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    gadam123 replied to the topic in the forum Site-Wide Activity 5 years, 3 months ago

    Hi proclaimer,

    The main narrative with an old and new testament is that the old gave the law which condemned sin in mankind. It promised a messiah however.

    The new is about the messiah, his identity, his teaching, his mission, and the body he created to carry on his work.

    In other words, if the old was to have everything, then there would be no…

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    God is speaking

    For to which of the angels did God ever say,

     

    God is not speaking

    But about the Son he says,

    The Son says…? The Psalmist says…?

    Psalm 45 is directed at a human king. Some say Solomon. Another meaning of the word ‘theos’ is mighty one. If this can be said of a human king, then how much more the one who sits on throne next…[Read more]

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    More globe earth trickery

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    God is speaking

    For to which of the angels did God ever say,

     

    God is not speaking

    But about the Son he says,

    The Son says…? The Psalmist says…?

    Psalm 45 is directed at a human king. Some say Solomon. Another meaning of the word ‘theos’ is mighty one. If this can be said of a human king, then how much more the one who sits on throne next…[Read more]

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    “For the transgressions of My people He was stricken”. What people was Isaiah part of? The people of Israel, of course. So “my people” refers to the people of Israel. Therefore Israel cannot be the Suffering Servant of the Lord.

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    Undebunking “The Forbidden Chapter” Isaiah 53 Conspiracy
    The 17th century Jewish historian, Raphael Levi, admitted that long ago the rabbis used to read Isaiah 53 in synagogues, but after the chapter caused “arguments and great confusion” the rabbis decided that the simplest thing would be to just take that prophecy out of the Haftarah reading…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Site-Wide Activity 5 years, 3 months ago

    When was the son begotten as you compare him with Logos and Wisdom?

    If the messiah’s name is Jesus, then Jesus is the Christ.

    If Jesus name is the Word of God, then he is the Word of God.

    He has eyes like blazing fire, and many royal crowns on His head. He has a name written on Him that only He Himself knows. He is dressed in a robe dipped in…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Site-Wide Activity 5 years, 3 months ago

    These were the quotations by the Pre-Nicene Fathers quoting the same New Testament and nothing new in these statements. Of course there is no support for these statements in the Hebrew Bible.

    The main narrative with an old and new testament is that the old gave the law and condemd sin in mankind. It promises a messiah.

    The new is about the…[Read more]

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    HI Gene,

    YOU: You tell us Jesus preexisted, but as what,  you don’t know, nor does your fellow teachers the Trinitarians know either. 

    Read, but for a change don’t let your carnal-minded reasoning overrules you!

    Colossians `1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God,….

    God Gene, IS AN “INVISIBLE” SPIRIT to the extent that not even the spi…[Read more]

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    Carme

    Don’t forger that:

    1. The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand.( John 3:35)
    2. He received EVERYTHING from the Father. 
    3. John 13: 3
      Jesus, who knew that the Father had given all things into his hand, that he had come from God, and was going to God,

      John 17: 2
      as you have given him power over all flesh, that he…

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    Hi Gene,

    YOU: when Almighty God himself comes and Jesus offers up his Kingdom to him, and

    becomes subject to him.

    ME: FINALLY Gene, YOU JUST CONFIRMED THAT 
    JESUS CHRIST RIGHT NOW IS SUBJECT TO NO ONE!
    Peace and love in Jesus Christ

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    gadam123 replied to the topic in the forum Site-Wide Activity 5 years, 3 months ago

    Hi Proclaimer,

    If we read these quotes with an honest heart we can with certainty say that these early Christians taught that the one true God is indeed the Father and that the Son (the Logos) who resided in God as reason and wisdom was given birth to become his own life, but is joined with God in Spirit, just as we can be. The Son the only…

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    Berean replied to the topic in the forum Site-Wide Activity 5 years, 3 months ago

    To all

    THE BIBLE REMAINS THE ONLY RELIABLE AUTHORITY THAT SHOULD DECIDE IN ALL DEBATES, AND IT TRANSMITS US THROUGH PAUL AMONG OTHER THAN:

    ….. nevertheless for us there is only one God, the Father, FROM Whom all things come and for who we are, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, BY Whom are all things and through whom we are.

    WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND…[Read more]

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    The video cannot be seen, too bad.

     

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    Hi to all

    Attacks, wars, persecutions, slavery … the world in which we live is filled with violence, and violence everywhere responds to violence.

    But we believe that love, compassion, gentleness and forgiveness are also solutions, to stop this violence! Only love can surprise and make a difference, as this testimony from a Thai policeman…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Site-Wide Activity 5 years, 3 months ago

    To all…..Irenaeus.  (CD. 185 AD). is exactly right, he has presented the truth correctly, if you truly study what he wrote you will come to see very clearly there is “only” one true God, that created everything by himself and not through or by Jesus Christ, nor  anyone else either.

    peace and love to you all and yours……….gene

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    I appreciate your comparison of Taj Mahal with the creation of God. But the problem here, Taj was not made before (the birth) or marriage of Muntaz to Shahjahan, the Indian Emperor.

    I think this statement is irrelevant because the pupose of saying this was to argue how one person can go to the utmost length for another because of love. Knowing…[Read more]

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    John 14: 16 And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Advocate, to be with you forever. 26 But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you everything, and remind you of all that I have said to you.

    Who is God? He is the Father.

    What is God? He is spirit.

    God exists outside his own crea…[Read more]

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    John 14: 7 If you know me, you will know my Father also. From now on you do know him and have seen him.”8 Philip said to him, “Lord, show us the Father, and we will be satisfied.” 9 Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you all this time, Philip, and you still do not know me? Whoever has seen me has seen the Father.

    You really cannot get the Tri…[Read more]

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    Matt 28:19 Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit

    At best, we cannot say that Matthew 28:19 teaches a Trinity, but could certainly lead people in that direction if their hearts were wayward.  However, this is one of these verses that are thought to have been a…[Read more]

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