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Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 09 2012,11:07) Mike……..You denial that Jesus was tempted in all thing even as we are, is not scriptural.
I don't think anyone on this thread has ever denied that Jesus was tempted, Gene. I know I haven't.We're trying to get you to tell us WHO tempted Jesus in the wilderness. Was he offered the kingdoms of the world by the “adversarial spirit dwelling within himself”? Does that really make sense to you?
Plus, you still haven't DIRECTLY told me who Jehovah asked, “Where have you come from?” in Job 1.
Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 10 2012,02:49) G Quote When it comes to Humanity I see Jesus exactly as i see myself a 100% human being born from DNA through a Women , rather God Manipulated that DNA to Meet what he wanted Jesus to Look like is irrelevant he still came into “BEING” as a Flesh being. 100% DNA of man means that the father and mother are humans so you believe Christ was Joseph son right
?
T;Did Adam have 100% human DNA?
Did he have a mother?
Did he have a father?
Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 10 2012,17:31) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 10 2012,02:49) G Quote When it comes to Humanity I see Jesus exactly as i see myself a 100% human being born from DNA through a Women , rather God Manipulated that DNA to Meet what he wanted Jesus to Look like is irrelevant he still came into “BEING” as a Flesh being. 100% DNA of man means that the father and mother are humans so you believe Christ was Joseph son right
?
T;Did Adam have 100% human DNA?
Did he have a mother?
Did he have a father?
KWE ARE NO LONGER AT STEP ONE ,SO YOU CAN NOT USE THAT EXCUSE OTHER WISE JESUS MOTHER ADD TO BE TAKEN OUT OF A MAN S RIB,
STOP CHASING THE WIND ;UNLESS JESUS HIS THE SON OF GOD AND CAME DOWN FROM HEAVEN AND WAS PLACED IN MARY WOMB AND SO RECEIVED FLESH AND BECAME ONE LIKE US BUT NOT TOTALLY A HUMAN BECAUSE HIS TRUE FATHER HIS GOD ALMIGHTY ,WHAT NONE OF US CAN CLAIM EXCEPT ADAM AND HE IS LONG GONE ,THIS IS WHY JESUS IS CALLED THE SECOND ADAM
AND TELL HOW COULD CHRIST BE 100% HUMAN WHEN HE HAS ONLY ONE PART OF HUMAN SOURCE
THE OTHER SOURCE COMES FROM HEAVEN RIGHT YES ,HIS FATHERT;
Do you believe Jehovah no longer works wonders?
* Scripture declares Mary conceived Jesus and therefore Jesus was conceived in Mary.
* Scripture declares Jesus is made of the seed of David, according to the flesh. Therefore Jesus flesh is made of Mary.
Jehovah foretold that he would give a sign; the wonder of Jesus' conception is that sign.
Isaiah 7:14
King James Version (KJV)14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.
You instead teach that a virgin did not conceive but instead a child was implanted in her. Your words are not God's words.
Mary was the sole source of Jesus' genes though Jehovah obviously engineered them as he saw fit.
Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 10 2012,10:31) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 10 2012,02:49) G Quote When it comes to Humanity I see Jesus exactly as i see myself a 100% human being born from DNA through a Women , rather God Manipulated that DNA to Meet what he wanted Jesus to Look like is irrelevant he still came into “BEING” as a Flesh being. 100% DNA of man means that the father and mother are humans so you believe Christ was Joseph son right
?
T;Did Adam have 100% human DNA?
Did he have a mother?
Did he have a father?
Kerwin……….Brother i tell you they Just do not get it, They are simply the blind leading the B ling and they both are in a ditch groping at the walls They just do not realize it> Kerwin you love for truth has caused you to seek it earnestly and God is allowing you to see it. You are indeed studying to show YOURSELF approved unto God by rightly dividing the word of TRUTH>The beginning Point of this truth is to realize Jesus came into “EXISTENCE” at his BERTH on this EARTH and was a 100% human being, who recieved into Him the Spirit from ABOVE and did the will of the FATHER who is from above and was (IN) Jesus the “CHRISTOS” (THE ANOINTED ONE)> This Same anointing is (IN) all of God SAINTS even NOW on this earth> IMO
Peace and Love to you and yours Kerwin…………………………………gene
Hi Gene,
Any thoughts on why the disciples cured illnesses and cast out demons in Jesus name,
while Jesus just commanded them to come out (presumably in his own name)?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgk
Quote * Scripture declares Mary conceived Jesus and therefore Jesus was conceived in Mary. 
what a true respond ,but does it tell all the story for you it is enough that I can see ,SO THIS IS WERE IT ENDS FOR YOU,Quote * Scripture declares Jesus is made of the seed of David, according to the flesh. Therefore Jesus flesh is made of Mary.
THIS IS ONLY THE LINE OF MARY, THIS DOES NOT MEAN THAT SHE WAS JESUS TRUE MOTHER OR A SURROGATE ONE ;
BECAUSE YOU DID NOT ANSWER TO THE QUESTION ;WHO HIS HIS FATHER? UNTIL YOU ANSWER THAT QUESTION YOU WILL NEVER KNOW .BECAUSE THIS WOULD ALSO ANSWER THE QUESTION IF JESUS WAS 100% MAN (HUMAN)Quote Jehovah foretold that he would give a sign; the wonder of Jesus' conception is that sign. TELL ME HOW MANY PEOPLE DID KNOW THAT WHAT MARY CARRIED IN HER WOMB WAS THE SIGN
14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name ImmanuelAND TELL ME HOW MANY DID SEE THE SIGNS AND MIRACLES THAT JESUS DID IN THE NAME OF HIS FATHER
?Quote You instead teach that a virgin did not conceive but instead a child was implanted in her. Your words are not God's words. UNTIL RESENTLY THE TEST TUBE BABYS DID NOT EXIST OR COULD BE DONE ;BUT YOU STILL DO NOT ANSWER THE QUESTION WHO HIS JESUS FATHER
BEING A SURROGATE MOTHER DOES NOT TAKE AWAY THE CONCEPTION IDEA FROM THE FIRST CENTURY ,OR MAKE MARY MORE OR LESS JONG MAIDEN OR VIRGIN.
Quote Mary was the sole source of Jesus' genes though Jehovah obviously engineered them as he saw fit. THIS IS A CHEAP ANSWER FOR THE DUMB ,OR THE ONES THAT HAVE NO UNDERSTANDING IN SCRIPTURES ,
1) NO MAN HAS NEVER BEEN BORN WITH ONE GENE ONLY ;BUT MANY TEST TUBE BAY'S HAVE BEEN BORN IN THE PAST 50 YEARS LIKE MILLIONS,(COMMON PRACTICE TODAY)
2)YES GOD INGENEERED THE TRANSFER FROM “THE WORD ” HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON AND PLACE HIM IN MARY WOMB AND SO TOOK THE COVER OF FLESH ,THIS IS A WONDER .
IT SEEMS THAT THE DEMONS KNOW MORE AND BETTER THAN YOU;
LK 4:34 “Let us alone! What business do we have with each other, Jesus of Nazareth? Have You come to destroy us? I know who You are— the Holy One of God!”
LK 4:35 But Jesus rebuked him, saying, “Be quiet and come out of him!” And when the demon had thrownLK 8:27 And when He came out onto the land, He was met by a man from the city who was possessed with demons; and who had not put on any clothing for a long time, and was not living in a house, but in the tombs.
LK 8:28 Seeing Jesus, he cried out and fell before Him, and said in a loud voice, “ What business do we have with each other, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? I beg You, do not torment me.”
LK 8:29 For He had commanded the unclean spirit to come out of the man. For it had seized him many times; and he was bound with chains and shackles and kept under guard, and yet he would break his bonds and be driven by the demon into the desert.
LK 8:30 And Jesus asked him, “What is your name?” And he said, “ Legion”; for many demons had entered him.
LK 8:31 They were imploring Him not to command them to go away into the abyss.I STILL SAY YOU DO NOT KNOW EITHER CHRIST THE SON OF GOD NOR GOD ALMIGHY HIS FATHER .
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 11 2012,02:14) Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 10 2012,10:31) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 10 2012,02:49) G Quote When it comes to Humanity I see Jesus exactly as i see myself a 100% human being born from DNA through a Women , rather God Manipulated that DNA to Meet what he wanted Jesus to Look like is irrelevant he still came into “BEING” as a Flesh being. 100% DNA of man means that the father and mother are humans so you believe Christ was Joseph son right
?
T;Did Adam have 100% human DNA?
Did he have a mother?
Did he have a father?
Kerwin……….Brother i tell you they Just do not get it, They are simply the blind leading the B ling and they both are in a ditch groping at the walls They just do not realize it> Kerwin you love for truth has caused you to seek it earnestly and God is allowing you to see it. You are indeed studying to show YOURSELF approved unto God by rightly dividing the word of TRUTH>The beginning Point of this truth is to realize Jesus came into “EXISTENCE” at his BERTH on this EARTH and was a 100% human being, who recieved into Him the Spirit from ABOVE and did the will of the FATHER who is from above and was (IN) Jesus the “CHRISTOS” (THE ANOINTED ONE)> This Same anointing is (IN) all of God SAINTS even NOW on this earth> IMO
Peace and Love to you and yours Kerwin…………………………………gene
GeneB.You are doing satan a great favour,and at the same time praising God?
REv.13:2. —-AND THE DRAGON GAVE HIM –HIS– POWER,AND HIS SEAT,AND GREAT AUTHORITY
The evil in me has a seat(throne)? and power and authority?
The evil in me will be locked up for a 1000yrs?.then released?
Are we all dragons?wakeup.
wakeup.
T,
Conceived does not mean carry in a woman’s womb. It means that a child comes to be. It is the female form of beget according to ancient Greeks.
John the Baptist rebuked those coming to him declaring God can make children for Abraham out of the stones. Whose fleshly sire is a rock’s?
The sign of the virgin whom conceives a child and births it is given to those Jehovah chooses to.
Do you understand what it is to be the son of the spirit?
Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 11 2012,03:24) Hi Gene, Any thoughts on why the disciples cured illnesses and cast out demons in Jesus name,
while Jesus just commanded them to come out (presumably in his own name)?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDJ………power was given them to do that and even Jesus' Powers were all given him all BY GOD the FATHER. Jesus had a full understanding of what was given him (ALL AUTHORITY both in heaven and on the earth was PLACED (IN) his hands, and He know that. Jesus understood that and those POWERS were tested .God Tested him to see how he would use those Powers, remember it was the Spirit of God that led him out into the wilderness, not a “SATAN” Being , His trial was from within himself , he had to MASTER that PROPENSITY within him as it is with in all human nature.
Jesus was very hungry after 40 days and nights without food , he had a “desire” to turn those rocks into food and he could have becasue all power was given him and he know it, but by the Spirit of God in Him (IT) brought to mind Gods word and he chose to “OBEY” Gods Word, the same with all the rest of the temptations, Jesus MASTER HIMSELF his own human nature and therefore over came by the Spirit of GOD (IN) HIM.
His trial was a great example for all of mankind becasue it shows us that with God we can overcome even our own human nature and live according to the words of God the Father,with his Spirit (IN) us. IMO
Peace and love to you and yours……………………………………gene
Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 11 2012,18:30) Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 11 2012,02:14) Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 10 2012,10:31) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 10 2012,02:49) G Quote When it comes to Humanity I see Jesus exactly as i see myself a 100% human being born from DNA through a Women , rather God Manipulated that DNA to Meet what he wanted Jesus to Look like is irrelevant he still came into “BEING” as a Flesh being. 100% DNA of man means that the father and mother are humans so you believe Christ was Joseph son right
?
T;Did Adam have 100% human DNA?
Did he have a mother?
Did he have a father?
Kerwin……….Brother i tell you they Just do not get it, They are simply the blind leading the B ling and they both are in a ditch groping at the walls They just do not realize it> Kerwin you love for truth has caused you to seek it earnestly and God is allowing you to see it. You are indeed studying to show YOURSELF approved unto God by rightly dividing the word of TRUTH>The beginning Point of this truth is to realize Jesus came into “EXISTENCE” at his BERTH on this EARTH and was a 100% human being, who recieved into Him the Spirit from ABOVE and did the will of the FATHER who is from above and was (IN) Jesus the “CHRISTOS” (THE ANOINTED ONE)> This Same anointing is (IN) all of God SAINTS even NOW on this earth> IMO
Peace and Love to you and yours Kerwin…………………………………gene
GeneB.You are doing satan a great favour,and at the same time praising God?
REv.13:2. —-AND THE DRAGON GAVE HIM –HIS– POWER,AND HIS SEAT,AND GREAT AUTHORITY
The evil in me has a seat(throne)? and power and authority?
The evil in me will be locked up for a 1000yrs?.then released?
Are we all dragons?wakeup.
wakeup.
Wkaeup……….What you have said makes no sense to me. As far as us being EVIL , Why not just believe what Jesus Said, if you being evil (existing in an evil state), know how to give good gifts , how much more will not God given them of the Spirit that ask.peace and love to you and yours………………………………………gene
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 12 2012,03:00) Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 11 2012,18:30) Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 11 2012,02:14) Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 10 2012,10:31) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 10 2012,02:49) G Quote When it comes to Humanity I see Jesus exactly as i see myself a 100% human being born from DNA through a Women , rather God Manipulated that DNA to Meet what he wanted Jesus to Look like is irrelevant he still came into “BEING” as a Flesh being. 100% DNA of man means that the father and mother are humans so you believe Christ was Joseph son right
?
T;Did Adam have 100% human DNA?
Did he have a mother?
Did he have a father?
Kerwin……….Brother i tell you they Just do not get it, They are simply the blind leading the B ling and they both are in a ditch groping at the walls They just do not realize it> Kerwin you love for truth has caused you to seek it earnestly and God is allowing you to see it. You are indeed studying to show YOURSELF approved unto God by rightly dividing the word of TRUTH>The beginning Point of this truth is to realize Jesus came into “EXISTENCE” at his BERTH on this EARTH and was a 100% human being, who recieved into Him the Spirit from ABOVE and did the will of the FATHER who is from above and was (IN) Jesus the “CHRISTOS” (THE ANOINTED ONE)> This Same anointing is (IN) all of God SAINTS even NOW on this earth> IMO
Peace and Love to you and yours Kerwin…………………………………gene
GeneB.You are doing satan a great favour,and at the same time praising God?
REv.13:2. —-AND THE DRAGON GAVE HIM –HIS– POWER,AND HIS SEAT,AND GREAT AUTHORITY
The evil in me has a seat(throne)? and power and authority?
The evil in me will be locked up for a 1000yrs?.then released?
Are we all dragons?wakeup.
wakeup.
Wkaeup……….What you have said makes no sense to me. As far as us being EVIL , Why not just believe what Jesus Said, if you being evil (existing in an evil state), know how to give good gifts , how much more will not God given them of the Spirit that ask.peace and love to you and yours………………………………………gene
GeneB.If a person does not live according to the true God;he is living according the false god,(satan) the god of this world system; the god of the material world: greed,envy,selfishness,get,get get; take,take,take; me,me,me; want,want,want; me first.
Mankind has been imputed with this spirit by lucifer, the ex cherub(satan);since the garden.
Here is a good one,and I like you to comment on this.
Zechariah 3:1.And he showed me Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of the Lord,and –SATAN STANDING AT HIS RIGHT HAND TO RESIST HIM.
2. And the Lord said unto –SATAN–;The Lord rebuke thee ,O SATAN;even the Lord that hath chosen Jerusalem rebuke –THEE–: is this not a brand plucked out of the fire?
please note: SATAN STANDING NEXT TO JOSHUA?
wakeup.
Good one, Wakeup. Here's another:
Jude 1:9
But even the archangel Michael, when he was disputing with the devil about the body of Moses, did not dare to bring a slanderous accusation against him, but said, “The Lord rebuke you!”Was Michael disputing with “the evil inside us all” about the body of Moses?
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 12 2012,05:26) Good one, Wakeup. Here's another: Jude 1:9
But even the archangel Michael, when he was disputing with the devil about the body of Moses, did not dare to bring a slanderous accusation against him, but said, “The Lord rebuke you!”Was Michael disputing with “the evil inside us all” about the body of Moses?
Mike B.Excellent.
wakeup.Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 12 2012,01:42) T, Conceived does not mean carry in a woman’s womb. It means that a child comes to be. It is the female form of beget according to ancient Greeks.
John the Baptist rebuked those coming to him declaring God can make children for Abraham out of the stones. Whose fleshly sire is a rock’s?
The sign of the virgin whom conceives a child and births it is given to those Jehovah chooses to.
Do you understand what it is to be the son of the spirit?
Kwhy do you answer my questions first then I will answer yours ,
you have turn Gods word to nothing with your opinions
Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 11 2012,18:42) T, Conceived does not mean carry in a woman’s womb. It means that a child comes to be. It is the female form of beget according to ancient Greeks.
John the Baptist rebuked those coming to him declaring God can make children for Abraham out of the stones. Whose fleshly sire is a rock’s?
The sign of the virgin whom conceives a child and births it is given to those Jehovah chooses to.
Do you understand what it is to be the son of the spirit?
Kerwin.You believe that God can turn stones into Abraham,I agree.
God can also turn his word into a person in an instant,you agree?
Why didnt he do that? Why did he have to come out of the womb?
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 12 2012,05:07) Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 12 2012,03:00) Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 11 2012,18:30) Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 11 2012,02:14) Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 10 2012,10:31) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 10 2012,02:49) G Quote When it comes to Humanity I see Jesus exactly as i see myself a 100% human being born from DNA through a Women , rather God Manipulated that DNA to Meet what he wanted Jesus to Look like is irrelevant he still came into “BEING” as a Flesh being. 100% DNA of man means that the father and mother are humans so you believe Christ was Joseph son right
?
T;Did Adam have 100% human DNA?
Did he have a mother?
Did he have a father?
Kerwin……….Brother i tell you they Just do not get it, They are simply the blind leading the B ling and they both are in a ditch groping at the walls They just do not realize it> Kerwin you love for truth has caused you to seek it earnestly and God is allowing you to see it. You are indeed studying to show YOURSELF approved unto God by rightly dividing the word of TRUTH>The beginning Point of this truth is to realize Jesus came into “EXISTENCE” at his BERTH on this EARTH and was a 100% human being, who recieved into Him the Spirit from ABOVE and did the will of the FATHER who is from above and was (IN) Jesus the “CHRISTOS” (THE ANOINTED ONE)> This Same anointing is (IN) all of God SAINTS even NOW on this earth> IMO
Peace and Love to you and yours Kerwin…………………………………gene
GeneB.You are doing satan a great favour,and at the same time praising God?
REv.13:2. —-AND THE DRAGON GAVE HIM –HIS– POWER,AND HIS SEAT,AND GREAT AUTHORITY
The evil in me has a seat(throne)? and power and authority?
The evil in me will be locked up for a 1000yrs?.then released?
Are we all dragons?wakeup.
wakeup.
Wkaeup……….What you have said makes no sense to me. As far as us being EVIL , Why not just believe what Jesus Said, if you being evil (existing in an evil state), know how to give good gifts , how much more will not God given them of the Spirit that ask.peace and love to you and yours………………………………………gene
GeneB.If a person does not live according to the true God;he is living according the false god,(satan) the god of this world system; the god of the material world: greed,envy,selfishness,get,get get; take,take,take; me,me,me; want,want,want; me first.
Mankind has been imputed with this spirit by lucifer, the ex cherub(satan);since the garden.
Here is a good one,and I like you to comment on this.
Zechariah 3:1.And he showed me Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of the Lord,and –SATAN STANDING AT HIS RIGHT HAND TO RESIST HIM.
2. And the Lord said unto –SATAN–;The Lord rebuke thee ,O SATAN;even the Lord that hath chosen Jerusalem rebuke –THEE–: is this not a brand plucked out of the fire?
please note: SATAN STANDING NEXT TO JOSHUA?
wakeup.
Wakeup …….A good scripture, But notice you are forcing the text to say what In FACT it is not saying you adding thought into it.Where does it say there that Satan is a Angel standing there, it says the Angel of the LORD was standing there “AND” a Ha-satan was there to accuse him. But nowhere there does it say Satan was a Angel also. That is what i call forcing the text to say what in fact it is not saying.
If you were correct the text would have read like this, “and the Angel Satan was standing there to accuse him” , but you see it simply does not say that, so why should i or you or anyone else for that matter Just “ASSUME” that is what the text meant. This is what all preexistences and Trinitarians do they force texts to meet their own ideas and concepts, but when it comes to Specifics, they produce no PROOF> Just Speculations. Even if they have to add words to the text to meet their dogmas. IMO
peace and love to you and yours…………………………………gene
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 12 2012,05:26) Good one, Wakeup. Here's another: Jude 1:9
But even the archangel Michael, when he was disputing with the devil about the body of Moses, did not dare to bring a slanderous accusation against him, but said, “The Lord rebuke you!”Was Michael disputing with “the evil inside us all” about the body of Moses?
Mike……..First of all there is not such wording in our Scriptures we have, it just says God Buried Moses , and did it in such a way that no one could find him, and i seriously doubt the Angel Michael was disputing with “IT” or as you believe another Angel about Moses' body, if GOD Buried HIM.The book of Enoch is highly questionable as far as reliability any good scholar would tell you that. It has many part that are proven no to be true as i recall. But even if you were to believe it where does it say that it was a ANGEL of any kind Michael was disputing with?.
Mike what if it was God who was disputing with The Angel Micheal would you say He was and angel also? God is a SPIRIT and So is ha-satan a Spirit> Neither of them are Angels, Angels can not “INDWELL” a PERSON but a SPIRITS CAN>
Peace and love to you and yours…………………………………gene
Job 1
6 One day the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and the adversarial spirit within us all also came with them. 7 The LORD said to the adversarial spirit within us all, “Where have you come from?”
The adversarial spirit within us all answered the LORD, “From roaming through the earth and going back and forth in it.”8 Then the LORD said to the adversarial spirit within us all, “Have you considered my servant Job? There is no one on earth like him; he is blameless and upright, a man who fears God and shuns evil.”
9 “Does Job fear God for nothing?” the adversarial spirit within us all replied. 10 “Have you not put a hedge around him and his household and everything he has? You have blessed the work of his hands, so that his flocks and herds are spread throughout the land. 11 But stretch out your hand and strike everything he has, and he will surely curse you to your face.”
12 The LORD said to the adversarial spirit within us all, “Very well, then, everything he has is in your hands, but on the man himself do not lay a finger.”
Then the adversarial spirit within us all went out from the presence of the LORD.
Is this the correct meaning of that passage, Gene?
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