Beelzebub and demons

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  • #296746
    mikeboll64
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    Nick,

    Let me know when you're ready to either make a direct claim about something scriptural, or at least tell me how your questions have anything to do with my answers to Kerwin.

    #296750
    NickHassan
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    Hi MB,
    So the lusts conceive and give birth to sin alive in us?[Rom7]

    #296765
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Nick,

    Are you trying to say that you believe Satan and his demons are responsible for every sinful urge that mankind has?

    If you are, then just SAY IT already. ???

    #296766
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi MB,
    What does scripture say?

    #296770
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Show me what scripture says, Nick. Show me where scripture says that every sinful act man commits is a direct result of Satan or one of his demons.

    #296771
    GeneBalthrop
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    NICK………….Words (ARE) SPIRIT induced, Words come from Spirits working are (IN) a person, Spirits are not PERSONS they are (ITS) go and look up the word used for HE in your quoted scripture and you will find it can equally mean and (IT) . When a Spirit is cast out of a person (IT) goes about in arid Places looking for rest, so no Spirit wants to be without a BODY of it OWN that (IT) can control and that even includes our SPIRITS. Even God who is SPIRIT it say earnestly desires US. to live on and through us. Nick why did Jesus say “THIS KIND” only cones our with prayer and fasting. why did he not say this person only comes out wit prayer and fasting. instead of using the word “KIND”.

    WHY if he had his own BODY would He earnestly desire us. Each spirit influences us according to it KIND and TYPE. The Lord GOD is in control of ALL SPIRITS , He is the CREATOR of Them all even the Spirits that are (IN) us or ANGELS > Life (IS) what SPIRIT (IS) and without SPIRIT there is NO cognate Thoughts or INTELLECTS at ALL> As far as the Society of Jesus time they attributed every thing to Demonic spirits even Epileptics they thought had demon Spirits causing them to convulse. They attributed every thing abnormal to DEMONS they were more ignorant about what Spirits are then people today are. We today understand Mental Illness and deal with it in human ways.

    Nick you deceiving yourself to think they back in the time of Jesus, they understood Demonic Behavior better the we now do. Because the word Spirit has falsely been attributed to so many different things, the true definition of the what Spirit are has been Lost, and as a result all kinds of MYSTERY RELIGIOUS teaching has emerged. Spirit are NOT Beings they are what is (IN) Being rather the LORD OUR GOD or ANGLES or HUMANS OR every Physical created thing that exists. They are the LIFE in of those “BEINGS” But they themselves are not “BEINGS” OR “PERSONS”, they are not HE or SHE'S they are (IT'S).

    peace and love to you and yours…………………………………………………………..gene

    #296774
    NickHassan
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    Hi GB,
    Your ideas are truer than those of Jesus and his generation?

    #296777
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Nick………No my ideas are not Nick, it's just your lack of understanding what he was saying as well as those of His day also not understanding what he was saying , nothing has changes , but Knowledge Has increased and a Better understand is available today I believe. You say you understand what Jesus was saying but you seem to lack Knowledge of what his meanings are , much like many people back then with the exception of the apostles who had to have thing spelled out over and over to them and even then they only got some of it, They hjad to recieve the HOLY SPIRIT to percieve things.

    Nick making snide remarks advances nothing brother, it is better to Post scriptures with understanding guided by the Spirit. IMO
    Remember Nick Jesus did not speak clearly about many things and some of the even unto his apostles also, who had to may times come and ask Him what he meant.  In fact when he did speak clearly to then they were amazed. Now notice this if you can brother.

    go read for yourself  John 16: 25- 31. Notice what the disciples said V29 His disciples said unto him, Lo, now speakest you “PLAINLY” , and speakest “NO” Proverb> (fictions illustration) Nick did you noticed the “NOW” there what does that mean to you?

    There is Much you need to learn Nick as well as we all. IMO

    peace and Love to you and yours………………………………gene

    #296778
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi GB,
    So you do think your words are truer than those of Jesus in lk11.

    #296779
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi MB,
    We know that we are of God and the whole world lies in the power of the evil one

    #296780
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi mB,
    All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.

    #296781
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi MB,
    The sin of the carnal Jews was attributed by Jesus Christ to their service of their father, satan.
    Do you disagree?

    #296782
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi MB,
    Light came into the world but men preferred darkness.
    We have been taken out of the dominion of darkness into the wonderful light.
    Salvation is rescue from slavery to satan who rules through demons as Jesus showed in Luke 11

    #296790
    kerwin
    Participant

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 07 2012,02:22)
    Show me what scripture says, Nick.  Show me where scripture says that every sinful act man commits is a direct result of Satan or one of his demons.


    Mike,

    James 4:7
    King James Version (KJV)

    7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

    Peter, like Judas after him, did not resist the Devil.

    #296792
    kerwin
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 07 2012,03:23)
    Hi mB,
    All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.


    Nick,

    You are treating a part of a sentence in Scripture as a whole sentence; be careful as that can lead to disaster.

    The next two posts of yours sound fine; and even this one is useful if used correctly; even though it is risky.

    #296793
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi KW,
    What came from Peters mouth revealed what was in him.
    He had no idea

    #296795
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi ,
    Mat 5
    37 But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.

    Where is this evil?
    Living in the hearts of men

    #296796
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    It seems to me that Kerwin and Nick are believers in the old excuse, “The Devil made me do it!”.  Many people like this mentality because then they aren't really responsible for their own decisions and actions.  They use the devil as a scapegoat for when THEY THEMSELVES make a bad choice.

    I am not of this mentality.  Every angel AND human being God creates has to choose every day whether to sin against God or not to.

    There is no scripture that even implies that EACH sin a man commits is the result of Satan or his demons working in him.  Nor is there any indication that Satan actually entered Adam or Eve to cause them to sin.  They sinned of their own choice, and Satan was merely the “persuader”, although he often gets credit for “making” them sin. But sin entered the world through one MAN – not through one SPIRIT BEING.

    #296806
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi MB,
    God holds all men responsible for their actions.
    Most blindly follow the prince of this world.

    #296810
    kerwin
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 07 2012,05:12)
    Hi KW,
    What came from Peters mouth revealed what was in him.
    He had no idea


    Nick,

    Peter was not yet mature; as the Holy Spirit had not yet come; and therefore he did not know evil for evil; even as you say.

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