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[Ed J]

Hi 2Besee,

Are you suggesting that Christ did NOT have a spirit of his own?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[2besee]

Thank you Jodi
That is interesting.

[Ed J]

Quote (2besee @ June 26 2013,20:05)

Ed J, So — as there is only one spirit, it is called both 'the spirit of God' and 'the spirit of Christ' and as there is only one spirit, the Holy Spirit. Why do you say that there is two spirits here?

Hi 2Besee,

“But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that
(1)the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not
(2)the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.” (Romans 8:9)

“If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him,
 and  we  will come unto him, and make  our  abode with him.” (John 14:23)

Who is the “WE” in John 14:23?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[2besee]

Quote (Ed J @ June 26 2013,22:05)

Hi 2Besee, Are you suggesting that Christ did NOT have a spirit of his own? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Ed,
Yes Jesus would of had his own spirit as we all do but the Christ, Holy Spirit came on him at the Jordan, and then He became the Christ.

It is the same spirit as scripture says.
Could you please address the scriptures that I posted.

[Ed J]

Quote (2besee @ June 26 2013,19:58)

Hi Ed J ” You are not in the flesh but in the Spirit — if it is so, that THE SPIRIT OF GOD dwells in you. But if any man doesn't have the SPIRIT OF CHRIST, he is not his.” There if only one spirit. 1 Corinthians 12 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and [that] no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost. Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit. And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord. And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all. But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal. For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit; To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit; To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another [divers] kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues: But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will. For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also [is] Christ. For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether [we be] Jews or Gentiles, whether [we be] bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

Hi 2Besee,

What do you want to know about these verses?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[2besee]

Ed J
You are such a fast poster
I'm having trouble posting ATM with the reply box on the phone.

[Ed J]

Quote (Ed J @ June 26 2013,20:10)

Quote (2besee @ June 26 2013,20:05) Ed J, So — as there is only one spirit, it is called both 'the spirit of God' and 'the spirit of Christ' and as there is only one spirit, the Holy Spirit. Why do you say that there is two spirits here? Hi 2Besee, “But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that (1)the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not (2)the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.” (Romans 8:9) “If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him,  and  we  will come unto him, and make  our  abode with him.” (John 14:23) Who is the “WE” in John 14:23? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Are you going to answer my question?

[2besee]

Quote (Ed J @ June 26 2013,22:14)

Quote (2besee @ June 26 2013,19:58) Hi Ed J ” You are not in the flesh but in the Spirit — if it is so, that THE SPIRIT OF GOD dwells in you. But if any man doesn't have the SPIRIT OF CHRIST, he is not his.” There if only one spirit. 1 Corinthians 12 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and [that] no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost. Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit. And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord. And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all. But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal. For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit; To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit; To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another [divers] kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues: But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will. For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also [is] Christ. For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether [we be] Jews or Gentiles, whether [we be] bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. Hi 2Besee, What do you want to know about these verses? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Ed,
Read and comprehendo!

[2besee]

Quote (Ed J @ June 26 2013,22:15)

Quote (Ed J @ June 26 2013,20:10) Quote (2besee @ June 26 2013,20:05) Ed J, So — as there is only one spirit, it is called both 'the spirit of God' and 'the spirit of Christ' and as there is only one spirit, the Holy Spirit. Why do you say that there is two spirits here? Hi 2Besee, “But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that (1)the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not (2)the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.” (Romans 8:9) “If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him,  and  we  will come unto him, and make  our  abode with him.” (John 14:23) Who is the “WE” in John 14:23? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Are you going to answer my question?

Ed,
“we” is nit in the Greek, remember I showed you that. Look it up on “Bible hub”.

[Ed J]

Quote (2besee @ June 26 2013,20:16)

Quote (Ed J @ June 26 2013,22:14) Quote (2besee @ June 26 2013,19:58) Hi Ed J ” You are not in the flesh but in the Spirit — if it is so, that THE SPIRIT OF GOD dwells in you. But if any man doesn't have the SPIRIT OF CHRIST, he is not his.” There if only one spirit. 1 Corinthians 12 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and [that] no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost. Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit. And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord. And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all. But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal. For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit; To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit; To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another [divers] kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues: But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will. For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also [is] Christ. For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether [we be] Jews or Gentiles, whether [we be] bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. Hi 2Besee, What do you want to know about these verses? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Ed, Read and comprehendo!

Hi 2Besee,

There is only one “Spirit of God” and that is the “HolySpirit”
which Jesus received right “AFTER” his baptism by John.

This is not that hard to understand: You agree that Jesus had a spirit
of his own. WELL, that spirit which was his own was “the spirit of Christ”.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[2besee]

erchomai: to come, go
Original word:ἔρχομαι
Short Definition:I come, go Definition:I come, go.

http://biblehub.com/text/john/14-23.htm

Jesus also told them that the Holy Spirit would be sent to be with them and us until the end (the end has not come yet)
Then Jesus said “ I will come to you. That was the spirit speaking.

[Ed J]

Quote (2besee @ June 26 2013,20:19)

Quote (Ed J @ June 26 2013,22:15) Quote (Ed J @ June 26 2013,20:10) Quote (2besee @ June 26 2013,20:05) Ed J, So — as there is only one spirit, it is called both 'the spirit of God' and 'the spirit of Christ' and as there is only one spirit, the Holy Spirit. Why do you say that there is two spirits here? Hi 2Besee, “But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that (1)the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not (2)the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.” (Romans 8:9) “If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him,  and  we(G2064)  will come unto him, and make  our abode(G3438) with him.” (John 14:23) Who is the “WE” in John 14:23? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Are you going to answer my question? Ed, “we” is nit in the Greek, remember I showed you that. Look it up on “Bible hub”.

Hi 2Besee,

We G2064

accompany, appear, bring, come, enter, fall out, go, grow

Middle voice of a primary verb (used only in the present and imperfect tenses, the others being supplied by a kindred (middle voice) eleuthomai el-yoo'-thom-ahee, or (active) eltho el'-tho, which do not otherwise occur) to come or go (in a great variety of applications, literally and figuratively) — accompany, appear, bring, come, enter, fall out, go, grow, X light, X next, pass, resort, be set.

Our abodeG3438

abode, mansion.

From meno; a staying, i.e. Residence (the act or the place) — abode, mansion.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (Ed J @ June 26 2013,20:33)

Quote (2besee @ June 26 2013,20:19) Quote (Ed J @ June 26 2013,22:15) Quote (Ed J @ June 26 2013,20:10) Quote (2besee @ June 26 2013,20:05) Ed J, So — as there is only one spirit, it is called both 'the spirit of God' and 'the spirit of Christ' and as there is only one spirit, the Holy Spirit. Why do you say that there is two spirits here? Hi 2Besee, “But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that (1)the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not (2)the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.” (Romans 8:9) “If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him,  and  we(G2064)  will come unto him, and make  our abode(G3438) with him.” (John 14:23) Who is the “WE” in John 14:23? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Are you going to answer my question? Ed, “we” is nit in the Greek, remember I showed you that. Look it up on “Bible hub”. Hi 2Besee, We G2064 accompany, appear, bring, come, enter, fall out, go, grow Middle voice of a primary verb (used only in the present and imperfect tenses, the others being supplied by a kindred (middle voice) eleuthomai el-yoo'-thom-ahee, or (active) eltho el'-tho, which do not otherwise occur) to come or go (in a great variety of applications, literally and figuratively) — accompany, appear, bring, come, enter, fall out, go, grow, X light, X next, pass, resort, be set. Our abodeG3438 abode, mansion. From meno; a staying, i.e. Residence (the act or the place) — abode, mansion. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

“That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me,
and I in thee, that they also may be one in us:” (John 17:21)

[abe]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 25 2013,06:12)

Abe………Yes i would say the “CHRISTOS” is in all who have it. Question is what is the Christos is it a the Man Jesus or the anointing Spirit that was in Him? Jesus like us had his own spirit he was born with, but that spirit is not the Christos or anointing Spirit of God, Which he later recieved, when he was baptized in the Jordan river by John the baptist. That spirit made him the Son of GOD in a spritual sense. Therefore it says…..> “IF” the spirit of him that raised Christ (Jesus) from the dead dwell in you, It or He, shall “also” bring to life your “MORTAL BODY”. That Spirit was not Jesus but the Cristos or anointing Spirit of GOD that was “IN” Jesus. IMO Yes i have a scripture for Gods seed…..>   1 John 3:9….> Whosoever is “born” of God does not commit sin for (because) his seed (Gods seed) remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, becasue he is “born” of God. verse 10….> in this the childern of God are manifest, and the childern of the devil: whosoever does not rightiousness is not of God, neither he that loves not his brother peace and love to you and yours………gene

Hi Gene,

(Quote)
Yes i would say the “CHRISTOS” is in all who Have it. Question is what is the Christos is it a the Man Jesus or the anointing Spirit that was in Him?

Do you believe Christ is the Word? Past, Present, Future?

Peace brother…

[2besee]

Hi Abe,
What do you think?

[abe]

Quote (2besee @ June 26 2013,13:35)

Hi Abe, What do you think?

Hi 2b,

Jn.1:1   In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2The same was in the beginning with God. 3All things were made through him; and without him was not anything made that hath been made.

Col.1:15   who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation; 16for in him were all things created, in the heavens and upon the earth, things visible and things invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers; all things have been created through him, and unto(into) him; 17and he is before all things, and in him all things consist.

Do you think God was telling us about Himself? Or a image of Himself?

Peace brother….

[abe]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 25 2013,20:47)

Abe……..I had that book of the “Hebrew Mechanical translation of Genesis”, it is written by Jeff Benner, I sent it to brother Adam years ago. It is very good at showing the difference of words used by the Hebrew language and the English wording , like Jodi brought out , the word we use for create the Hebrews “fattening” like filling or enlarging. He also has the original pictorial Language the Hebrews used to mean GOD, it was a ox head with a staff alongside it, the ox was a symbol for power and the staff was what they trusted and leaned on for there support.  You can go to his web site and get all of this there. Peace and love to you and yours……………………gene

Hi Gene,

Thank you.

Peace brother..

[2besee]

Quote (abe @ June 27 2013,12:18)

Quote (2besee @ June 26 2013,13:35) Hi Abe, What do you think? Hi 2b, Jn.1:1   In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2The same was in the beginning with God. 3All things were made through him; and without him was not anything made that hath been made. Col.1:15   who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation; 16for in him were all things created, in the heavens and upon the earth, things visible and things invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers; all things have been created through him, and unto(into) him; 17and he is before all things, and in him all things consist. Do you think God was telling us about Himself? Or a image of Himself? Peace brother….

Hi Abe,

Collosians is in the list of disputed Pauline Epistles, so, do you have any other supporting scripture which states that Jesus was the firstborn, before creation?

Quote wikipedia on Colossians:

Increasingly, critical scholars ascribe the epistle to an early follower writing as Paul. The epistle's description of Christ as pre-eminent over creation marks it, for some scholars, as representing an advanced christology not present during Paul's lifetime.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colossians

[2besee]

Abe, I believe that the word in John  1:1 was God's spoken word and spirit, the one God, not another God/god.

Jesus being the image of God I believe is because Jesus was the second Adam, perfect though, because He never sinned. Therefore the image of God.

What do you think?
I need to go back and catch up on some of your earlier posts

[2besee]

Adam was made in the image of God.
Jesus was the “second Adam”.

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