Born and begotten

[NickHassan]

Hi MB,
Read you own post.
Search for THINK and I DO NOT TAKE LITERALLY

[terraricca]

nick

i believe that it is the amount of truth you live by that make you part of Gods and Christ kingdom
how much truth you think Christ lived by ?

i do believe that God and Christ can be with you.bless you,protect you,and teach you.and it could be that it is one of his angels he send

Pierre

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 06 2010,12:52)

Hi MB, Read you own post. Search for THINK and I DO NOT TAKE LITERALLY

Hi Nick,

How do you UNDERSTAND scriptures?  Take the shortest scripture, “Jesus wept.”  What do you THINK that means?  Do you THINK it should be TAKEN LITERALLY?  How about when the land “vomited out” the Israelites?  Do you THINK it should be TAKEN LITERALLY?

Are you seeing my point here?  Everyone has to apply their own understanding to what the words in the Bible are teaching.  Who are you to THINK your OWN THOUGHTS and ASSUMPTIONS are more valid than mine?  Who are you to tell me which phrases should be TAKEN LITERALLY?

My understanding is based on what I ASSUME the words mean.  Your understanding is based on what YOU ASSUME the words mean.

So once again:  SPECIFICALLY which thought, Nick?  And show me scripturally how that thought is wrong or pipe down.

mike

[GeneBalthrop]

Mike………. He can't show you (specifically or Scripturally either), Nick is always positioning himself as the only true source of understandings here. He does have good understanding about some things but other thing he is not even in the ball park IMO, He sit in his high tower and takes pop shots at others, don't let it get you down brother.

peace and love to you and yours……………………………gene

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 07 2010,13:46)

Mike………. He can't show you (specifically or Scripturally either), Nick is always positioning himself as the only true source of understandings here. He does have good understanding about some things but other thing he is not even in the ball park IMO, He sit in his high tower and takes pop shots at others, don't let it get you down brother. peace and love to you and yours……………………………gene

Hi Gene,

I learn alot from Nick. I'm sure we all do – if nothing else, patience and temper control!

And like you said, he is sharp. But that doesn't mean he knows everything……only Roo holds that position on HN.

peace and love,
mike

[Oxy]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 06 2010,14:42)

Hi MB, Thoughts and opinions are not relevant until they are found reflected in scripture……… several times.[2Cor13.1]

Nick, Scripture tells us that if everything Jesus said and did was recorded that there probably wouldn'y be enough books to contain it, so why do you limit God to the contents of the Bible? God is way bigger than that!

[NickHassan]

Hi Oxy,
That is an OUT to justify every kind of deception.
The Spirit REMINDS US of the words of Jesus.
No new teaching but revelation of what is given

[Oxy]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 07 2010,19:41)

Hi Oxy, That is an OUT to justify every kind of deception. The Spirit REMINDS US of the words of Jesus. No new teaching but revelation of what is given

Just to clarify, are you saying that the Holy Spirit can't say anything that is written in Scripture Nick?

[NickHassan]

Hi Oxy,
jn.16.12-14

[NickHassan]

Hi Oxy,
The testimony of Jesus is the Spirit of prophecy[rev19]
The Spirit of Christ inspired the prophets.[1peter1.10-13]

[Oxy]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 07 2010,19:48)

Hi Oxy, jn.16.12-14

That's exactly my point Nick, the Spirit has borne witness to the things the Lord has taught me.

[NickHassan]

Hi Oxy,
It is not all about you.
God has given us His word and enlivens it to those who share it.

[RokkaMan]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 07 2010,20:45)

Hi Oxy, It is not all about you. God has given us His word and enlivens it to those who share it.

So why charge against Oxy for sharing what has been revealed to him?

[NickHassan]

Hi RM,
The Spirit does not teach of His own initiative.
Test all things and hold fast to what is good.

[RokkaMan]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 08 2010,05:26)

Hi RM, The Spirit does not teach of His own initiative. Test all things and hold fast to what is good.

Yes it does, because the spirit IS GOD!

So it teaches the things of God.

Speculation will get you no where Nick.

[NickHassan]

Hi RM,
You work from a theology base and argue with scripture.
jn16.13-14

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Oxy @ July 07 2010,20:08)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 07 2010,19:48) Hi Oxy, jn.16.12-14 That's exactly my point Nick, the Spirit has borne witness to the things the Lord has taught me.

Hi Oxy,

Could you ask the spirit why Jesus says the Father is the only true God, when Jesus and the Holy Spirit are also God?

Can you ask the spirit for me why the 3 in 1 godhead is NEVER mentioned in scripture? Tell the spirit that I am confused as to why something this significant isn't mentioned in a clear way so we can all know to worship all three like you do.

Thanks,
mike

[GeneBalthrop]

To All……….Howbeit ,when the comforter comes , which is the Spirit of truth, comes it will not speak of its own initiative, but whatsoever it hears that will it speak. Spirit of GOD is (INTELLECT) from God and gives understanding into the mind and reveals truth to our minds enabling us to percieve the truth. Spirit does not speak audibly, it reveals truth in our minds, it cause us to speak it is the minds intellect and forms our thoughts. It takes it's place at the core of our Being. Those who have GOD'S Holy Spirit (IN) them are Godly minded.

peace and love to you all………………………..gene

[Oxy]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 07 2010,22:45)

Hi Oxy, It is not all about you. God has given us His word and enlivens it to those who share it.

Nick, I, as a servant of the Most High, am fully aware that it's not about me. I don't know why you would think that I would think that way. You do come out with some funny stuff Nick.

[Oxy]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 09 2010,14:52)

Quote (Oxy @ July 07 2010,20:08) Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 07 2010,19:48) Hi Oxy, jn.16.12-14 That's exactly my point Nick, the Spirit has borne witness to the things the Lord has taught me. Hi Oxy,   Could you ask the spirit why Jesus says the Father is the only true God, when Jesus and the Holy Spirit are also God? Can you ask the spirit for me why the 3 in 1 godhead is NEVER mentioned in scripture?  Tell the spirit that I am confused as to why something this significant isn't mentioned in a clear way so we can all know to worship all three like you do. Thanks, mike

Mike, I can only share with you what I have sharted before.. a number of times. Can you answer this question for me, then we can move on.

Do you have a body?
Do you have a soul?
Do you have a spirit?

Answer this for me and we will go to the next stage.

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