Emmanuel

[SimplyForgiven]

pierre,
you do know that he was speaking to the king of tyre right?
Jesus says the devil was a murderer from the beggining, how is that so? sooo was Jesus lying?

[Pastry]

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Irene, Lucifer was a master piece of God. He was on the mountain of God. He was responsible from earth and its degraded angels. But he protested with God and wanted to be the founder of evil creatures,as a challenge to God to make Him start His kingdom from the opposite direction.From the bottom of filth up. God sent him to earth to do so ,but to do so he was separated from his soul and became Satan. When time was good for God He picked the most mature devilish creature and transformed him into Adam and became a living soul. But the soul was Lucifer's since he was the person to cause all this, but Satan remained in the centre of the earth up to now. Still hoping to acquire a being to abide within,but definitely not through woman,most probably through cloning. Back to top Profile PM MAIL

Charles!  You have a really good imagination….

God never created Anything that was bad…..Lucifer was a beautiful Archangel… And He wanted to sit on Gods Throne and be like the most High God…. That is when He was cast down to earth….. Adam was not Lucifer or ever became Lucifer…Lucifer  became Satan when iniquity was found in him…..
I gave you all the Scriptures to proof it….Irene

[terraricca]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Aug. 23 2011,13:59)

pierre, you do know that he was speaking to the king of tyre right? Jesus says the devil was a murderer from the beggining, how is that so? sooo was Jesus lying?

sf

Christ was true and spook the truth,but he was talking of man 's beginning ,

Pierre

[csaliba]

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 11 2011,04:16)

Charles Jn 18:37 “You are a king, then!” said Pilate. Jesus answered, “You are right in saying I am a king. In fact, for this reason I was born, and for this I came into the world, to testify to the truth. Everyone on the side of truth listens to me.” Jn 18:38 “What is truth?” Pilate asked could you answer that question ,Charles ?? Pierre

Pierre,

Read:

John 14:15   If you love me, keep my commandments

Who's commandments.??

Which commandments??

Luke1:16 And he shall convert many of the children of Israel to the Lord their God.

17 And he shall go before him in the spirit and
power of Elias; that he may turn the hearts of the fathers unto the children, and the incredulous to the wisdom of the just, to prepare unto the Lord a perfect people.

Titus 2:9 God our Saviour in all things:

John 5:39Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me(

Who is The Lord their God, in Luke 1:16

to whom is the reference “he shall go before him.Luke 1:17 ?”

Who is our saviour.  in Titus 2:9??

If the scriptures testify of Jesus, then all hereunder is a proof that Jesus is God! No??

Who is omnipotent (all powerful)?1 Chronicles 29:11Philippians 3:20-21
Who is omniscient (all knowing)?1 John 3:20Colossians 2:2-3
Who is omnipresent (present everywhere)?Proverbs 15:32 Corinthians 2:14
Who is Lord of Sabbath?Genesis 2:3Matthew 12:8
Who is the great “I am?”Exodus 3:14John 8:58
Who is the only creator?Isaiah 44:24John 1:3
Who is the only savior?Isaiah 43:11, 45:21Acts 4:12
Who will judge mankind?Isaiah 3:13, 142 Corinthians 5:10 John 5:22
Who will judge between the sheep and goats?Ezekiel 34:17Matthew 25:31-33
Who sent the prophets?Jeremiah 7:25Matthew 23:34
Who resurrected Jesus?Acts 4:10John 10:17-18
Who is “coming in glory?”Isaiah 40:5Matthew 24:30
Who is our Father?Isaiah 63:16Isaiah 9:6
Who is the “first and last?”Isaiah 44:6Revelation 1:17
Who is Rock of salvation?2 Samuel 22:321 Corinthians 10:4
Who is Stone of stumbling?Isaiah 8:13-151 Peter 2:8
“One crying in the wilderness” came to prepare a way for whom?Isaiah 40:3Matthew 3:3
Who is eternal?Genesis 21:33Micah 5:2
Who is the fountain of living waters?Jeremiah 17:13John 4:10-14
Who resurrects the dead?Acts 26:8John 6:40
Who gives rewards to man?Isaiah 40:10Matthew 16:27
Who has all authority and power?1 Chronicles 29:11Matthew 28:18
Who gives power and authority to man?Psalm 68:35Luke 9:1
Who forgives sin?2 Chronicles 7:14Matthew 9:6
Who sent the Holy Spirit?John 14:16John 16:7
Who has the greatest name?Nehemiah 9:5Philippians 2:9
Whom are we to worship?Exodus 34:14Revelation 5:12-13
Who is the good Shepherd?Genesis 48:15John 10:14
Who searches for the lost sheep of Israel?Ezekiel 34:11Matthew 15:24
Who is “Lord of Lords?”Deuteronomy 10:17Revelation 17:14
To whom shall every knee bow?Isaiah 45:22-23Philippians 2:10
Who is the righteous branch of David?Jeremiah 23:5-6Jeremiah 33:15
Who alone is Holy?1 Samuel 2:2Acts 3:14
Whose blood cleanses us?Acts 20:281 John 1:7
The world was created for whom?Proverbs 16:4Colossians 1:16
Who is above all?Nehemiah 9:6Romans 9:5
Who is forever the same?Psalms 102:24-27Hebrews 1:8-12
Who is our light?Psalm 27:1John 8:12
Who is the way or path?Psalms 16:11John 14:6
Who is in charge of the angels?Psalms 103:202 Thessalonians 1:7
Who gives us rest?Exodus 33:14Matthew 11:28
Who gives eternal life?Proverbs 19:23John 3:36
We are the bride of whom?Isaiah 54:52 Corinthians 11:2
Who tests the heart and mind?Jeremiah 17:10Revelation 2:23

Peace and love in Jesus Christ

Charles

[terraricca]

charles

I will get back on this but later ,I have to read this and check it for truth.

Pierre

[csaliba]

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 25 2011,17:08)

charles I will get back on this but later ,I have to read this and check it for truth. Pierre

Pierre,

Also in John 10:18…………..I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again.

Since Jesus has this kind of power himself that he lay His life to die and also He Himself while dead has power to take it back again,isn't it clear enough that only God has such authority,and power on both death,and life?

[terraricca]

Charles

Read: I DID ,I WILL USE CAPITAL TO SHOW MY ANSWERS,OK ;;AND YOU DID NOT ANSWER MY QUESTION,

John 14:15 If you love me, keep my commandments ;;YES CHRIST AS TWO ,THEY ARE THE SUM OF ALL,

Who's commandments.??GODS

Which commandments??TWO THAT SUMS IT UP,

Luke1:16 And he shall convert many of the children of Israel to the Lord their God.

17 And he shall go before him in the spirit and
power of Elias; that he may turn the hearts of the fathers unto the children, and the incredulous to the wisdom of the just, to prepare unto the Lord a perfect people.

Titus 2:9 God our Saviour in all things:

John 5:39Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me(

Who is The Lord their God, in Luke 1:16 ;;GOD

to whom is the reference “he shall go before him.Luke 1:17 ?” JOHN THE BAPTIST

Who is our saviour. in Titus 2:9/??10 ;;GOD

If the scriptures testify of Jesus, then all hereunder is a proof that Jesus is God! No?? ;;NO, THE WORD HIS GODS WORD THAT TESTIFIED ABOUT THE COMING OF THE CHRIST SO JESUS HIS ONLY THE RECEIVER AND THE APPLIER OF THAT WORD,SEE -JOHN 24;14

Who is omnipotent (all powerful)?1 Chronicles 29:11Philippians 3:20-21
Who is omniscient (all knowing)?1 John 3:20Colossians 2:2-3
Who is omnipresent (present everywhere)?Proverbs 15:32 Corinthians 2:14
Who is Lord of Sabbath?Genesis 2:3Matthew 12:8
Who is the great “I am?”Exodus 3:14John 8:58
Who is the only creator?Isaiah 44:24John 1:3
Who is the only savior?Isaiah 43:11, 45:21Acts 4:12
Who will judge mankind?Isaiah 3:13, 142 Corinthians 5:10 John 5:22
Who will judge between the sheep and goats?Ezekiel 34:17Matthew 25:31-33
Who sent the prophets?Jeremiah 7:25Matthew 23:34
Who resurrected Jesus?Acts 4:10John 10:17-18
Who is “coming in glory?”Isaiah 40:5Matthew 24:30
Who is our Father?Isaiah 63:16Isaiah 9:6
Who is the “first and last?”Isaiah 44:6Revelation 1:17
Who is Rock of salvation?2 Samuel 22:321 Corinthians 10:4
IT IS GOD,

Who is Stone of stumbling?Isaiah 8:13-151 Peter 2:8 ;THIS IS CHRIST
“One crying in the wilderness” came to prepare a way for whom?Isaiah 40:3Matthew 3:3
Who is eternal?Genesis 21:33Micah 5:2
Who is the fountain of living waters?Jeremiah 17:13John 4:10-14
Who resurrects the dead?Acts 26:8John 6:40
Who gives rewards to man?Isaiah 40:10Matthew 16:27
Who has all authority and power?1 Chronicles 29:11Matthew 28:18
Who gives power and authority to man?Psalm 68:35Luke 9:1
Who forgives sin?2 Chronicles 7:14Matthew 9:6
Who sent the Holy Spirit?John 14:16John 16:7
Who has the greatest name?Nehemiah 9:5Philippians 2:9
Whom are we to worship?Exodus 34:14Revelation 5:12-13
Who is the good Shepherd?Genesis 48:15John 10:14
Who searches for the lost sheep of Israel?Ezekiel 34:11Matthew 15:24
Who is “Lord of Lords?”Deuteronomy 10:17Revelation 17:14
To whom shall every knee bow?Isaiah 45:22-23Philippians 2:10
Who is the righteous branch of David?Jeremiah 23:5-6Jeremiah 33:15
Who alone is Holy?1 Samuel 2:2Acts 3:14
Whose blood cleanses us?Acts 20:281 John 1:7
The world was created for whom?Proverbs 16:4Colossians 1:16 THE WORD OF GOD =CHRIST ;READ ALL COL;1.-9…………
Who is above all?Nehemiah 9:6Romans 9:5
Who is forever the same?Psalms 102:24-27Hebrews 1:8-12
Who is our light?Psalm 27:1John 8:12
GOD IS THE LIGHT BUT CHRIST SHOWED US THE LIGHT

Who is the way or path?Psalms 16:11John 14:6
Who is in charge of the angels?Psalms 103:202 Thessalonians 1:7
Who gives us rest?Exodus 33:14Matthew 11:28
Who gives eternal life?Proverbs 19:23John 3:36
We are the bride of whom?Isaiah 54:52 Corinthians 11:2
Who tests the heart and mind?Jeremiah 17:10Revelation 2:23

ALL THE ABOVE SCRIPTURES ARE TALKING OR ARE ADDRESSING TO GOD MAINLY,NEXT TO CHRIST ,SOME TO JOHN THE BAPTIST,

YOU HAVE ALSO MIXED PROPHECY AND LITERAL ACCOUNTS ,

YOU ALSO MISSED THE SCRIPTURE WERE CHRIST SAYS ALL POWER HAS BEEN GIVEN TO HIM , IN THIS WAY WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT BEFORE HE RECEIVED IT HE DID NOT POSSESS IT ;RIGHT ? YES

IN YOUR PRESENTATION YOU SEEM NOT TO UNDERSTAND ;JOHN 5;39.

YOU ALSO HAVE REJECT THE WORK THAT CHRIST HAD RECEIVED FROM HIS FATHER SINS THE BEGINNING AND THAT IT WILL ONLY ENDS WHEN HE TURN ALL THING TO HIS FATHER EVEN HIMSELF ,

YOU SHOULD READ 2 SAMUEL 22-27 LAST PART

Pierre

[thehappyman]

I think this goes back to the subject of trinity ?? and PR your right. Father then the His Son Jesus, then the Holy Spirit then everything that follows to this moment the is created.

[terraricca]

Quote (thehappyman @ Aug. 26 2011,20:32)

I think this goes back to the subject of trinity ??   and PR your right. Father then the His Son Jesus, then the Holy Spirit then everything that follows to this moment the is created.

the happyman

there are two that where not created one is God and the other one is the holy spirit ,

but to
why you have to  know what is the holy spirit ,right ?

Pierre

[carmel]

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 11 2011,04:16)

Charles Jn 18:37 “You are a king, then!” said Pilate. Jesus answered, “You are right in saying I am a king. In fact, for this reason I was born, and for this I came into the world, to testify to the truth. Everyone on the side of truth listens to me.” Jn 18:38 “What is truth?” Pilate asked could you answer that question ,Charles ?? Pierre

Pierre,

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Jn 18:38 “What is truth?” Pilate asked could you answer that question ,Charles ??

This is truth:

A son of horse is horse

A son of  dog is dog

A son of  man is man

What is wrong if according to this truth

THE SON OF GOD IS GOD??

Peace and love in Jesus Christ

Charles

[Ed J]

Hi carmel,

Welcome to h-net!
Are you forgetting that
Jesus was the son of Mary?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Lightenup]

Quote (carmel @ Sep. 07 2011,01:05)

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 11 2011,04:16) Charles Jn 18:37 “You are a king, then!” said Pilate. Jesus answered, “You are right in saying I am a king. In fact, for this reason I was born, and for this I came into the world, to testify to the truth. Everyone on the side of truth listens to me.” Jn 18:38 “What is truth?” Pilate asked could you answer that question ,Charles ?? Pierre Pierre, Quote Jn 18:38 “What is truth?” Pilate asked could you answer that question ,Charles ?? This is truth: A son of horse is horse A son of  dog is dog A son of  man is man What is wrong if according to this truth THE SON OF GOD IS GOD?? Peace and love in Jesus Christ Charles

Amen Charles!

[terraricca]

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 08 2011,10:33)

Quote (carmel @ Sep. 07 2011,01:05) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 11 2011,04:16) Charles Jn 18:37 “You are a king, then!” said Pilate. Jesus answered, “You are right in saying I am a king. In fact, for this reason I was born, and for this I came into the world, to testify to the truth. Everyone on the side of truth listens to me.” Jn 18:38 “What is truth?” Pilate asked could you answer that question ,Charles ?? Pierre Pierre, Quote Jn 18:38 “What is truth?” Pilate asked could you answer that question ,Charles ?? This is truth: A son of horse is horse A son of  dog is dog A son of  man is man What is wrong if according to this truth THE SON OF GOD IS GOD?? Peace and love in Jesus Christ Charles Amen Charles!

charles

you are a wicket savant,SO THIS IS THE CORRECT WORDING.

This is truth:

A son of horse is a other horse

A son of  dog is a other dog

A son of  man is a other man

What is wrong if according to this truth

THE SON OF GOD IS A OTHER GOD??This is truth:

SORRY KATHI BUT YOU HAVE WRONG VIEWS

Pierre

[Lightenup]

Pierre,
A son of man is another one who is man.
A son of God is another one who is God.

That is what was meant by Charles, I think, and that is what I agree with.

Kathi

[terraricca]

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 08 2011,13:13)

Pierre, A son of man is another one who is man. A son of God is another one who is God. That is what was meant by Charles, I think, and that is what I agree with. Kathi

Kathi

show me in what scriptures it says that Christ father is a man ?

if if his father is God then he is a other god,if is father is human then he is just another man,

so which one is it ?

Pierre

[Lightenup]

Pierre,
Jesus is both…God and man. He had a God the Father who begat Him before the ages and He had a mother that begat Him as a man.

Kathi

[terraricca]

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 08 2011,18:01)

Pierre, Jesus is both…God and man.  He had a God the Father who begat Him before the ages and He had a mother that begat Him as a man. Kathi

Kathi

what you are saying is that Christ was created the first has God son and later God made him come as a man to pay for all are sins ,well I can accept that ,

scriptures say that Christ is first in everything ,this is a gift of God his father ,this is why we always should worship the father and thank him for all he did for his creation ,

Pierre

[terraricca]

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 08 2011,13:13)

Pierre, A son of man is another one who is man. A son of God is another one who is God. That is what was meant by Charles, I think, and that is what I agree with. Kathi

Kathi

that is not what was written ,right ? true

now you backpedaling ?

if Charles and you can not write what you mean,how is it to me to understand you guys?

this is not how scriptures work,

Pierre

[mikeboll64]

Quote (carmel @ Sep. 07 2011,00:05)

This is truth: A son of horse is horse A son of  dog is dog A son of  man is man What is wrong if according to this truth THE SON OF GOD IS GOD?? Peace and love in Jesus Christ Charles

Hi Charles,

Pierre started you off on the right track by pointing out that the son of a horse is a DIFFERENT horse.  I wanted to add this:  A son of THE anything cannot also be that ONE thing.  So if there was only ONE horse in existence, the son of THE horse would not be THE horse he is the son of.  For example:

A son of Mr. Ed is NOT Mr. Ed himself.

A son of Rin Tin Tin is NOT Rin Tin Tin himself.

A son of President Obama is NOT President Obama himself.

And a son of THE God Most High is NOT THE God Most High Himself.

God is a Spirit Being.  And the son of A spirit being is a DIFFERENT spirit being.  Just because the Father of the second spirit being happens to be God Most High does not make the son He begot also God Most High.

Jehovah is the Most High God. (Gen 14:22)  And Jesus is the SON OF the Most High God. (Mark 5:7)  Do you accept these scriptures as truth?  If you do, then you will understand that Jesus is the Son OF Jehovah, THE Most High God, and therefore cannot BE Jehovah, THE Most High God.

mike

[ftk]

To all: As we are “BornAgain” it is by “faith” (like Mary) that we believe/accept the word/seed of God our Father, within and become pregnant with Gods seed/words, that if nurtured and cared for, will grow unto a full God/Man like Jesus. (there is no difference in male or female in the truth) We must consummate our union with Gods words. That union will bring forth a God/man! IMO, TK

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