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Quote (JustAskin @ Dec. 09 2010,02:09) Mike, You have once again lost the discussion.
Tnere is nothing more to say.
You have gone from Spirits having bodies with silly earthly examples…when Spirits are not earthly…that's the whole point…they are Spirits…
You thrash around trying to find even more ridiculous nonesense about 'occupying space' not realising you were actually cornering yourself because if Angels have a body, that body must occupy space…physical space, in galactic space, in celestial space just like tne Sun, moon and stars…therefore, how can they be in more than one place at a time, how can they be inside a man, in fact legions of them in one man.
How can Jesus' …spirit…be in more than one person at a time…because it is SPIRIT. Spirits have no bounds, tney have no bodies to be bounded by….you think of physical bodies but how then are they in more than one person and how do they move from place to place in 'no time at all'…Mike, you are earthbound, bound in flesh…remain so…stop trying to mislead othersconcerning the Spirit…it is clear you are in complete ignorance and it is false pride in 'debating' that drives you.
The whole of '1Cotty15' is about Mankind being raised up from dead into a new Spiritual body.
Mankind, the glory of God…the glorious creation, in His image, to be like Him…
And Jesus Christ is the first..that's why God made him 'perfect'…begotten Son…and High Priest…
Tnis draws all the threads together…
Jesus was an Angel in Heaven.
Angels are servants of God.Mankind is made in the image of God. Adam, was made to be Son of God in the flesh…meant to become 'perfected', but he sinned, fell from grace, no longer Son of God.
So another had to be put in place because God's plans MUST be fulfilled.
God chose his most righteous Spirit Son, we call him 'Jesus' but we don't know his name while in Heaven (But it is 'Wonderful'), just as we don't know Satan's name (But we call him 'Lucifer')
This 'Jesus', existing in divine state…Angels cannot die…because there is nothing of them To Die…they are Spirits, sustained by the power of God, ARE the power of God, perpetual power cannot be destroyed…
Jesus empties himself of this divinity and his 'mind' is put into ' the body you have prepared for me'.This, then, is where Gene believes he began life…yes, life as Man. 100% Man, subject to sin, but he did not sin.
Jesus was therefore 'Son of God', the replacement for the first Adam, just as Seth became the replacement for Abel (oh, how you hate fractals (Pharasee) because they qualify the hidden truths of Scriptures and you want to say, 'i found it myself'. Mike, God knows the mind of man and put things in place to safeguard his word…wouldn't you do that…yes, for you were made like your creator…but yet you deny what God has pleased himself to do….so so sad…)So Jesus remains sinless, becomes the human blood sacrifice that God requires (Animal sacrifice was just temporary holding).
Jesus dies, saves mankind from ultimate death, into personal death. Now each man is selfresponsible.
So, having overcome, he is perfected, laid as a seed in the ground, sown, dies..and raised up again…the new plant from the seed..
For that which is sown is not the same as that which grows from the sown. The wheat grain becomes the wheat plant, and from the wheat plant comes many more wheat seeds, from whence, when sowed and dies, more wheat plants…
So it is with the body of man…he is 'sown' ,..dead in the ground, but then raised up, not the same dead, but a new 'body', a spiritual body…who influences others, many others, to likewise be sown, and raised up….Mike, 1corry15, is nothing to do with 'do spirits have bodies'.
You use it because it was the ONLY verses that even mentioned anything like the poorly thought out ideas you have on 'Spiritual bodies'.
My God (No, defo, not you, mike)…… You even try to say that 'Sun, moon and stars' are NOT Celestial bodies….what!!!!!!
Paul makes not one single reference to 'Spirits', as in Angels, yet somehow you make a link. A link so untenable i can only imagine your brain has become unhinged.Mike, take a break…i open my arms to welcome you to truth and you spit into them….spit in my back also, then…for that is what you will see of me on this topic.
And …you lie about me running away from that other topic…it's you who cannot accept correction and no matter how anyone shows you truth you refuse to accept it.
Even when you 'win' you 'lose'.
Mike, i woke this morning and the Spirit said to me: 'Ask Mike this…'
So, Mike, you like puzzles, don't you?
When is it good to be wrong?
When is it bad to be right?
JAyou could not answer two question ??
why?
??Pierre
Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 09 2010,03:47) Pierre, What do you believe a new creation is?
Kerwinthose scriptures can not be fulfilled unless you die first;
Gal 5:7 You were running a good race. Who cut in on you and kept you from obeying the truth?
1Co 9:27 No, I beat my body and make it my slave so that after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified for the prize.
1Co 10:12 So, if you think you are standing firm, be careful that you don’t fall!
1Co 10:13 No temptation has seized you except what is common to man. And God is faithful; he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear. But when you are tempted, he will also provide a way out so that you can stand up under it.
1Th 5:21 Test everything. Hold on to the good.
1Th 5:22 Avoid every kind of evil.
1Th 5:23 May God himself, the God of peace, sanctify you through and through. May your whole spirit, soul and body be kept blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
1Th 5:24 The one who calls you is faithful and he will do it.2Th 1:5 All this is evidence that God’s judgment is right, and as a result you will be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which you are suffering
2Th 1:8 He will punish those who do not know God and do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus.
2Th 1:9 They will be punished with everlasting destruction and shut out from the presence of the Lord and from the majesty of his powerJas 2:12 Speak and act as those who are going to be judged by the law that gives freedom,
Jas 2:13 because judgment without mercy will be shown to anyone who has not been merciful. Mercy triumphs over judgmentJas 3:13 Who is wise and understanding among you? Let him show it by his good life, by deeds done in the humility that comes from wisdom.
Jas 3:14 But if you harbor bitter envy and selfish ambition in your hearts, do not boast about it or deny the truthJas 4:7 Submit yourselves, then, to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.
Jas 4:8 Come near to God and he will come near to you. Wash your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you double-mindedJas 5:10 Brothers, as an example of patience in the face of suffering, take the prophets who spoke in the name of the Lord.
Jas 5:11 As you know, we consider blessed those who have persevered. You have heard of Job’s perseverance and have seen what the Lord finally brought about.all those scriptures are in contradiction of your believe,
and now Gene read this verse;1Pe 1:3 Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! In his great mercy he has given us new birth into a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the deadDO YOU SEE THE””” NEW REBIRTH””””
Pierre
Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 09 2010,12:39) Pierre, How does Jesus' teaching on being born again in John 3:1-21 relate to the new creation.
KerwinSo it is with everyone born of the Spirit.”
Jn 3:9 “How can this be?” Nicodemus asked.
Jn 3:10 “You are Israel’s teacher,” said Jesus, “and do you not understand these things?
Jn 3:11 I tell you the truth, we speak of what we know, and we testify to what we have seen, but still you people do not accept our testimony.
Jn 3:12 I have spoken to you of earthly things and you do not believe; how then will you believe if I speak of heavenly things?
Jn 3:13 No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven—the Son of Man.
Jn 3:14 Just as Moses lifted up the snake in the desert, so the Son of Man must be lifted up,
Jn 3:15 that everyone who believes in him may have eternal life.
Jn 3:16 “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
Jn 3:17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.
Jn 3:18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son.
Jn 3:19 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil.
Jn 3:20 Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed.
Jn 3:21 But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what he has done has been done through God.”like I told you before you have knowledge but you have not beable to put two and two together,
Col 3:1 Since, then, you have been raised with Christ, set your hearts on things above, where Christ is seated at the right hand of God.
Col 3:2 Set your minds on things above, not on earthly things.
Col 3:3 For you died, and your life is now hidden with Christ in God.
Col 3:4 When Christ, who is your life, appears, then you also will appear with him in glory.
Col 3:5 Put to death, therefore, whatever belongs to your earthly nature: sexual immorality, impurity, lust, evil desires and greed, which is idolatry.
Col 3:6 Because of these, the wrath of God is coming.
Col 3:7 You used to walk in these ways, in the life you once livedthose scriptures shows you how a believer becomes a new creation,by putting his old live to dead and so start a new live
in Christ,this is only possible trough the sacrifice of Christ.Pierre
Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 09 2010,13:16) Pierre, Isn't Romans 6:1-14 teaching us about being born again?
KerwinRo 6:1 What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase?
Ro 6:2 By no means! We died to sin; how can we live in it any longer?
Ro 6:3 Or don’t you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death?
Ro 6:4 We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life.
Ro 6:5 If we have been united with him like this in his death, we will certainly also be united with him in his resurrection.
Ro 6:6 For we know that our old self was crucified with him so that the body of sin might be done away with, that we should no longer be slaves to sin—
Ro 6:7 because anyone who has died has been freed from sin.
Ro 6:8 Now if we died with Christ, we believe that we will also live with him.
Ro 6:9 For we know that since Christ was raised from the dead, he cannot die again; death no longer has mastery over him.
Ro 6:10 The death he died, he died to sin once for all; but the life he lives, he lives to Godyes all those scriptures and even more all show the same thing with a different approach,but means exactly the same thing;what is TO CHANGE FROM LIVING IN SIN AND START TO LIVE IN THE SPIRIT BEING DOING THE THINGS OF GOD TROUGH CHRIST.AND SO OBTAIN LIVE.
Pierre
Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 09 2010,03:58) JA you could not answer two question ??
why?
??Pierre
Hi Pierre,You summed it up fine. I won't even bother reading his posts. Anyone who is able to defend their scriptural beliefs should be equally willing to break it down point by point so each individual point gets answered.
WJ won't do that. Nor was Mark able to in the “Scriptures that teach Jesus is God” thread, as you well know. And since I didn't really expect JA to even try, I wasn't disappointed.
If your belief and understanding is strong and correct, then you should eagerly accept the chance to teach someone what you know point by point.
On the other hand, if your beliefs rely on posting many, many distracting things at once, and usually not one of those things has anything at all to do with scriptures, then your beliefs won't stand up to the test of “scriptural truth”.
If my beliefs don't stand up to that test, then I will BEG someone to show me why – so after they show me, I WILL be speaking the truth from there on out.
I guess some of us would rather just stick with our own imaginations than believe scripture.
peace and love,
mikeQuote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 09 2010,16:23) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 09 2010,03:58) JA you could not answer two question ??
why?
??Pierre
Hi Pierre,You summed it up fine. I won't even bother reading his posts. Anyone who is able to defend their scriptural beliefs should be equally willing to break it down point by point so each individual point gets answered.
WJ won't do that. Nor was Mark able to in the “Scriptures that teach Jesus is God” thread, as you well know. And since I didn't really expect JA to even try, I wasn't disappointed.
If your belief and understanding is strong and correct, then you should eagerly accept the chance to teach someone what you know point by point.
On the other hand, if your beliefs rely on posting many, many distracting things at once, and usually not one of those things has anything at all to do with scriptures, then your beliefs won't stand up to the test of “scriptural truth”.
If my beliefs don't stand up to that test, then I will BEG someone to show me why – so after they show me, I WILL be speaking the truth from there on out.
I guess some of us would rather just stick with our own imaginations than believe scripture.
peace and love,
mike
Mikeyes,so it is,the truth will always stand,will never be shaken,
the ones who trust in God will never see shame.
Love you brother
Pierre
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 09 2010,11:23) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 09 2010,03:58) JA you could not answer two question ??
why?
??Pierre
Hi Pierre,You summed it up fine. I won't even bother reading his posts. Anyone who is able to defend their scriptural beliefs should be equally willing to break it down point by point so each individual point gets answered.
WJ won't do that. Nor was Mark able to in the “Scriptures that teach Jesus is God” thread, as you well know. And since I didn't really expect JA to even try, I wasn't disappointed.
If your belief and understanding is strong and correct, then you should eagerly accept the chance to teach someone what you know point by point.
On the other hand, if your beliefs rely on posting many, many distracting things at once, and usually not one of those things has anything at all to do with scriptures, then your beliefs won't stand up to the test of “scriptural truth”.
If my beliefs don't stand up to that test, then I will BEG someone to show me why – so after they show me, I WILL be speaking the truth from there on out.
I guess some of us would rather just stick with our own imaginations than believe scripture.
peace and love,
mike
Mike, sometimes peoples understanding comes through the Holy Spirit. When this happens scriptual verses come to mind but presenting it tidy and well quoted with dictionary help and so on doesnt happen. Whenever I have been shown things, nothing is done like this. It's all 'random' I guess is the word.But the Counselor, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things, and will remind you of all that I said to you.
But as it is written, “Things which an eye didn't see, and an ear didn't hear, which didn't enter into the heart of man, these God has prepared for those who love him.”
But to us, God revealed them through the Spirit. For the Spirit searches all things, yes, the deep things of God. For who among men knows the things of a man, except the spirit of the man, which is in him? Even so, no one knows the things of God, except God's Spirit. But we received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit which is from God, that we might know the things that were freely given to us by God. Which things also we speak, not in words which man's wisdom teaches, but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual things.
Now the natural man doesn't receive the things of God's Spirit, for they are foolishness to him, and he can't know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
So just because others don't so things as you and Pierre and other's do, doesnt mean to say they are not speaking truth.
I have many times felt the Spirit through what JA is writing here.
If you see error in what someone is saying then see the good in them, love them, see through what you don't like, try to help them. Most of JAs beliefs are exactly like yours are. The same goes for Mark apart from the Trinity.
All these thing's you are discussing are not clear so only lead to confusion for some.
God said we were to be ready for the last day's ok. Do you think about prophecy and the last day's ? The Testimony of Jesus is the Spirit of Prophecy.
We all are wrong in our own ways. Dont be righteous in your own eye's. See that you and Pierre and others also go wrong. As do I.
shimmer
you say;If you see error in what someone is saying then see the good in them, love them, see through what you don't like, try to help them. Most of JAs beliefs are exactly like yours are. The same goes for Mark apart from the Trinity.
All these thing's you are discussing are not clear so only lead to confusion for some.
God said we were to be ready for the last day's ok. Do you think about prophecy and the last day's ? The Testimony of Jesus is the Spirit of Prophecy.
We all are wrong in our own ways. Dont be righteous in your own eye's. See that you and Pierre and others also go wrong. As do I.
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in general you right,but this is primary a site of truth in the believer section that is,so truth will be the rule;not emotions
or feelings,but what make you believe that we do not like JA,or others?? just because we defend Gods truth??and as for the two questions that Mike has ask to be answered they are in line with previous quotes and discussions.
I do believe if you put yourself as a teacher then you suppose to face your critics or students,right??
one more thing understanding comes in two ways and so not only by the holyspirit.Pierre
Quote (shimmer @ Dec. 09 2010,10:46) Mike, sometimes peoples understanding comes through the Holy Spirit. When this happens scriptual verses come to mind but presenting it tidy and well quoted with dictionary help and so on doesnt happen. Whenever I have been shown things, nothing is done like this. It's all 'random' I guess is the word.
Hi Shimmer,You must test any spirit that teaches you, to see if it is in fact from God, or maybe from the deceiver. Scripture is the ONLY way we have of testing what that spirit has told us.
When I am lead by spirit, I am always pointed TO scriptures, not away from them. The Spirit will lead you to the truth of the scriptures and help you to understand what is written, Shimmer. It HAS to, or how else could we test the spirit as the scriptures tell us too?
WJ feels lead by Spirit in his belief in the trinity, yet you know that's not taught in the scriptures.
Kathi feels lead by the Spirit to worship Jesus, yet you know that's not taught in the scriptures.
JA feels lead by the Spirit to ignore all the scriptures that teach about all things being created through Jesus. He is also lead to believe even more far-fetched things than that, like Satan is God's real firstborn and Satan helped to create the earth, etc.
I wonder what spirit these people are being “lead” by? Shimmer, if someone is being “lead” to believe things that scripture contradicts, then they aren't being lead by the Spirit of God. There's just no two ways around it sister.
peace and love,
mikeQuote (kerwin @ Dec. 09 2010,22:01) Pierre, Do you believe that those who put the old man to death are a new creation?
Kerwinyes that is what scriptures talk about since Christ ,all away trough revelation.
that's how we are saved,you see the law could or did not do that because of the guilt of sin,
but wen Christ came ,he removed the guilt of sin by forgiving the past sins,and that's why we have to cover our self with the new creation in Christ and so no longer sin we have to overcome the carnal nature,and live by the spirit but not any spirit ,CHRIST SPIRIT.
Pierre
Shimmer,
The last paragraph of the italicalised quote in your post on page 51, exactly sums up Mikeboll, Terra and Irene, on this tthread topic.How many times have i said that Mike cannot see truth through the Spirit but only through flesh…and it the Spirit of Truth that reveals.
The discord we have here is obviously caused by Mike seeing things through the flesh…he sees 'physicsl Angels' that need bodies to exist in….the whole point of a Spirit is exactly that it doesn't exist in a body…
If it has no body, then it can go anywhere, exist anywhere, forever…physical properties cannot hurt it, it is ethereal…it can have enormous power, or little power,….why would it need Wings? Or eyes? Or ears, or hands….these are physical properties for physical world existence.
God is a Spirit….he need only 'speak' a word …and it is accomplished…
What do you see God doing…waving his 'hands' around and muttering like a 'greybearded wizard', wearing a celestial sun stars and moon patterned gown and multicoloured pointy hat?
No…Mike sees Spirits with physcal properties.Yes, Shimmer, you are right. Me and Mike do speak the same…but different….that's why i 'begot him' in the beginning but he became a 'hot potato' when he got lost debating 'begotten' with KJ.
I hoped he would see the light…has he seen it yet….?yes, and no.
Yes, he's seen it.
No, he won't believe it.Is he Still saying that 'begotten' is when Jesus was 'born' when everything has been proved that 'begotten' was when he became the 'perfected Son of God….with Power', the new ceeation in Man, the Spiritbodied man,….ooh the threads of Scriptures tying together…how wonderful.
I asked Mike to do a 'timeline' diagram and fill it out with Scriptures….then he would see where every verse fits…but guess what…? He says it's f…ishness!
But, you know what…he does see that i am right…or rather, he sees that 'Scriotural revelation by the Holy Spirit' is right…he's just to ashamed to admit it.
Just look at his posts…thrashing is obvious…desputing clear points of Scriptures with nonesense arguments…how sad…i beg him to stop..offer a hand of friendship, no sneering, yeah, i have my faults, tell me about them! He opens his doorway wide and we can see inside his house…what a mess, yet even in that mess, are the valuables of truth…Mike, you just need someone to help you tidy them up, put things in order, clean up some of the mess. Through out the trash (hello, hi, What's the largest Rubbush Skip you hire. Yes, cost? just charge it to 'the lost Spirit in AZ. yes, immediate delivery, thanks')
Could whomever is the owner of this thread please try to keep the posts on topic.
The thread is concerning 'Spirits with bodies…: Do Spirits (God,Angels, ….Christ as Man in Heaven) have bodies?
If there is substantial variance from the topic theme for prolonged period then please as a moderator (?) to move the new variance to a new thread…or ask the posters to refrain from posting here…the interest in the variance would still be as topical even under it's own title or in an existing thread of a more suitable title, perhaps?
[Moderator]
Terra,
Your last post was well made.
But, not you alone but also Gene and Kerwin, need to see you are sliding off topic.
In fact, even Mike…because he has slipped of 'Angels' as Spirits having bodies, onto 'Jesus becoming the new creation'.
Perhaps because he has found no proof, in fact nothing at all, concerning, 'Spirits in heaven having bodies'.His conclusion (Mike doesn't know what a 'Conclusion' is!!!) is that:
“They must have…mustn't they? We have…so they must to, mustn't they?”See, this is a child saying that 'chicken eggs come from the Supermarket, mustn't they. That's where mommy gets them from, doesn't she?'
How do you explain to a child with a locked mind all the transitions from the Hen on the farm through to the Supermarket, such that the child can understand…not this child…he will want to know how the yolk got inside the egg, how the egg got up inside the chicken… (See, backwards….everything backwards…who would believe it that way?).
The child will not believe and remain saying, 'what you telling me is silly. I know mommy buys them!'In the same way, Mike says Spirits must have bodies because we have…that is backwards…
The Spirits in Heaven are first…not last…God is Spirit, and created the invisible Spirit hord.
Then he said, 'I will make a great creation such as has never been known…. I will make a physical visible world…and in it i will creation a restricted limited version of myself in the physical, in the visible.
And he called that creation, 'ADAM', meaning 'Mankind'.And mankind is a kind of 'god', god over his physical world, in his visible world, just as Almighty God is god over all the worlds, invisible, visible, Spiritual, physical.
The Spiritual world is not bounded…it is an amorphous powerhouse. And God is the source of that power, the 'centre' of that power we call his 'Throne'.
His creation of the Angels are Spirts who 'embody' limited amounts of that power, added to authority to wield that power.
Now, this 'embody' is not like human 'body'. It just means 'access to'. There is no 'container'. The Spirit has access to the power as given and when needed.It is like thought creating action.
Think something and it is translated to an act with authorised power.A Computer system works the same way.
Our human bodies work the szme way.
A computer has a digital written program…how is the execution of that program translated into physical movement of, say, a robot?
In the same way, we have a thought. How is that thought translated into us, say, lifting our hand?Does the thought gave a body? No. The thought is embodied in the body…the Spirit (Thought) is embodied in the body to help actuate it, animate it. Kill the body, destroy the body…the spirit is still there but unable to act…it has no body to actuate.
Remove the Spirit from the Spirit from the body and the body is dead, cannot be actuated, unless a Spirit is returned to it before the body decays to an unsustainable level.So, Spirit, like thought, like the wind, like power…has no body…it must be out into a body …in the physical world.
Outside of the physical world it is free to go where it will.This is hard to say to all because it is clear and evident that many here have never been in the Spirit…(never been to a farm…)
JA These are Scriptures that tell us that all have Bodies according to the will of God.
1Cr 15:38 But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body.
1Cr 15:39 All flesh [is] not the same flesh: but [there is] one [kind of] flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, [and] another of birds.
1Cr 15:40 [There are] also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial [is] one, and the [glory] of the terrestrial [is] another.
celestial in Webster dictionary says it is Heavenly. The Angels are in Heaven. They do have Bodies, according to Webster dict.
1Cr 15:41 [There is] one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for [one] star differeth from [another] star in glory.
1Cr 15:42 So also [is] the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:
1Cr 15:43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:
1Cr 15:44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
1Cr 15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam [was made] a quickening spirit.
Peace Irene
Mike
could you move Kerwin and terraricca quotes to the new topic “new creation /born again/rebirth “
thank you
Pierre
Irene,
I see you end your post with the words 'Peace'…Do you have 'Peace'?
I think not.
Why have you just quoted Scripture verses to me…AT me?
God gives each type of seed a body..
What are you saying to me?Is a Spirit, 'a seed'?
Paul is not speaking of Spirit. He is peaking concerning mankind.
The whole of '1corry15' is about mankind attaining into the new creation after the fashion of Jesus Christ.
The thread topic is 'Do Spirits have bodies'.
Where in what Paul is saying do you see Spirits (Angels) being spoken of.
I know you are female so I will go lightly with you. In fact, I will not converse with you as it is clear you do not even begin to have an inkling of an idea what you are talking about but only do as Terra does …quote blocks of Scriptures out of context with not link to the topic under discussion.
You three…you three 'kings of Disorient'.
To Irene: Peace ( \\ //__ …any 'Trekkies' out there?)
Quote (JustAskin @ Dec. 09 2010,20:09) Irene,
I see you end your post with the words 'Peace'…Do you have 'Peace'?
I think not.
Why have you just quoted Scripture verses to me…AT me?
God gives each type of seed a body..
What are you saying to me?Is a Spirit, 'a seed'?
Paul is not speaking of Spirit. He is peaking concerning mankind.
The whole of '1corry15' is about mankind attaining into the new creation after the fashion of Jesus Christ.
The thread topic is 'Do Spirits have bodies'.
Where in what Paul is saying do you see Spirits (Angels) being spoken of.
I know you are female so I will go lightly with you. In fact, I will not converse with you as it is clear you do not even begin to have an inkling of an idea what you are talking about but only do as Terra does …quote blocks of Scriptures out of context with not link to the topic under discussion.
You three…you three 'kings of Disorient'.
To Irene: Peace ( \\ //__ …any 'Trekkies' out there?)
JA Read it again. There is a natual body and there is a Spiritual body.
There are celestial bodies and there are terrestrial bodies.What you do is only pick what fits you and don't take all into consideration.
Yes, I am very nuch at peace. I know where I am and I know what Scriptures have taught me. Also why do you always find it so important to get personal. you do with Mike and now you are doing it with me. i will not again respond to your personal attack again….
Peace Irene that has been my signature for a long time…..I have omitted Love to some, because of their attitude, which of course I should not. Being human!!!!!!
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