Jodi replied to the topic Private Preexistence Thread For Jodi & Mike Only in the forum Debates 2 years, 8 months ago
Hi Mike,
If you could please address the below,
Matthew 1 is giving us the BOOK of Jesus’s origin, his genetic line of whom he was begotten from to establish that he is thus a bio son of Abraham and David, that BOOK OF JESUS’s origin goes from Abraham to Joseph. Joseph is without question the bio father of Jesus according to Matthew. Mary became…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Private Preexistence Thread For Jodi & Mike Only in the forum Debates 2 years, 8 months ago
Hi Mike,
Here is one,
Romans 15:12 And again, Esaias saith, There shall be a root of Jesse, and he that shall rise to reign over the Gentiles; in him shall the Gentiles trust.
In the OT in Isaiah 11:10 this word root/ sheresh figurately means, of people involving firmness or permanence, in Isaiah 11:1
Rev 221:6 I Jesus have sent mine angel to…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 2 years, 8 months ago
Mike…..your drawing has nothing to what i believe or have ever said, so that is a lie, but it is more like your “flat earth” BS, WHERE “YOU” BELIEVE, THE SUN AND MOON ARE WITHIN “THE DOME”. Don’t try to pass if of on something i said. Because that, is a lie.
What you only prove is this, “it’s hard to catch a snake, in a brair patc…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 2 years, 8 months ago
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Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 2 years, 8 months ago
You forgot one other point
The graphic Danny posted explains clearly what the scriptures teach – with the exception that the artist put the sun, moon and stars just below the raqia, when they are actually IN the raqia.
God called the raqia heaven. And God dwells in heaven. So you and Danny also need to place God below the waters where the stars a…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 2 years, 8 months ago
Stop lying Mike
Clearly you were misleading berean about the sun distance being the consensus on these varying temperatures. Grow up and own it Mike. You live in a fantasy pizza world where lies are truth and truth are lies. You even lie about the very statement you were clearly making. You said:
If the heat from the Sun traveled 93,000,000 miles…
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 2 years, 8 months ago
Proclaimer: Danny God called the raqia heaven and scripture is clear that God is in heaven. So you need to place God below the waters if you are sticking to your definition of raqia / dome. Please amend. If not,then you do not really believe this and you should be honest about that.
The graphic Danny posted explains clearly what the scriptures…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 2 years, 8 months ago
Proclaimer: Which you are using as YOUR argument to convince berean. So take responsibility.
Yes, I clearly used a few paragraphs from Eric Dubay’s “200 Proofs Earth is Not a Spinning Ball”.
Proclaimer: If not the scientific consensus, then who exactly is Eric and yourself trying to debunk in this 200 BS proofs?
This is a real question Mike. W…
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 2 years, 8 months ago
Mike: That was my point, Gene. The waters above the firmament are ABOVE the sun, moon, and stars.
Berean: Hi Mike,
Biblically that is correct.
AND clouds are BELOW THE SUN, MOON AND STARS…RIGHT?Yes Berean… that is Biblically and scientifically correct. The Bible doesn’t lie about the age of our world or the shape of it. Real science…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Private Preexistence Thread For Jodi & Mike Only in the forum Debates 2 years, 8 months ago
Jodi: The fact of the matter is Luke 3:23 is saying that Jesus is the son of Joseph and Mathew makes it certain that we are to believe that he is a bio son of Joseph.
How many times do we have to go through this? Jodi, did Mary become pregnant by Joseph? Yes or No please.
Jodi: …wouldn’t people have just supposed that Joseph, being Mary’…
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Private Preexistence Thread For Jodi & Mike Only in the forum Debates 2 years, 8 months ago
Jodi: This was THE WORD that was made true in the flesh of Jesus of Nazareth…
You listed an Isaiah passage in which Yahweh prophesied about a coming PERSON, and then concluded that this PERSON was the word(s) that Yahweh spoke. 🤔
By the way, John doesn’t say the Word came to be “made true IN the flesh of Jesus”, Jodi. He says the Word BE…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Private Preexistence Thread For Jodi & Mike Only in the forum Debates 2 years, 8 months ago
Hi Mike,
The fact of the matter is Luke 3:23 is saying that Jesus is the son of Joseph and Mathew makes it certain that we are to believe that he is a bio son of Joseph. Don’t lose sight of that. But with that being said, I am wondering if it crossed your mind, that the author of Luke is saying that people thought Joseph was Jesus’s father just…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Private Preexistence Thread For Jodi & Mike Only in the forum Debates 2 years, 8 months ago
Jodi: The bible doesn’t contradict, you just misinterpret.
You haven’t mentioned a single contradiction in my interpretation of scripture – and so I don’t know why you would even say such a thing. Maybe expose one of my contradictions first, and then we can talk about who is misinterpreting what.
Thanks.
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Private Preexistence Thread For Jodi & Mike Only in the forum Debates 2 years, 8 months ago
Jodi: As far as Jesus being the root of David,
Rev 5:5 And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.
Rev 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the of…
Jodi replied to the topic Private Preexistence Thread For Jodi & Mike Only in the forum Debates 2 years, 8 months ago
Hi Mike,
14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
Don’t you believe that Jesus left his glory behind when he became flesh?
THE WORD OF GOD,
Isaiah 42:1 Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect, in whom my soul delighteth; I…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Private Preexistence Thread For Jodi & Mike Only in the forum Debates 2 years, 8 months ago
Jodi: Hi Mike,
Luke 3:23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being#stm5752 (as was supposed/Nomizo/to think) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli,
Jesus was the son of Joseph just as people thought he was.
I conceded the “according to the flesh” argument because in each case, it doesn’t unequivocally mean what I…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Private Preexistence Thread For Jodi & Mike Only in the forum Debates 2 years, 8 months ago
Hi Mike,
Jesus is the ONLY mortal man to have received the Spirit not by measure. That is HUGE! We are told that is WHEN he was SENT and HOW he was able to go and do God’s work, that is how he was able to be our savior.
The flesh profits us nothing. Meaning that there is nothing within man himself that can bring him to the kingdom of God. Jesus…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Private Preexistence Thread For Jodi & Mike Only in the forum Debates 2 years, 8 months ago
Jodi: You say Mike a spirit entity needed to come down to earth and be MADE INTO FLESH to be our savior.
No. Rather I say what the Bible says… that Jesus was existing in one form, emptied himself and was made into a different form. I don’t use the word “needed”, but only repeat what the Bible teaches.
Jodi: Jesus however says that he cou…
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 2 years, 8 months ago
Pretender, first of all, I didn’t say those words above. That was a copy/paste from Eric Dubay’s “200 Proofs”.
Which you are using as YOUR argument to convince berean. So take responsibility.
Secondly, there is nothing within Eric’s statement that says anything whatsoever about what “science says” about the reason for the seasons on earth.
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Private Preexistence Thread For Jodi & Mike Only in the forum Debates 2 years, 8 months ago
Jodi: Mike, do you agree that Jesus having been anointed with the Spirit at the river Jordan thus made him the anointed, our Christ?
Hard to say. Was Cyrus God’s prophesied anointed one from the moment he was born? Or did he become that when he wrote his decree to rebuild Jerusalem? What do you think?
Jodi: Jesus said, a man must be born of w…
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