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Hi,
For those who would study this unique if bizarre view of scripture.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eucharist
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eucharistic_adoration
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/05572c.htm
http://www.ewtn.com/faith/teachings/euchmenu.htm
http://www.liturgy.co.nz/celebratingeucharist/book.html
http://www.christusrex.org/www1/CDHN/euch1.htmlJn6
63It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.Hi CA,
You think receiving bread and wine saves you?
Does it also save the paedophiles and warmongers and torturers who plague your history?To partake of the bread and wine was to be a memorial of the night before Christ died; a memorial is held once a year on that day it had occurred.
For the RCC to make the “Eucharist” the actual body, and the wine the actual blood of Christ, is in fact the abomination Daniel spoke of in Chapter 9:27; why is it the abomination?Hbr 10:10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
Col 2:13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;Christs sacrifice cleansed us from all of our sins.
Hbr 10:18 Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.
No more offering, no more sacrifices are needed, or necessarily; so why does the RCC say you have to confess your sins to a man, and then partake of the “sacrifice” for you sins? it is pagan.
Georg
Hi ,
Even if what Jesus said about the bread and wine being his body and blood was literally true why would partaking of his tent change anyone into Jesus??We are body, soul and spirit so what of the more important soul and the spirit of Jesus??
But as a memorial it is a wonderful reminder of the unity we can have with him and each other.
Hi,
They also put the bread into a flashy container called a monstrance and the 'priest' holds it high and folk kneel before it and pray to it as if it was their God.It is very convenient to teach you have GOD in your building and you are the arbiter of grace as such information leads many to be controlled and manipulated by you.
To all
Any one interested in Roman Catholic teaching, should click on here; if you are a Catholic, you might want to avoid it.
http://www.biblelight.net/shots-i.htm
http://www.angelfire.com/journal2/adrianbiblestudents/PAPACY.html
http://dappledphotos.blogspot.com/2005/09/papal-tiara.html
http://historical.benabraham.com/html/mayan_serpent_sun_god.htmlThis alone is a ton of information, and there is still more.
Georg
Hi,
When Jesus shared the bread and the wine with his brothers he was celebrating with them their unity with him and what that promises.
Joined with the body in baptism and eternal life in his Spirit.
Reborn of water and the Spirit.Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 02 2010,11:42) Hi ,
Even if what Jesus said about the bread and wine being his body and blood was literally true why would partaking of his tent change anyone into Jesus??We are body, soul and spirit so what of the more important soul and the spirit of Jesus??
But as a memorial it is a wonderful reminder of the unity we can have with him and each other.
We are body/soul and spirit/mind.
We were commanded to partake of the bread and wine to remember his death, doing so should unite us.Georg
Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 19 2010,16:57) Hi,
When Jesus shared the bread and the wine with his brothers he was celebrating with them their unity with him and what that promises.
Joined with the body in baptism and eternal life in his Spirit.
Reborn of water and the Spirit.
The last supper was the introduction of the “new covenant”, and the doing away of the old.
Knowing that Jesus was about to die; I doubt the apostles were “celebrating”.Georg
Hi,
The teaching that the body of Jesus must be consumed at the false church communions for men to be saved is the most popular deception.
My words are spirit and life.To All………..The word EAT and DRINK Jesus used are symbolic words that simply means to take to ones self , nothing more then that, we are to each take to ourselves the sacrifice of Jesus body and His Life's blood and apply that sacrifice for each of us individually and understand he gave himself as a sacrifice to God for our sins so we could be forgiven he is our kinsmen Redeemer.
peace and love to you all…………………………………………….gene
Hi GB,
How do you” TAKE TO ONE'S SELF “what Jesus has done?Is this what Jesus meant when he said you must be born of water and the Spirit to enter the kingdom?
Sound s like something men invented as a substitute
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ April 16 2012,03:27) To All………..The word EAT and DRINK Jesus used are symbolic words that simply means to take to ones self , nothing more then that, we are to each take to ourselves the sacrifice of Jesus body and His Life's blood and apply that sacrifice for each of us individually and understand he gave himself as a sacrifice to God for our sins so we could be forgiven he is our kinsmen Redeemer. peace and love to you all…………………………………………….gene
Quote The word EAT and DRINK Jesus used are symbolic words Gene,
Read, and reflect these scriptures and you will realize that it is not that simple to conclude and say it is mere symbolic.
55 For my flesh is meat(FOOD) indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.
26Jesus answered them and said, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Ye seek me, not because ye saw the miracles, but because ye did eat of the loaves, and were filled. 27Labour not for the meat (FOOD)which perisheth, but for that meat (FOOD)which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath God the Father sealed. 28Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? 29Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, THAT YE BELIEVE IN HIM WHOM HE HATH SENT.
FIRST notice the word MEAT it is meant to be FOOD according to Strong's Greek 1035. brósis.
Above 6:55 it says: MY FLESH IS FOOD INDEED,AND MY BLOOD IS DRINK INDEED.
How therefore one can conclude that it is symbolic, since He emphasized it.
Also I reflected on these scriptures:
ALL THINGS were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
Colossians 1: 15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: 16For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: 17And he is before all things, and BY HIM ALL THINGS CONSIST. 19For it pleased the Father that in him should all fullness dwell; 20And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him TO RECONCILE ALL THINGS UNTO HIMSELF; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.
So since according to the above Jesus' Spirit was DEFINITELY transformed into MATTER, in order to be ,
THE FIRST BORN OF EVERY CREATURE, IN THE EVOLUTION
TO BE BORN A MAN LIKE US EXCEPT WITH SIN,
AND TO RECONCILE THE ENTIRE CREATION ONTO HIMSELF THROUGH HIS DEATH FOR THE FATHER,
ALSO : BY HIM ALL THINGS CONSIST.
IT IS NOT CLEAR ENOUGH THAT ALL THESE DETAILS MAKE US AWARE THAT THE ENTIRE CREATION IS ACTUALLY HIS BODY,WHEN IT WAS ORIGINATED THROUGH HIS SPIRIT.
Also one SHOULD reflect that this world was entirely possessed by Satan's Spirit ,for the simple reason that when Adam sinned Satan’s Spirit entered Adam’s Soul.
Jesus came purposely to remove Satan's Spirit throughout our creation, that’s why HE GAVE THANKS FOR THE SIMPLE REASON THAT FROM THEN ON HIS SPIRIT WOULD BE MANIFESTED IN OUR CREATION. don't you think that the statement He made in the last supper :
This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me.
HE MEANT that through His death he will eliminate Satan’s spirit from nature and His Spirit would become manifested and will draw all things to myself
John 12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all things to myself
ALL FOOD AND DRINKS, as long as it is CONSUMED IN HIS NAME FOR HIS MEMORY OF THE REDEMPTION FROM SATAN’S SPIRIT. IT WOULD BE HIS REAL SPIRITUAL BODY HIDDEN IN THE FOOD.THE PROPER FOOD FOR THE SOUL TO BE NOURISHED. SO THE FOOD CONTAINS BOTH NOURISHMENT FOR THE FLESH,AND FOR THE SOUL,WHERE BEFORE IT WAS NOT POSSIBLE SINCE THERE WAS SATAN’S SPIRIT.
THIS IS CONFIRMED BY JESUS WHEN HE SAID TO SATAN THAT MAN DOES NOT LIVE ON BREAD ALONE BUT FROM EVERY WORD (SPIRIT) WHICH COMES OUT FROM THE MOUTH OF GOD.
SO THE BREAD CONTAINS ALSO THE WORD OF GOD THEREFORE THE SPIRIT.
luke 22:19 And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me. 20Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you
Now reflect on John 6:27
27Labour not for the meat (FOOD)which perisheth, but for that meat (FOOD)which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath God the Father sealed.
He Said LABOUR NOT FOR THE FOOD THAT PERISHES,BUT THAT WHICH ENDURES FOR EVER , He definitely meant His spiritual food which is hidden in the FOOD itself SINCE ALL WAS CREATED THROUGH HIS SPIRIT. AND ALL WE HAVE TO DO BELIEVE IN HIM LIKE HE SAID IN JOHN 6:29:
29Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, THAT YE BELIEVE IN HIM WHOM HE HATH SENT.
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 08 2012,06:06) Hi Charles,
Mystery babylon.Quote Hi Charles,
Mystery babylon.Nick,
I have every respect for your inteligence.
THANKS
PEACE AND LOVE IN JESUS
CHARLES
Charles;
Quote How therefore one can conclude that it is symbolic, since He emphasized it. The food and drink satisfy those that hunger and thirst to be righteous as God is righteous.
That is not literally flesh and blood but it is receiving and living by the Spirit through faith in Jesus Anointed.
Nick….> You ask how do you take to yourself what Christ has done, The words “EAT” and “DRINK” are used symbolically in scriptures. Jesus was not saying we need to literally physically “eat” his flesh and “DRINK” His Blood , these are symbolic term that simply means to take to our selves His sacrifice for our sins. We do this by “RECEIVING” or “ACCEPTING” his sacrifice and applying it ourselves INDIVIDUALLY. Just the way we drink water or eat food we are “receiving” it “INTO OURSELVES “INDIVIDUALLY”. Same with Jesus sacrifice it must be “RECEIVED” into us individually> This should not be difficult for you Nick to understand Brother.
As far as Genesis goes God used this symbolic term for eating also, it still means to take to ones self. Why because that is what one does when he or she eats or drinks, you are taking something into yourself. And the word TREE means to Produce for ones self. why becasue that is what a tree doe sit produces fruit from it self. When Adam and EVE “ATE” or took to themselves from the TREE or that which produces from Self the Knowledge of Good and evil , that meant they had to experience both good and evil good brings life and evil brings death and eating or taking good and evil to themselves they had to experience it also, so they experience life (good) and death (Evil). it was by taking it to themselves that brought this all on.
Life it self is much like a tree , therefore it says make the “tree” (that which produced from self) good and it's fruit good or make the Tree (that which produces from self) corrupt and its fruit corrupt. For every Tree shall be Know by it's fruit it produces so it is with us all.
peace and love to you all…………………………………………………………gene
Hi GB,
Eat and drink of the WORD expressed from the mouth of Jesus.
Those Words are spirit and life.Hi GB,
WE can know of the sacrifice of Jesus
but it does not relate to us till be are born into him and he is born into us.
[Gal3.Gal4]Folk still prefer the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil to the tree of life.
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