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Hi all,
This passage created mess among Christian believers. The so called pre-existence of Jesus was meant by this passage can never make any difference who believes God alone can be the creator if at all He created this universe. Christianity wants Jesus to be the co-creator so that they can make God. Is this not another polytheism which was created by the N.T writers?Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 01 2010,16:54) Quote (shimmer @ Aug. 31 2010,23:13) Mike, No, according to Gene, Marty, Barley and all they are right, According to Hermas, which used to be considered cannon The parable of the Field
The son of God is the Holy Spirit, the son was made to dwell in human flesh, the man Jesus, then Jesus became co-heir with the son,
https://heavennet.net/cgi-bin….y262056
I believe this,
That's very nice Shimmer.You answered “NO”. Okay, then tell me how BOTH of the words at the end of Col 1:16 could possibly mean “for”. One of them can mean “for”, but then the other HAS TO MEAN either “by” or “through” or “by means of”, etc.
Which is it?
mike
YLT has ….all things through him, and for him, have been created,In Hermas, all things were created through and for the son, but the son in Hermas is the Holy Spirit.
In Hermas,
The son (Holy Spirit) dwelt in Jesus (The Man),
The flesh was subject to the Holy Spirit
The flesh laboured and co-operated with the Spirit
The flesh walked religiously, chastely, excellently, purely,
The flesh was found without spot or defilement
The flesh for reward was made co-heir with the son.Quote (shimmer @ Sep. 01 2010,21:28) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 01 2010,16:54) Quote (shimmer @ Aug. 31 2010,23:13) Mike, No, according to Gene, Marty, Barley and all they are right, According to Hermas, which used to be considered cannon The parable of the Field
The son of God is the Holy Spirit, the son was made to dwell in human flesh, the man Jesus, then Jesus became co-heir with the son,
https://heavennet.net/cgi-bin….y262056
I believe this,
That's very nice Shimmer.You answered “NO”. Okay, then tell me how BOTH of the words at the end of Col 1:16 could possibly mean “for”. One of them can mean “for”, but then the other HAS TO MEAN either “by” or “through” or “by means of”, etc.
Which is it?
mike
YLT has ….all things through him, and for him, have been created,In Hermas, all things were created through and for the son, but the son in Hermas is the Holy Spirit.
Hi Shimmer,I agree with YLT. All things were created through him. How then is it that he didn't pre-exist his flesh if all things, including things of the flesh, came to be through him?
As far as you Hermas beliefs: If the Son Jesus actually was the holy spirit dwelling in the flesh, then how could Jesus say he would send a different comforter, meaning the spirit? How could the scripture say,
Luke 10:21 NIV
At that time Jesus, full of joy through the Holy Spirit, said, “I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children. Yes, Father, for this was your good pleasure.There are many more scriptures that clearly show the holy spirit being something other than Jesus, such as this one,
Luke 12:10
And everyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven.I'm tired now, but if you like, we can examine some scriptures where Jesus as the Son and the holy spirit are in the same context as two different things.
mike
mike
Bump for Gene
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 01 2010,01:56) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 31 2010,11:44) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 30 2010,16:40) Hey Gene, Did you ever figure out how the last part of 16, which says, “all things were created by him, and for him”, could really mean “for him and for him”? This is the whole reason I posted this Colossians passage before a couple of others that I really wanted to post first.
I want you to see that things were created “by” or “through” Jesus. Do you see that yet?
mike
bump for Gene and Martian and Marty and barley
Mike ………..If all things were created (BY) Jesus. Then GOD is a lier and deceiving us . Notice MikeIsa 44:24….> Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, (I) an the LORD that (MAKES ALL THINGS; THAT STRETCHES FORTH THE HEAVENS, (ALONE); that spreads abroad the earth (BY MYSELF).
Now Mike what part of that you don't understand and thwre many other scriptures that say the same thing , But you along with the other Preexistences push a false concept the Jesus Created everything saying everything was created (BY) Jesus. Then when challenges you resort to say GOD did it (THROUGH) Jesus, But as i have Posted GOD takes full credit for all creation (ALONE) and said He did it BY HIMSELF> so you are asking us to reject scriptures that show God (ALONE and BY HIMSELF) did it by excepting words you use that can be translated many way as any concordance will show.
Mike you preexistences and the Trinitarians are both in the same boat of deception brother. IMO
peace and love to you and yours……………………..gene
Hi Gene,I myself never cared for the rendering of the word “by”. I think those verses ALWAYS mean “by means of” or “through”, so don't put words in my mouth. Didn't you even read what I just posted to JA after he said Jesus created everything? How then can you turn right around and say something like this to me?
And for the 20th time, when God said those words through Isaiah, many people were living. We know that God ALONE created all of them, because He said so. But could it be that He alone created them THROUGH their parents?
YES or NO GENE.
And please, please, please answer the purple question above with a direct answer. I'm getting tired of asking the same questions over and over just for you to ignore them over and over.
mike
Mike ……..What you and the rest of Preexistences do is fail to apply the Old Testament to you dogmas if you did you would have no problem understanding who created everything and (ALONE and BY HIMSELF). You preexistences believe GOD did it (THROUGH) Jesus but not one scripture show Jesus Creating anything , but many say GOD did , that alone should cause you some concern, so you come up with this (CO-CREATION) ideas , pure hogwash. that is all you Preexistences and Trinitarians do is (SEPARATE) Jesus' identity with us and this is the Spirit of the Antichrist, mentioned by John and creates a (IMAGE) of the Man of SIN, Taking GOD Glory and giving it to another is a SIN Mike it is a LIE, 2Ths 2 , And it is against Jesus Christ, who never did that or ever said He created anything at all. You are on dangerous ground Brother. IMO.
peace and love to you and yours…………………………..gene
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 04 2010,03:25) You preexistences believe GOD did it (THROUGH) Jesus but not one scripture show Jesus Creating anything , but many say GOD did , that alone should cause you some concern, so you come up with this (CO-CREATION) ideas , pure hogwash.
Gene,Scripture says God created everything alone, but it says He did it THROUGH Jesus.
Did God create you THROUGH your parents or not, Gene?
mike
Quote (gollamudi @ Sep. 01 2010,21:05) Hi all,
This passage created mess among Christian believers. The so called pre-existence of Jesus was meant by this passage can never make any difference who believes God alone can be the creator if at all He created this universe. Christianity wants Jesus to be the co-creator so that they can make God. Is this not another polytheism which was created by the N.T writers?
Hi goll,Please answer the question I asked Gene above. Thanks.
mike
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 05 2010,14:34) Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 04 2010,03:25) You preexistences believe GOD did it (THROUGH) Jesus but not one scripture show Jesus Creating anything , but many say GOD did , that alone should cause you some concern, so you come up with this (CO-CREATION) ideas , pure hogwash.
Gene,Scripture says God created everything alone, but it says He did it THROUGH Jesus.
Did God create you THROUGH your parents or not, Gene?
mike
Mike……..Rather God did it by forming me with Clay as in the Case of Adam or pulling a rib out of someone , or forming me in a womb, is irrelevant , it still is GOD alone and by himself who is creating and doing it. My question to you is why do you try so hard to give GODS Glory to a Man (Jesus). Jesus certainly did not do that now did he? You are only half way out of those false teachings Mike , it is time to come all the way out brother. Mike we haven't even began to bring out all the teaching that go against the persistence teachings yet why is that? Like where Moses said God would bring forth a Prophet like Him from brethren His fellow Israelites.Act 3:22 …> FOR MOSES truly said unto the fathers, A Prophet shall the Lord your GOD raise up unto you (OF) or (FROM) YOUR BRETHREN, LIKE UNTO ME.
Now where did Jesus come from (HIS BRETHREN THE JEWS). Do any of you see He came from any where else. So who started the false teaching he came from another place? The Catholic church and Greek and Roman Pagans. IMO
peace and love…………………..gene
peace and love…………………….gene
Quote (gollamudi @ Sep. 02 2010,05:05) Hi all,
This passage created mess among Christian believers. The so called pre-existence of Jesus was meant by this passage can never make any difference who believes God alone can be the creator if at all He created this universe. Christianity wants Jesus to be the co-creator so that they can make God. Is this not another polytheism which was created by the N.T writers?
Hello Adam,Do you believe any Scriptures?
Col 1:15-16 is not saying that Jesus is God. It says that he is the firstborn of all creation, then God, thru him created everything.
You are right for the people that believe in Jesus as God it would be polytheistic…however, these verses don't say that.
2Ti 3:16 All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness;
2Ti 3:17 so that the man of God may be adequate, equipped for every good work.
Hi Gene,
Mike:
Quote Did God create you THROUGH your parents or not, Gene? Gene:
Quote Mike……..Rather God did it by forming me with Clay as in the Case of Adam or pulling a rib out of someone , or forming me in a womb, is irrelevant , it still is GOD alone and by himself who is creating and doing it.
That's exactly what I believe, Gene. Not so much the “irrelevant” part, but the part where God alone caused everything to exist…..BUT He chose to do it THROUGH other entities. You brought up a good point: God ALONE created Eve, but He did it THROUGH Adam. Does Adam get the credit for creating Eve? Of course not, for God ALONE did it. Does Jesus get the credit for creating the heavens and the earth? Of course not, but scripture says God did it THROUGH him.Now, are you going to DIRECTLY answer my question above…..or not?
Gene:
Quote My question to you is why do you try so hard to give GODS Glory to a Man (Jesus).
I have NEVER done that Gene. God has His own glory, which He will share with NO ONE. And I even rail against those who would translate John 17:5 as “glorify me now with the glory I SHARED with you…..” The words don't say “shared”, nor could they, or it would contradict other scripture.It is not giving God's glory to your parents to say God chose to create you THROUGH them, is it? Then why would you think Jesus would receive any of God's glory because God chose to create THROUGH him?
You quoted Acts,
NIV Act 3:22
For Moses said, ‘The Lord your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among your own people; you must listen to everything he tells you.What about it? Scripture says that Jesus would be the “branch of David”, right? But you ignore the fact that scripture also says Jesus was the “root of David”. How can that be? Jesus asked your fellow non-believers that same thing Gene,
Matt 22 NIV
41While the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them, 42″What do you think about the Christ? Whose son is he?”
“The son of David,” they replied.
43He said to them, “How is it then that David, speaking by the Spirit, calls him 'Lord'? For he says,
44″ 'The Lord said to my Lord:
“Sit at my right hand
until I put your enemies
under your feet.” ' 45If then David calls him 'Lord,' how can he be his son?” 46No one could say a word in reply, and from that day on no one dared to ask him any more questions.Please DIRECTLY answer my question about your parents Gene, instead of saying it isn't relevant.
Thanks,
mikeQuote (gollamudi @ Sep. 01 2010,21:05) Hi all,
This passage created mess among Christian believers. The so called pre-existence of Jesus was meant by this passage can never make any difference who believes God alone can be the creator if at all He created this universe. Christianity wants Jesus to be the co-creator so that they can make God. Is this not another polytheism which was created by the N.T writers?
Goll.Are you a believer?
Do you believe that Jesus is the son of God.
Do you believe that he existed with divine nature, emptied himself, existed with human nature, was obedient, died, rose again, and is seated at the right-hand of the Father in the glory that he had with him before the world begun?Mike……What you are not seeing is that this teaching does not just stop where you think it does but goes beyond that , it is used to give Jesus a standing along side God himself, as a completely different human being then we are it breaks our (exact) identity with Jesus as a fellow human being. You say God created Eve (through) Adam is false GOD Created EVE from DNA which He created in the first place in ADAM. So He simply took some of that and made a Women, and that process has been repeated over and over through conception and fertilization processes< it is all a ongoing process. God is not doing it "Through" his creation but doing it (IN) his creation. There it say all flesh is ONE Flesh. All man kind is an extension of One MAN (ADAM) carried out by ONE GOD in and through all.
Now with that said………..Jesus had his Beginning in this process (egg fertilization) in a women just as we do. He is from the root DNA (linage) of David a JEW, and is He is also a Branch of the house of David, David had many branches Jesus is Just one of them.
Saying Jesus was separate from David's linage and roots by saying that David called him Lord is not saying he is not of the House of David nor His roots the tribe of Judah, as you suppose it is saying. King David's roots were through the tribe of Judah so was Jesus' roots. Scripture says He came to His OWN , own what clam or tribe. In short Jesus was a Jew from the house or linage of David. He is of the roots and the branch of David. Jesus by mention that was just asking How could he be a linage son of David and HOW could this be was the question , it had nothing to do with His preexistence State as a Being. But his Preexistent Status in the Plan of GOD , God had already chose Jesus before the foundation of the Word to be the Messiah and the Lord of David, David full well understood this by the revelation from GOD in Prophesy.
Rev 22: 16………> I JESUS have sent mine messenger (JOHN) to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the ROOT AND OFFSPRING OF DAVID, and the bright and morning star.
also see Rev 22:9….> for further proof.
peace and love to you and yours………………………….gene
Gene,
Gen 2:21 So the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon the man, and he slept; then He took one of his ribs and closed up the flesh at that place.
It seems fairly clear that YHWH Elohim was performing an actual operation…..anesthesia, cutting him open, removing a rib, closing him up.
Gen 2:22 The LORD God fashioned into a woman the rib which He had taken from the man, and brought her to the man.
And if you were confused on whether God was “cloning” Adam from DNA it repeats that YHWH Elohim fashioned her from the rib and not DNA.
Phil 2:6-8 says that Jesus emptied/vacated his godly form and took on a humanly form.
Your description of egg fertilization is correct and that is how the Holy Spirit performed the “operation” of implanting Jesus' spirit into Mary's egg. (Mike, there was no “lesbian” action going on as you asked me about.)
By retaining his spirit and putting him into Mary is how Jesus can be the son of God as well as son of Man/Mary/David/Abraham.
There are three genealogies given for Jesus, #1 thru God, #2 thru Mary #3 thru Joseph.
Jesus is our Lord by being our Creator and our Savior. God is LORD by definition and in Name….YHWH God (Elohim).
Notice how Rev 22:16 identifies BOTH aspects of Jesus: son of Man (David) and son of God (bright morning star).
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 06 2010,12:01) Jesus by mention that was just asking How could he be a linage son of David and HOW could this be was the question , it had nothing to do with His preexistence State as a Being.
I'm not sure what you're saying Gene, but Matt 22 was Jesus explaining that he was before David. Just like he told them he was before Abraham.How many sciptures will you mutilate Gene? How many different ways must Jesus and others explain that he pre-existed?
You are truly blinded, brother.
mike
Mike………….I noticed you did no commit on scriptures i posted in revelations, that Show Jesus still claims His roots and linage from David, not from some preexisting source as you presume. Why would Jesus still used that as His origins in revelation if that was not the case. Get it?.
You have Yet to produce (ONE) Scripture that says Jesus existed as a (BEING) before His berth on earth. Taking scripture and forcing it to say what you want it to is not being Honest Mike. Your confusing Jesus saying He was (ahead or before) in the Plan and Will of GOD before Abraham or David existed, with Him actually existing as a real Being before his berth. Haven't you every thought it odd that Jesus never every used the words saying He was alive as a PREEXISTING BEING or ANOTHER KIND OF BEING Prior to his berth and No other Apostle said that either. The closest thing to any mention of Jesus' preexistence was by the Apostle Peter, Who said He was (FOREORDAINED), that means (fore) planned by God (BUT) was Manifested (BROUGHT INTO EXISTENCE) in OUR TIME. I notice you people don't consider what Peter was saying, Why did not Peter simply say Jesus was alive before his earthly experience and was reborn in Mary, if that was the case. No other Apostle ever said He did either why is that Mike?, could it be He simply did not preexist? Jesus never said He was alive before his berth if so where is it, why use words like before Abraham i am and why would He say Abraham looked (forward) to Jesus' day, Why not Say Abraham saw me and talked to me, why say He looked (FORWARD) when as you preexistences say he already existed, what was he looking forward to them when Jesus was already there. Why would Jesus not say He talked with Abraham then? We haven't even deviled into the reasons why GOD would (MORPH) a Being and reproduce Him as a Human Being in the first Place and then pass him off as a pure human being when in fact he would have been a disguised preexisting being.
Was God perfecting Man or a PREEXISTENCE BEING, who already was perfect in the first place?, and if so what does that have to do with US. You as all preexistence are the ones that are destroying the work of GOD in Mankind. and even more you are destroying the work of the MAN Jesus, the (FIRST MAN) TO OVERCOME AND BE RESURRECTED and GIVEN ETERNAL LIFE FROM THE DEAD FROM MANKIND. Preexistences are indeed Antichrist and not only that they are Against the work of GOD himself (IN) Mankind. They have separated Jesus from their EXACT IDENTITY and therefore they have separated themselves from HIM. IMO
Mike Pulling little parts of Posts and trying to confuse what the overall context of the post is exactly what you are dong with the Words of Paul and Others wrote it is the way preexistences force the text to fit their corruption of scriptures. Trinitarians and Preexistences are Both One and the same. Thy both are Antichrists. Saying I am Blind when in fact you preexistences are is quite laughable to me Mike.
peace and love……………………….gene
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 07 2010,01:58) Mike………….I noticed you did no commit on scriptures i posted in revelations, that Show Jesus still claims His roots and linage from David, not from some preexisting source as you presume. Why would Jesus still used that as His origins in revelation if that was not the case. Get it?.
Hi Gene,It is YOU that doesn't “get it”. Scripture doesn't say Jesus' “roots are FROM David”…..it says Jesus IS THE ROOT OF DAVID.
In other words, Jesus was BEFORE David, and then later, he became the BRANCH of David, which means he was AFTER David as far as the flesh.
It is so easy, and if you would take off the blinders, you would immediately see it.
mike
MIke ……….Quite twisting Scriptures, it says I (Jesus) Am the ROOT (AND) OFFSPRING of DAVID. Evidently you do not know what the word (OF) means, it Means (FROM) . Jesus is plainly saying He is from the same Roots and Offspring of DAVID. If i said I am Gene of California , would you think i meant i am Gene who California is From. Come on Mike surely you understand this, is the Spirit (OF) GOD FROM GOD? Yes it is Mike. Root of David is referring to the LINAGE of DAVID and Jesus was from the same Linage and He also was Davids offspring to. Same Root Stock and as well as a offspring of DAVID both things. Davids roots were from the Jews and Jesus was a Jew and Jesus he had Jewish roots and was the Offspring of King David also. He is of the same ROOT stock and also and Offspring of David.
If you believe Jesus is the ROOT that David came through Post it with proof, not some forced text you try to make it say that with
Peace and love………………………………gene
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 03 2010,16:32) Quote (shimmer @ Sep. 01 2010,21:28) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 01 2010,16:54) Quote (shimmer @ Aug. 31 2010,23:13) Mike, No, according to Gene, Marty, Barley and all they are right, According to Hermas, which used to be considered cannon The parable of the Field
The son of God is the Holy Spirit, the son was made to dwell in human flesh, the man Jesus, then Jesus became co-heir with the son,
https://heavennet.net/cgi-bin….y262056
I believe this,
That's very nice Shimmer.You answered “NO”. Okay, then tell me how BOTH of the words at the end of Col 1:16 could possibly mean “for”. One of them can mean “for”, but then the other HAS TO MEAN either “by” or “through” or “by means of”, etc.
Which is it?
mike
YLT has ….all things through him, and for him, have been created,In Hermas, all things were created through and for the son, but the son in Hermas is the Holy Spirit.
Hi Shimmer,I agree with YLT. All things were created through him. How then is it that he didn't pre-exist his flesh if all things, including things of the flesh, came to be through him?
As far as you Hermas beliefs: If the Son Jesus actually was the holy spirit dwelling in the flesh, then how could Jesus say he would send a different comforter, meaning the spirit? How could the scripture say,
Luke 10:21 NIV
At that time Jesus, full of joy through the Holy Spirit, said, “I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children. Yes, Father, for this was your good pleasure.There are many more scriptures that clearly show the holy spirit being something other than Jesus, such as this one,
Luke 12:10
And everyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven.I'm tired now, but if you like, we can examine some scriptures where Jesus as the Son and the holy spirit are in the same context as two different things.
mike
mike
Hi Mike,The sheppard of Hermas was one of the most read books by Christians thousands of years ago, it was included in cannon or something,
In it, there are two sons of God, one is The Holy Spirit, the other was MADE co-heir and that was the MAN Jesus, read it and you may understand what I'm saying, it's not me who say's it, it's the Sheppard of Hermas.
The Holy Spirit (or son of God) worked through Jesus,
Also,
” Everyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven.” see….son of man (Jesus) and Holy Spirit…two thing's.I don't know, just what I was reading ?
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 06 2010,12:01) Mike……What you are not seeing is that this teaching does not just stop where you think it does but goes beyond that , it is used to give Jesus a standing along side God himself, as a completely different human being then we are it breaks our (exact) identity with Jesus as a fellow human being. You say God created Eve (through) Adam is false GOD Created EVE from DNA which He created in the first place in ADAM. So He simply took some of that and made a Women, and that process has been repeated over and over through conception and fertilization processes< it is all a ongoing process. God is not doing it "Through" his creation but doing it (IN) his creation. There it say all flesh is ONE Flesh. All man kind is an extension of One MAN (ADAM) carried out by ONE GOD in and through all. Now with that said………..Jesus had his Beginning in this process (egg fertilization) in a women just as we do. He is from the root DNA (linage) of David a JEW, and is He is also a Branch of the house of David, David had many branches Jesus is Just one of them.
Saying Jesus was separate from David's linage and roots by saying that David called him Lord is not saying he is not of the House of David nor His roots the tribe of Judah, as you suppose it is saying. King David's roots were through the tribe of Judah so was Jesus' roots. Scripture says He came to His OWN , own what clam or tribe. In short Jesus was a Jew from the house or linage of David. He is of the roots and the branch of David. Jesus by mention that was just asking How could he be a linage son of David and HOW could this be was the question , it had nothing to do with His preexistence State as a Being. But his Preexistent Status in the Plan of GOD , God had already chose Jesus before the foundation of the Word to be the Messiah and the Lord of David, David full well understood this by the revelation from GOD in Prophesy.
Rev 22: 16………> I JESUS have sent mine messenger (JOHN) to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the ROOT AND OFFSPRING OF DAVID, and the bright and morning star.
also see Rev 22:9….> for further proof.
peace and love to you and yours………………………….gene
Hi Gene,It is you (Gene) who finds the Bible FACTS troubling…
25%; Mary's mother's linage was of the tribe of Levi. (Luke 1:5, 1:36)
25%: Mary's father's lineage was through Nathan(son of David). (Luke 3:23-31)
50%: Joseph was NOT Jesus' Father; The HolySpirit was! (Matt.1:18 / Matt.1:20 / Luke 1:35)At birth: Jesus was 50% HolySpirit(God)(Matt.1:18 / Matt.1:20 / Luke 1:35), 25% Levite(Priest) and 25% Judah(King)!
At baptism by John the baptizer, Jesus was filled up with the “HolySpirit”(God) beyond measure! (John 3:34 / John 1:14)Luke 20:41-44 speaks of Jesus' lineage through his Father “HolySpirit”!
Luke 20:41-44 And he said unto them(others like Gene), How say they that Christ is David's son?
And David himself saith in the book of Psalms, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,
Till I make thine enemies thy footstool. David therefore calleth him Lord, how is he(Christ) then his(David's) son?Can you reconcile these two Scriptures together, I can!
John 5:31 If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true.
Jn.8:14 …Though I bear record of myself, yet my record is true…
Luke 10:30-37 is a parable of Jesus bearing record on his own behalf…Luke 10:30-37 And Jesus answering said, A certain man (Jesus) went down from Jerusalem to Jericho,
and fell among thieves, which stripped him of his raiment, and wounded him, and departed, leaving him half dead.
And by chance there came down a certain priest that way: and when he saw him, he passed by on the other side.
And likewise a Levite, when he was at the place, came and looked on him, and passed by on the other side.
But a certain Samaritan, as he journeyed, came where he was: and when he saw him, he had compassion on him,
And went to him, and bound up his wounds, pouring in oil and wine, and set him on his own beast, and brought him
to an inn, and took care of him. And on the morrow when he departed, he took out two pence, and gave them to
the host, and said unto him, Take care of him; and whatsoever thou spendest more, when I come again, I will
repay thee. Which now of these three, thinkest thou, was neighbour unto him that fell among the thieves?
And he said, He that shewed mercy on him. Then said Jesus unto him, Go, and do thou likewise.Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
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