Beelzebub and demons

[mikeboll64]

The JWs come closer to scriptural truth than anyone else out there (although I'm not on board with them on EVERY issue). Your frequent quips to separate yourself from them make it clear that YOUR scriptural understanding is flawed on many issues.

But I'm glad you brought up how carefully the scriptures were compiled. That kind of awareness will help you with Gal 4:4 in the other thread.

Now, I've asked you a couple of different questions in my last post. Were you going to actually ANSWER them, or just keep spouting mindless fluff as usual?

[NickHassan]

Hi MB,
It is no surprise that one verse theology is attractive to you.
Dig deeper.

[NickHassan]

Hi MB,
If you want to find proven truth in scripture then use the principle of 2 cor 13.1
Anyone can make one verse say what they want it to say

[NickHassan]

Hi MB,
So Lk11 and mt 12 need to be read together by folk like Gene
and then proven scriptural truth may teach them.

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 28 2012,19:53)

Hi MB, It is no surprise that one verse theology is attractive to you. Dig deeper.

N

we are looking for answers to your own doctrines and you are running away ,

you have no shame that you can not defend your own faith ?

[mikeboll64]

Pierre,

Not one of Nick's last three posts make a lick of sense, or are worth even a response (as so often is the case with his posts).

They are nothing but mindless fluff designed to disguise the fact that he can't answer our points from scripture.

[NickHassan]

Hi MB,
Yes putting fingers in your ears seems to keep truth out

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 28 2012,20:40)

Hi MB, Yes putting fingers in your ears seems to keep truth out

N

this is a three year old answer ,grow up

[NickHassan]

Hi,
So there is spiritual wickedness in high places and the accuser of the brethren is hard at work.

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 28 2012,21:33)

Hi, So there is spiritual wickedness in high places and the accuser of the brethren is hard at work.

N

Wickedness is active at all levels,

But what do you think the devil the accuser ,accuses the brethren of

[NickHassan]

Hi T,
The same things that caused the pharisees to want to kill Jesus.
Carnal misconceptions.

[mikeboll64]

And you, Nick, being so “spiritual”, are immune to these carnal misconceptions that entrap the rest of us? Is that it?

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 29 2012,00:13)

Hi T, The same things that caused the pharisees to want to kill Jesus. Carnal misconceptions.

N

I highly recommand that you read the 2 or 3 first chapiters of the book of JOB,

then may be you would understand what is going on in this world ,

[NickHassan]

Hi,
Jesus rejoiced when he heard the voice of the counsellor though Peter.
The first victory in the battle for the minds of men was being won.
It is much easier when you are a rough and ignorant fisherman

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 29 2012,12:49)

Hi, Jesus rejoiced when he heard the voice of the counsellor though Peter. The first victory in the battle for the minds of men was being won. It is much easier when you are a rough and ignorant fisherman

yeah ,Peter was a fisherman,

[GeneBalthrop]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 28 2012,04:51)

Pierre, Good post, but Nick is with us on this one.  Our fight on this subject is against the evil powers of darkness………………. and Gene.   It is said that the greatest feat Satan ever performed is convincing people that he doesn't even exist.  So far, he has Gene so convinced of this that he is willing to ignore even the words of Jesus himself.

Mike………..Where and when did i say SATAN does not exist , you are wrong All kinds of Satan's exist, the Spirit of Evil Adversaries work in all people at different times, by the EVIL ADVERSARIAL Spirit working in this world . Or don't you remember when Jesus said “YOU “BEING EVIL”, KNOW HOW TO GIVE GOOD GIFTS', Mankind is sons of Satans of this earth not some elusive invisible Being going around jumping in and out of people. You Still have no idea what a SPIRIT really is as well as Nick do YOU? IMO

Mike you and Nick are both Blind guides on this subject. There was not “REAL SERPENT” BEING

peace and love…………………………….gene

[GeneBalthrop]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 28 2012,04:39)

Hi GB, Many words but all saying you are the expert and not Jesus Christ or the God Who gave him his Words to speak.

Nick………..Those word were quoted from the very mouth of GOD, to prove my point but you say they are my words, How is that?.

Do you think Jesus was more right then God himself was? Do you believe Jesus went against God the Fathers words.

peace and love to you and yours…………………………………..gene

[NickHassan]

Hi GB,
Would you try to divide what God has joined together?
God and His Son?

How powerful do you think you are?

[mikeboll64]

Gene,

Do these adversarial spirits have minds and wills of their own?

[GeneBalthrop]

Mike…………NO they are not “BEINGS” they are spirits, which give Cognate thought to “BEINGS” they influence our Will by influencing our thinking, The Propensety for sin is in all man Kind and always was since the down fall of man. You Must MASTER (IT) Just as GOD told Cain, “Sin lies at the Door” (of our hearts) and must be Mastered , Just as Jesus did in the wilderness.

What you and Nick do is create another “BEING” that is equal to GOD by saying He can take control of us at (HIS) Will, making it appear the man is not responsible for his actions becasue they are helpless to this invisible Satan GOD of your and Nick, that can at his “WILL” as you say take control of our Minds . It is not a “SATAN” that sin it is Man Himself that given to Lust of his eyes and lust of His flesh and pride of life he receives from this world that sins. You and Nick do not answer the scriptures put to you both. You just ignore them as if they are not even written, and Now Nick is saying I am Pitting God the Father against Jesus which is outright LIE. You both make man as a victim and pervert God word of His fairness in Judgment. IMO

peace and love…………………………………………………………gene

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