFORE IT WOULD BE RAISED ON THE LAST DAY AS PART OF THE NEW WORLD, JERUSALEM, ALL SPIRITUAL FOR ETERNITY.
And
Ephesians 4:24
King James Version (KJV)24 And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness. THIS IS JESUS,AND WE HAVE TO IMITATE HIM TO THE LEAST DETAIL.TO BE PERFECT IN HIM.
And
John 6:56
King James Version (KJV)56 He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.
John 6:26Jesus answered them and said, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Ye seek me, not because ye saw the miracles, but because ye DID EAT OF THE LOAVES, and WERE FILLED. Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath God the Father sealed. 28Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? 29Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.
NOTICE: DID EAT OF THE LOAVES, and WERE FILLED.
Jesus made it clear that they are following him only because
THEY DID EAT OF THE LOAVES, SO NOTHING SPRITUAL,EXCEPT THAT AS LONG AS THEY BELIEVE IN HIM, THE SPIRIT OF JESUS, WHICH IS THE BREAD ITSELF,SINCE ALL CREATED BY HIS SPIRITUAL SUBSTANCE TRANSFORMED INTO MATTER IN CREATION,WOULD SANCTIFY THE BREAD AND BECOME THE MYSTICAL BODY,THROUGH FAITH,SINCE IT IS HIS SPIRITUAL BODY INVISIBLE,ONLY FOR THOSE WHO BELIEVE WITHOUT A SINGLE DOUBT.
WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT TO BE AWARE THAT HE IS REFERRING TO THE FOOD CONSUMED IN HIS NAME.
H e also made it clear that they must labour (work) not for the meat(food) that perishes, but for the work which endures for eternity.
Isn't it the SPIRIT which endures for eternity, ONLY IF A PERSON BELIEVES IN JESUS,AND IF NOT IT PERISHES.
And if it is through work, which we acquire food, ISN'T IT CLEAR THAT HE MEANT THAT WE MUST WORK, EAT , AND WE DO SO IN THE NAME OF THE LORD IN FULL FAITH WITHOUT A SINGLE DOUBT OTHERWISE WE WILL BE CONDEMNED.
Mark 16:16 He that BELIEVETH and is baptized shall be saved; but he that BELIEVETH not shall be damned. 17And these signs shall follow them that believe; IN MY NAME shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; 18They shall take up serpents; and if they DRINK any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
SO IF ONE DRINKS AND EAT POISINOUS FOOD HE WILL NOT BE HURT.THEREFORE SANCTIFIED IN GRACE.
AND IF ONE DRINKS AND EAT GOOD FOOD HE WOULD BE SANCTIFIED IN GRACE EVEN MORE.SINCE IT IS CONSUMED REGULARLY
PEACE AND LOVE IN JESUS
CHARLES
CHARLES;
The only thing that will satisfy those that hunger and thirst for righteousness is to put on the new man, white robe, that is created like God in true righteousness and holiness. Even food and drink created by God through Jesus will not fill their hunger and thirst; not will food transformed into the blood and flesh of Jesus.
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