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Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 05 2012,05:44) Paul clearly was showing it is the Mind and Spirit working as one that is what counts.
So then you agree that the mind (intellect) and the spirit are two different things? They'd have to be two different things in order to “work as one” like you said, right?Mike……… Our mind and Spirit are one becasue it is the Spirits that give us the (intellects) which compose our minds, “let this mind be (IN) you that was (IN) Christ Jesus our Lord” That mind is the Spirit of God which was also (IN) Jesus by way of the Christos or Anointing of GODS Spirit. The Brain and the Mind are two different thing because the Brain is Matter while our minds are Spirits.
Mike look at it this way Spirit is “COGNATE THOUGHT” it is what LIFE IS. (IT) is in all Physical Creation of GOD that exists with life on this Planet. God who (IS) Spirit (IS) LIFE and it is Yahweh Our GOD that created not only all living things but he (Yahweh our GOD) also created all Spirits which are the very Life that is (IN) all living things. All Spirits are HIS becasue He created them all , God the Father is the Tree of LIFE and He is Spiirt. Remember what Jesus Said, the “WORDS” I am telling you “ARE” spirit and “ARE” Life. Go slow with that and meditate on every word Jesus said there. WORDS (ARE) the (the intelligent expression of the Mind) They express our “COGNATE” Thoughts and come from the LIFE giving Spirits working (IN) US . Therefore if we try the Spirits we are trying what a person Says to see if it is of GOD or Not , which implies that we already Know the Truth by the “SPIRIT of TRUTH” giving us which is a COGNATE UNDERSTANDING of the TRUTH of GOD . This is all Spirits which compose our minds and gives us the “INTELLECT” of our minds.
The Mind and Spirit are ONE and The same thing. Therefore Scripture could say let this mind be in you which was (IN) Christ Jesus our Lord. In fact all SEVEN Spirits of GOD which are the “EYES” (INTELLECTS) of GOD are now on Jesus. Therefore it say in revelations let them hear what the SPIRIT is SAYING unto the CHURCHES. Spirit are not Persons they are what is (IN) Persons or BEINGS. IMO
peace and love to you and yours Brother………………………………………………………..gene
Okay Gene. The scriptures I've been posting (which clearly show your understanding to be flawed) seem to be of no consequence to you.
It seems you are happy with the way you understand things, and no scripture is ever going to change your mind about it. So we have apparently reached and impasse for now.
If something else comes to mind later, I'll hit you up again.
peace,
mikeQuote (Nick Hassan @ June 07 2012,01:33) Hi GB,
Intellects COMPOSE our minds?
No scripture for this but the gospel of GB.
Nick…… What about So a man “THINKS” so he (IS)? Thinking is an analytical Process of the Minds intelligence in it.I sure hope you mind has intelligence in it or you would be a zombie or and Idiot right? Why do you always think that a spirit is disassociated with intelligence, Is this the way you view GOD Himself? Do you actually think for a moment he did not make everything without using his intelligence he has. What do you think the Spirit of Wisdom is , is it not the wise use of (INTELLIGENCE)? Come out of your “MYSTERY” Religious beliefs Nick. Learn to live in what is true and sound things that make sense. Spirit (IS) Cognate thought and that is (INTELLIGENCE) anyway you put it> Even the word you express here are an expression of your “INTELLECT” rather you want to believe that or not it still is the truth Nick.
peace and love to you and yours……………………………..gene
Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 07 2012,09:37) Okay Gene. The scriptures I've been posting (which clearly show your understanding to be flawed) seem to be of no consequence to you. It seems you are happy with the way you understand things, and no scripture is ever going to change your mind about it. So we have apparently reached and impasse for now.
If something else comes to mind later, I'll hit you up again.
peace,
mike
Mike………The Scripture you posted about what Paul was addressing had nothing to do with our subject being discussed here , You should not cut and Post thing from scripture out of context Brother. I have shown you and others here clearly Scripture dealing exactly what i am saying about Spirits being facets of (INTELLECTS) which makes up our cognate thought and is the force of influence of the lives we live. Spirits are not “BEINGS” as you and other false assume they are, They are what is (IN) Being all Beings that have Life (IN) them. Without Spirit there is NO LIFE at all. Spirit is what LIFE (IS) Therefore it say to test the SpIrits to see of they are of God and again let this MIND be (IN) you that was (IN) Christ Jesus our Lord. It is all about Spirits which compose our minds intellects . IMOpeace and love to you and yours brother………………………..gene
Nick………Spirits ARE our Minds intellects they give our minds its life. Had you understood what Jesus and Paul have said you could easily understand that. To you and Mike they are “BEINGS” or PERSONS, to me they are what life itself (IS)> They impart the intellects in our minds. The Spirit of truth imparts the truth in our minds and that (IS) intellect> The spirit of wisdom gives us wisdom and wisdom is a perception of the mind and that is an intellect rather you understand that or not Nick. Your “MYSTERY RELIGIOUS' belifs are preventing you from seeing and understanding this brother.
No Nick the wacky ideas is to think that spirit are “BEING”s going around jumping in and out of People at will and tha tis what you and Mike think spirit are. Now that is wacky. IMO
peace and love to you and yours Nick………………………………………gene
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 09 2012,07:16) To you and Mike they are “BEINGS” or PERSONS…………
Yes Gene.To me, Nick, every other person on this site (including your friend Jodi Lee who has come to see the light)……………..oh, and also to the writers of the Holy Scriptures.
Mike ……….Where did Jodi every agree with that at? Jesus said Spirit was LIFE and as far as i and every person on this earth Knows Life is Cognate THOUGHTS or Intellects that are expressed by or through words and the way we live life. t But of course to you and Nick Spirit are people and Beings jumping in and out of People taking control of their lives. Tell us Mike when was the last time you saw a Person or Being Jumping in some one. But instead of recognizing the truth you had rather believe you MYSTERY RELIGIOUS” Teaching you and other learned a long long time ago about Spook and DEVILS and DEMONS. Like the Movie writers would like is to also believe in there MYSTERY GHOST MOVIES .
Hay Mike wake up those are “MOVIES” and NOT REAL “SPIRIT BEINGS” like your Ghosts and Living Souls after a person is dead, all of those have removed you and Nike and others from reality into a wolrd of MYSTERY RELIGION concepts.
peace and love to you and yours………………………………………………….gene
Jodi said there is no scripture that says “spirit BEINGS”. And I told her there is no scripture that “human BEINGS” either. And she said, “Great point. I never thought it out like that.”
And that's the last she's had to say on the subject.
Gene, when Jesus appeared to the disciples, they thought they had seen a SPIRIT. Now surely they didn't think they had seen an “intellect inside someone”. I've told you this before and you just say, “They were wrong too”.
So have it your way Gene: me and Nick and everyone else on this site and the scriptures and the disciples are ALL WRONG, while you alone are RIGHT.
Mike…………So to you and everyone else When it say they THOUGHT they saw a Ghost or Spirit that to you and all the rest means they DID see a Ghost or Spirit right? How does a false assumption make anything real Mike to you and all the rest you say believes as you do here ?
And by the way Jodi did not say she agreed with you at all , when a person say they did not think of something does not mean they agree with you and all your ASSUMPTIONS> IMO
peace and love to you and yours………………………………………………………………gene
Hi GB,
You are happy in your delusions.
Hopefully you will not be reminded of the truth by experience.Nick……….Have you ever been reminded of this truth of yours yourself Nick, if so please share it with us. When did you ever see a Demon or a “Ghost Spirit” or a Spook jump in and out of a person. Share your “TRUTH” which you say is “JESUS' Truth”. In fact show us where anyone you personally Know has seen this or for that matter anyone on this planet has. You can find a lot of MYSTERY RELIGIONS and there followers teaching this false teachings Movie makers abound producing these factious ideas of theirs.
There are mental disorders that manifest all kinds of mental unstable behavior in people and some are in mental institutions , But to say that is a demon or devil is Just your misunderstand of what Jesus was actually saying.
The only childern of the devil are PEOPLE themselves and they are the devils on this earth in high places of powers that people wrestle against, they are human being doing evil Just as their father did, “CAIN” , he was the father of all lairs and murders not some unseen SPOOK “BEING” called a SATAN “BEING” of Your and others here. Again i am not saying there are “NO” SATAN “BEINGS” there are, and they are all people themselves. Not some invisible Spook person as you and other “ASSUME”.
If you really understood what Jesus and other scripture say you would Know this truth, and come out of your own delusions you acquired by MYSTERY RELIGIONS Teachings over the years. IMO
peace and love to you and yours Nick……………………………………………………gene
Nick……….Now who said that i sure did not say that, No man has seen God at anytime But i Know the invisible God exists , not by suppositions as many do, but by actually answering of my Prayers this is the invisible GOD Proof of His existence and It gives me MY FAITH (IN) HIM. tell me this, He that does “miracles” among you does He do it by works of Law or by Hearing of your Faith? Paul understood what true Faith was and what it Produced in a Persons life. There is no TRUE FAITH WITHOUT “EVIDENCE” there is only suppositions and assumptions brought on by false religious teachings . All who seek GOD must believe He is a rewarder of those that “DILIGENTLY” SEEK HIM, Just as God says, I am found by those that “SEEK” ME I wounder how many here have truly Found Him and can “FEEL” After HIM> However we are also told have you faith have it unto yourself My Faith is bound up in a real relationship with my heavenly FATHER , i know i don't alway please him in everything i do , but i have been given many many proofs from him in my life so i view myself without an excuse, but i am still trying to overcome my faults and secure the crown of Life afforded us through Christ Jesus .
Peace and love to you and yours Nick…………………………………….gene
To All…………..I love you all, but to me you are like little childern as Jesus referenced saying What will i liken this generation unto they are like little childern sitting in the market place saying we have piped unto you but you did not dance, we have mourned unto you and you did not cry One thing about little childern they have much grace given them by GOD the FATHER and Jesus.
Peace and love to you all and i truly mean that, God know my heart and that i don't want to prevent or offend any but only to bring to light what i believe he has shown me.
peace and love to you all and yours……………………………………………………….gene
Nick……….NO i don't brother, However Answered Prayer does Mean God is connected with a person and i do believe what i am saying about this subject is accurate Nick. I have ask God to Show me if i am wrong and i would change my views but so far that has not happened. So i stand fast on what i believe scripture is saying. If i am corrected i will change but can you say the same thing Nick? You and Mike have offered NO Scriptural Proof nor Present PROOF. If you and Mike would put “ALL” the scriptures on this subject together instead of little snap shots you could see what i have posted to you both. IMO
peace and love to you and yours Nick……………………………………………………….gene
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