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Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 11 2013,20:37) Wakeup……..Don't be lead astray, Jesus said very clearly Thou art the “ONLY” “TRUE” GOD, and 1Cor 8:4 …..”WE KNOW”, that there is no Idol in the world and that there is “NO” GOD, but “ONE”, My advice to you is to believe those scriptures and the many many more that say the same thing and also God the Father Himself said he could find no other God . (true God's that is) there are many, many, many “FALSE God's, created by the mind of carnal minded men who want to use this false teaching to make Jesus a God himself . But it is obvious Jesus did not think He was a God or He would have never Said THOU ARE THE “ONLY” TRUE GOD now would he? IMO peace and love to you and yours……………………………gene
GENE1Co 8:1 Now about food sacrificed to idols: We know that we all possess knowledge. Knowledge puffs up, but love builds up.
1Co 8:2 The man who thinks he knows something does not yet know as he ought to know.
1Co 8:3 But the man who loves God is known by God.
1Co 8:4 So then, about eating food sacrificed to idols: We know that an idol is nothing at all in the world and that there is no God but one.
1Co 8:5 For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as indeed there are many “gods” and many “lords”),
1Co 8:6 yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live.
1Co 8:7 But not everyone knows this. Some people are still so accustomed to idols that when they eat such food they think of it as having been sacrificed to an idol, and since their conscience is weak, it is defiled.
1Co 8:8 But food does not bring us near to God; we are no worse if we do not eat, and no better if we do.
1Co 8:9 Be careful, however, that the exercise of your freedom does not become a stumbling block to the weak.YOU DO NOT EVEN UNDERSTAND YOUR OWN QUOTED SCRIPTURE
November 12, 2013 at 12:04 am#361752mikeboll64BlockedQuote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 11 2013,08:37) …….there are many, many, many “FALSE God's, created by the mind of carnal minded men who want to use this false teaching to make Jesus a God himself .
In Gene's understanding, Hebrews 1:8 is a matter of Jehovah Himself calling Jesus a “false god created by the mind of carnal minded men”. And then telling this “false god” that he will rule forever.Isn't that right, Gene?
November 12, 2013 at 12:13 am#361755WakeupParticipantQuote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 11 2013,03:13) Wakeup, We could go on and on about this forever. The bottom line is that you are wrong…….. period.
The word “god” NEVER meant “All Powerful Creator of All Things” in ANY scripture. The word in scripture ALWAYS referred to one who was perceived to be a powerful, supernatural being who had power over the lives of human beings and nature.
And since the MOST HIGH god created all kinds of beings who fit that description, the idea that there is LITERALLY only ONE god in existence is absurd.
Angels are gods……. period. Jesus is a god……. period. Satan is a god…….. period. And Jehovah is the MOST HIGH god, and the god OF all of those other gods.
Tell me how Jehovah could be the MOST HIGH GOD if there don't exist LESS HIGH GODS for Him to be HIGHER THAN. Tell me how He could be the god OF gods if there exist no gods for Him to be the god OF.
Tell me how we know Jehovah is the god who created all things, Wakeup. Is it because the word “god”, in and of itself, MEANS creator of all things? Or is it because scripture over and over tells us that of all the gods, only ONE OF THEM created all things? It is the latter.
So first things first………… you must let go of that flawed man-made teaching that there LITERALLY exists only ONE god. Because that is never taught in any scripture.
You asked where is the skill in discerning scripture? It seems you are lacking when it comes to this topic. Consider the following:
Barak Obama says: “Is there a President besides me? I know of not one.”
Now that is a TRUE statement taken in the context that, although there do indeed exist many presidents all over the world, none is more powerful than the President of the United States.
But it is not a LITERAL statement, meaning that all the other presidents of countries and businesses are “non-existent”, “false presidents”, “untrue presidents” or “so-called presidents”. Instead it is an EMPHATIC statement meant to place Obama ABOVE all those other “lesser presidents”.
So we could honestly say:
1. Obama is the President OF presidents.
2. Obama is the MOST HIGH president.
3. For us Americans, there is but ONE president, Barak Obama.
All three statements could be made in complete honesty – although the third one is not a LITERAL statement, because many Americans work under other presidents as well. The third statement, therefore, is an EMPHATIC statement. That doesn't mean it is a LIE. It means that in a manner of speaking, since Obama is our MOST HIGH President, we can say he is our “ONLY president”.
A scriptural example would be when Jehovah says there is no SAVIOR besides Himself. This is another example of an EMPHATIC statement – because we know full well that Jehovah has sent many other saviors throughout the history of the world.
There are other such scriptural examples that we can discuss if you'd like. But perhaps, in order for you to understand the true meaning of John 1:1, you must first be shown that there do indeed exist many gods and many lords, both in heaven and on earth…… and that Jehovah isn't the ONLY god or lord, but the MOST HIGH of them all.
Are you ready to empty yourself and learn these things? Or are you happy in your confusion?
Mike B.Very sad to hear that from you.
Saying there Are many gods beside YHWH.
An angels saves not by own will,but God's will.
Jesus saves not by own will,but by God's will.
Satan is the god of this evil world,not by own will by by God's
will.God is the hand holding the axe.(isai 10:15)Its time to adhere to the scriptures, and not start making own assumptions. This is what all have been practising.
*********Isaiah 45:7 ***I form the light, and create darkness***: ***I make peace, and create evil***: ***I the LORD do all these things***.
I FORM THE LIGHT AND DARKNESS;I MAKE PEACE AND CREATE EVIL; I THE LORD. I THE LORD,I THE LORD.
NOT *A* GOD BESIDE HIM: (YOU ARE CONTRADICTING THIS SCRITURE).Isaiah 45:8 Drop down, ye heavens, from above, and let the skies pour down righteousness: let the earth open, and let them bring forth salvation, and let righteousness spring up together; ***I the LORD have created it***.
I THE LORD;I THE LORD;I THE LORD.
NOT *A* GOD BESIDE HIM HERE: YOU ARE CONTRADICTING THIS SCRIPTURE ALSO.Isaiah 45:12 ***I have made the earth***, ***and created man upon it***: ***I, even my hands***, ***have stretched out the heavens***, and all their host **have I commanded**.
**GODS HANDS** CREATED ALL THINGS,NOT *A*NOTHER GO'S HANDS: BUT GOD'S HANDS; GOD'S HANDS; GOD'S HANDS.
YOU ARE ALSO CONTRADICTING THIS SCRIPTURE;(AGAIN)Isaiah 45:14 Thus saith the LORD, The labour of Egypt, and merchandise of Ethiopia and of the Sabeans, men of stature, shall come over unto thee, and they shall be thine: they shall come after thee; in chains they shall come over, and they shall fall down unto thee, they shall make supplication unto thee, saying, Surely God is in thee; and there is **none else**, **there is no God**.
THERE IS NONE ELSE NONE ELSE, NONE ELSE NONE ELSE, THERE IS NO GOD, NO GOD, NO GOD.
YOU ARE CONTRADICTING THIS SCRIPTURE ALSO.(AGAIN).Isaiah 45:15 Verily thou art a God that hidest thyself, O God of Israel, ***the Saviour***.
GOD THE SAVIOUR: *NOT EVER *A* GOD MENTIONED*,
ALL IS I AM GOD ,IAM, IAM, IAM; ME, ME, ME.
A** GOD WAS CREATED BY EVIL MEN,TO CREATE A WEDGE BETWEEN GOD AND CONFUSION.YOU CAN NOT SURVIVE BY CONTRADICTING THE WRITTEN WORD OF GOD USING PRECEPT OF MEN.
wakeup.
Isaiah 45:18 For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else.
Isaiah 45:19 I have not spoken in secret, in a dark place of the earth: I said not unto the seed of Jacob, Seek ye me in vain: I the LORD speak righteousness, I declare things that are right.
Isaiah 45:21 Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me.
Isaiah 45:22 Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else.
Isaiah 45:23 I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.
November 12, 2013 at 12:19 am#361756mikeboll64BlockedQuote (Wakeup @ Nov. 11 2013,17:13) An angels saves not by own will, but God's will. Jesus saves not by own will, but by God's will.
Satan is the god of this evil world, not by own will by God's will. God is the hand holding the axe.(isai 10:15)
And what do those three things tell you, Wakeup:1. Jehovah is the ONLY god in existence?
2. Jehovah is the MOST HIGH god in existence?
November 12, 2013 at 12:21 am#361757mikeboll64BlockedQuote (Wakeup @ Nov. 11 2013,17:13) Mike B. Very sad to hear that from you.
Btw, don't feel sad for me. I'm the one aligning my understanding with the scriptures. You have chosen to align yours with the false teachings of Trinitarian men.The scriptures consistently teach of many gods, Wakeup. It was men who came later who started to convince people like you that there LITERALLY exists only one god.
Psalms 82:1
God stands in the assembly of El; in the midst of the gods he renders judgment.Who are the gods that God assembles with in this psalm? Who are the gods upon whom He renders judgment?
November 12, 2013 at 2:42 am#361766WakeupParticipantQuote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 12 2013,10:19) Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 11 2013,17:13) An angels saves not by own will, but God's will. Jesus saves not by own will, but by God's will.
Satan is the god of this evil world, not by own will by God's will. God is the hand holding the axe.(isai 10:15)
And what do those three things tell you, Wakeup:1. Jehovah is the ONLY god in existence?
2. Jehovah is the MOST HIGH god in existence?
Mikeb.It tells me that yhwh is one.
His hands did all the works.
Now you need to find out who Jesus is.
This seems a contradiction to mens thinking.wakeup.
November 12, 2013 at 3:02 am#361767WakeupParticipantQuote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 12 2013,10:21) Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 11 2013,17:13) Mike B. Very sad to hear that from you.
Btw, don't feel sad for me. I'm the one aligning my understanding with the scriptures. You have chosen to align yours with the false teachings of Trinitarian men.The scriptures consistently teach of many gods, Wakeup. It was men who came later who started to convince people like you that there LITERALLY exists only one god.
Psalms 82:1
God stands in the assembly of El; in the midst of the gods he renders judgment.Who are the gods that God assembles with in this psalm? Who are the gods upon whom He renders judgment?
Mike B.Quote
The scriptures consistently teach of many gods, Wakeup. It was men who came later who started to convince people like you that there LITERALLY exists only one god.Psalms 82:1
God stands in the assembly of El; in the midst of the gods he renders judgment.Who are the gods that God assembles with in this psalm? Who are the gods upon whom He renders judgment?
THERE ARE BILLIONS OF GODS,BUT NOT WORTHY TO BE WORSHIPPED.WE ALSO ARE CALLED GODS.
THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD WORTHY TO BE WORSHIP.OTHER GODS ARE JUST CALLED GODS.
WE WORSHIP THE CREATOR GOD;SO WHY WORRY ABOUT THE OTHER GODS?ANGELS ARE GODS ALSO FOR THEY KNOW WHAT IS GOOD AND WHAT IS EVIL;AND THEY CAN MAKE THEIR OWN DECISION IN THEIR LIVES, WETHER TO WORSHIP THE CREATOR OR NOT.
I AM NOT A TRINY.
FOR I KNOW THE TRUE GOD AND THE TRUE JESUS.
NOT SO WITH THE TRINIES.
YOU NEED SOME MORE PRAYERS AND FEEDING ON THE FLESH OF CHRIST TO SEE THE MYSTERY.
OR PLACED IN THEIR CLASS; NOT KNOWING THE SON AND THE FATHER. ONLY THEM WHOM THE LORD HAD REVEALED HIM WILL KNOW THE MYSTERY.wakeup.
November 13, 2013 at 2:04 am#361832mikeboll64BlockedQuote (Wakeup @ Nov. 11 2013,20:02) THERE ARE BILLIONS OF GODS,BUT NOT WORTHY TO BE WORSHIPPED. ANGELS ARE GODS ALSO………….
Correct on all counts, Wakeup.Jehovah is the only god worthy of our worship. Now what does that tell you?
1. Jehovah is the only god, PERIOD?
2. Jehovah is the only god we should WORSHIP?
Which one?
November 13, 2013 at 2:05 am#361833mikeboll64BlockedWakeup,
Please address my questions about Psalm 82:1.
November 13, 2013 at 9:20 am#361870WakeupParticipantQuote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 13 2013,12:05) Wakeup, Please address my questions about Psalm 82:1.
Mike B.82:1 God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the gods.
GOD WILL JUDGE THE CONGREGATION OF SO CALLED GODS ON EARTH. THEY ALL WILL BE ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR DOINGS.
Psalms 82:2 How long will ye judge unjustly, and accept the persons of the wicked? Selah.
THIS IS A QUESTION TO THOSE GODS: HOW LONG WILL YOU KEEP ON DOING WHAT YOU ARE DOING?
Psalms 82:3 Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to the afflicted and needy.
TELLING THEM IN AUTHORITY (G0DS) TO DO JUSTICE:
TO DEFEND THE POOR.Psalms 82:4 Deliver the poor and needy: rid them out of the hand of the wicked.
THE POOR WILL BE DELIVERED BY GOD OUT OF THE HANDS OF THE WICKED GODS/THE OPPRESSORS.
Psalms 82:5 They know not, neither will they understand; they walk on in darkness: all the foundations of the earth are out of course.
THOSE SO CALLED GODS ARE IN DARKNESS,THEY CAN NOT UNDERSTAND GODLY THINGS.
Psalms 82:6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.
ALL ARE GODS; CREATED BY GOD.
SOME MADE THEMSELVES GODS AMONGST MEN.
AND DO ALL THE OPPRESSING.Psalms 82:7 But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.
ONE OF THE PRINCES=SATAN.
THE SO CALLED GODS SHALL DIE,LIKE MEN.Psalms 82:8 Arise, O God, judge the earth: for thou shalt inherit all nations.
AND SO IT WILL BE: THE GREAT JUDGEMENT OF ALL OF THEM.
wakeup.
November 13, 2013 at 4:17 pm#361874GeneBalthropParticipantQuote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 12 2013,10:04) Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 11 2013,08:37) …….there are many, many, many “FALSE God's, created by the mind of carnal minded men who want to use this false teaching to make Jesus a God himself .
In Gene's understanding, Hebrews 1:8 is a matter of Jehovah Himself calling Jesus a “false god created by the mind of carnal minded men”. And then telling this “false god” that he will rule forever.Isn't that right, Gene?
Mike …..Wrong, it's a matter of the LORD (YAHWEH) OUR GOD, seeing His seven Spirits “IN” Jesus with Power , which is what builds the Kingdom of God on this earth. Haven't you read where Jesus said “THY KINGDOM COME” , “THY WILL BE DONE” on earth as in Heaven. Do you honestly think the man Jesus by himself brings the Kingdom of God to this earth or do you think , he as a God being brings the kingdom of God, and if that were the case then Jesus would be Our God.But wait that would make Jesus a Liar, Because he said “THOU” (someone other then him) was the “ONLY” (meaning there is no OTHER) “TRUE” GOD. He never said I (as a God) go to “MY God” and “YOUR” GOD, “MY Father” and “YOUR” Father. In fact post one scripture where Jesus ever said He was a God of any kind. Post it if it exists Please. You have never answered this 1 Cor 8:4…..> We know that there is no idol in the world and that there is “NO” GOD, but “ONE”.
Not to even begin to mention all the other 10 or twenty scriptures that say the same thing. Mike you simply chose to ignore some texts and then force some texts to say an mean what they simple do not say or Mean. Big Problem you have Mike.
Why don't you simply take all the texts that show that there is only one GOD and List them, and try to make the ones you are forcing to say what they do not say to line with those texts, Can't you understand that Most all Modern Christianity is based on False assumptions and Mystical teachings. Scripture also say God is “NOT” a Man that he should Lie or a SON of MAN that he should repent. Did Jesus not say he was a Son of Man over 80 times in scriptures?
Mike you have bought into the Biggest Lie ever told in this earth, and that is that Jesus is a God, and that He preexisted as a Sentinel Being before his Berth on this earth. You definitely are not alone , I will give you that>
peace and love…………………………..gene
November 14, 2013 at 1:23 am#361903mikeboll64BlockedQuote (Wakeup @ Nov. 13 2013,02:20) Psalms 82:7 But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes. ONE OF THE PRINCES=SATAN.
THE SO CALLED GODS SHALL DIE,LIKE MEN.
So in order for them to die “like men”, they must be non-human entities, right?Because if God was talking ABOUT men, then Him saying they would die “like men” would be a useless thing for Him to say, right?
Now, please address the other point I made:
Jehovah is the only god worthy of our worship. Now what does that tell you?
1. Jehovah is the only god, PERIOD?
2. Jehovah is the only god we should WORSHIP?
November 14, 2013 at 1:26 am#361904mikeboll64BlockedGene,
Your post doesn't deserve a response from me until you've HONESTLY answered my question about Hebrews 1:8.
November 14, 2013 at 4:25 am#361921WakeupParticipantQuote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 14 2013,11:23) Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 13 2013,02:20) Psalms 82:7 But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes. ONE OF THE PRINCES=SATAN.
THE SO CALLED GODS SHALL DIE,LIKE MEN.
So in order for them to die “like men”, they must be non-human entities, right?Because if God was talking ABOUT men, then Him saying they would die “like men” would be a useless thing for Him to say, right?
Now, please address the other point I made:
Jehovah is the only god worthy of our worship. Now what does that tell you?
1. Jehovah is the only god, PERIOD?
2. Jehovah is the only god we should WORSHIP?
Mike b.Quote So in order for them to die “like men”, they must be non-human entities, right? Because if God was talking ABOUT men, then Him saying they would die “like men” would be a useless thing for Him to say, right?
Now, please address the other point I made:
Jehovah is the only god worthy of our worship. Now what does that tell you?
1. Jehovah is the only god, PERIOD?
2. Jehovah is the only god we should WORSHIP?
They that think;and have the attitude of being a god,
will die like men,because they are not God.
they are men;flesh and blood.I have never said otherwise:
Only the Father YHWH and the Lamb is worthy to be worshipped.Revelation 4:10 The four and twenty elders fall down before him that sat on the throne, and worship him that liveth for ever and ever, and cast their crowns before the throne, saying,
Revelation 4:11 Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.
Revelation 5:12 Saying with a loud voice, **Worthy is the Lamb** that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing.
Revelation 5:13 And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, ***and unto the Lamb for ever and ever***.
Revelation 5:14 And the four beasts said, Amen. And the four and twenty elders fell down and worshipped him that liveth for ever and ever.
wakeup.
November 14, 2013 at 3:10 pm#361948GeneBalthropParticipantQuote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 14 2013,11:26) Gene, Your post doesn't deserve a response from me until you've HONESTLY answered my question about Hebrews 1:8.
Mike…….And when are you going to “HONESTLY” answer this. 1 Cor 8:4..> We know that there is no idol in the world and that there is “NO” GOD, but “ONE”.Mike I have “Honestly' answered it several times and even in the above Post i answered it. Is it my fault you do not except it?, Using an excuse, like I did not “honestly” answer your question is just an excuse to avoid the scriptures I quoted, it is Just your usual way to avoid the Truth, because you have no answer, Talking about being “Honest” now that is a Joke if I ever heard one. If anyone is not being Honest here it is You Mike. IMO
peace and love……………………………gene
November 15, 2013 at 1:03 am#361976mikeboll64BlockedQuote (Wakeup @ Nov. 13 2013,21:25) They that think;and have the attitude of being a god,
will die like men,because they are not God.
they are men;flesh and blood.
Wakeup,Even men who DON'T think and have the attitude of being a god will die as men, right?
So what point would God have in telling MEN they would die like men? Of course they, as men, already KNEW they would someday die like all men do, right?
Instead, God was talking to the part of His heavenly counsel that went awry, passing judgment on these particular heavenly beings, and foretelling that they would someday die just like men die.
In other words, if God said they would die LIKE men, then God wasn't actually talking TO men.
Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 13 2013,21:25) Only the Father YHWH and the Lamb is worthy to be worshipped.
Only the Father is worthy of our worship. We are to honor and pay homage to the Son – but worship only the Lord, our God. Jesus told this same thing to Satan, remember? In fact, Jesus worships the same ONE God we are supposed to worship, Wakeup.About that question, I would like a DIRECT answer.
If there is only ONE God that is WORTHY OF OUR WORSHIP, then does it mean there is literally only one God in existence? Or that only ONE OF the gods in existence is worthy of our worship?
Which one does it mean?
Because if there is LITERALLY only one God, period – then it's senseless to say that there is only one God we should worship.
Consider this example:
We are only to worship the Taj Mahal that is in India.
Well, since that is the ONLY Taj Mahal in existence, we don't have to specify WHICH Taj Mahal we are to worship, right? So the statement above is nonsensical, and the words “that is in India” are unnecessary.
Now consider this one:
We are only to worship the tree that lies dead center of the Forrest of Lebanon.
In this case, since there are MANY trees on earth, it IS necessary to specify exactly WHICH tree we are to worship.
So, the reason we are told WHICH god we are to worship is simply because there are MANY of them, and we are to worship only ONE of the MANY.
Are you getting this? Or am I going too fast?
November 15, 2013 at 1:05 am#361978mikeboll64BlockedQuote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 14 2013,08:10) Mike I have “Honestly' answered it several times………
No you haven't, Gene.When you can say, Yes Mike, Jesus is the Son who is called “O God” in Hebrews 1:8, then you have answered it honestly.
Until then, I'm not interested in anything you have to say on the matter.
November 15, 2013 at 1:16 am#361982kerwinParticipantMike,
How do mere men die that is different the human sons of God?
November 15, 2013 at 1:37 am#361984WakeupParticipantQuote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 15 2013,11:03) Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 13 2013,21:25) They that think;and have the attitude of being a god,
will die like men,because they are not God.
they are men;flesh and blood.
Wakeup,Even men who DON'T think and have the attitude of being a god will die as men, right?
So what point would God have in telling MEN they would die like men? Of course they, as men, already KNEW they would someday die like all men do, right?
Instead, God was talking to the part of His heavenly counsel that went awry, passing judgment on these particular heavenly beings, and foretelling that they would someday die just like men die.
In other words, if God said they would die LIKE men, then God wasn't actually talking TO men.
Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 13 2013,21:25) Only the Father YHWH and the Lamb is worthy to be worshipped.
Only the Father is worthy of our worship. We are to honor and pay homage to the Son – but worship only the Lord, our God. Jesus told this same thing to Satan, remember? In fact, Jesus worships the same ONE God we are supposed to worship, Wakeup.About that question, I would like a DIRECT answer.
If there is only ONE God that is WORTHY OF OUR WORSHIP, then does it mean there is literally only one God in existence? Or that only ONE OF the gods in existence is worthy of our worship?
Which one does it mean?
Because if there is LITERALLY only one God, period – then it's senseless to say that there is only one God we should worship.
Consider this example:
We are only to worship the Taj Mahal that is in India.
Well, since that is the ONLY Taj Mahal in existence, we don't have to specify WHICH Taj Mahal we are to worship, right? So the statement above is nonsensical, and the words “that is in India” are unnecessary.
Now consider this one:
We are only to worship the tree that lies dead center of the Forrest of Lebanon.
In this case, since there are MANY trees on earth, it IS necessary to specify exactly WHICH tree we are to worship.
So, the reason we are told WHICH god we are to worship is simply because there are MANY of them, and we are to worship only ONE of the MANY.
Are you getting this? Or am I going too fast?
Mike B.One at the time: to avoid misunderstanding.
Re' man with an attitude of being a god:
Ezekiel 28:1 The word of the LORD came again unto me, saying,
Ezekiel 28:2 Son of man, say unto
**the prince of Tyrus**,
Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because
**thine heart is lifted up**,
and thou hast said,
**I am a God**, **I sit in the seat of God**,
in the midst of the seas;
**yet thou art a man**, **and not God**
, though thou *set thine heart as the heart of God*:Ezekiel 28:3 Behold, thou art wiser than Daniel; there is no secret that they can hide from thee:
Ezekiel 28:4 With thy wisdom and with thine understanding thou hast gotten thee riches, and hast gotten gold and silver into thy treasures:
Ezekiel 28:5 By thy great wisdom and by thy traffick hast thou increased thy riches, and thine heart is **lifted up** because of thy riches:
Ezekiel 28:6 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Because thou hast ***set thine heart as the heart of God***;
Ezekiel 28:7 Behold, therefore I will bring strangers upon thee, the terrible of the nations: and they shall draw their swords against the beauty of thy wisdom, and they shall defile thy brightness.
Ezekiel 28:8 They shall bring thee down to the pit, and thou shalt die the deaths of them that are slain in the midst of the seas.
Ezekiel 28:9 ***Wilt thou yet say before him that slayeth
thee, I am God?**
but thou shalt be a man, and no God, in the hand of him that slayeth thee.wakeup.
November 15, 2013 at 1:37 am#361985mikeboll64BlockedAll men die the exact same way, Kerwin.
All will also be raised and judged. It is only AFTER the judgment that some will go here, and others there. It is not until then that the “human sons of God” will be distinguished from every other human being.
Even Abraham, David, and Samuel died, Kerwin. All men die. And all men die like men.
That is my point. It is ludicrous to tell a MAN he is going to die like a man. It is OBVIOUS that God was speaking to the gods in his heavenly counsel in Psalm 82.
Obvious to me, anyway.
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