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    Hi To all

    At all times, God’s witnesses have exposed themselves
    stigma and persecution for the sake of the truth.
    Joseph was mistreated and imprisoned, because he kept
    his faithfulness and integrity (see Genesis 39: 1-23). David, the
    chosen messenger of God, was driven out by his enemies as
    a beast of prey (see 1 Samuel 24.1.12). Daniel was…[Read more]

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    Johnyy replied to the topic in the forum Site-Wide Activity 5 years, 3 months ago

    @t8

    Hi Proclaimer,

    I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.

    But the question is if He is also God or just a god?

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    gadam123 replied to the topic Isaiah 53 in the forum Prophecy 5 years, 3 months ago

    Suffering Messiah was not known to Jews of Jesus’ time the same is clearly evident even in the earliest strands of the NT writings. Here are few such verses;

    1 Cor 1:

    23 but we proclaim Christ crucified, a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles,

    Here Paul clearly knew that suffering Messiah was not accepted by the Jews of his ti…[Read more]

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    gadam123 replied to the topic Isaiah 53 in the forum Prophecy 5 years, 3 months ago

    Adam……The one who persecuted And cast Israel out of their land was God himself,  and he used the Assyrians to do it, because of all their unfaithfulness to him. Adam,   Don’t let them make you  think they were this ” Holy” pious,  persecuted servant, people of God,  because that is far from the truth.

    Jer 3:8…..And I saw  when for all the cause…

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Isaiah 53 in the forum Prophecy 5 years, 3 months ago

    Adam……The one who persecuted And cast Israel out of their land was God himself,  and he used the Assyrians to do it, because of all their unfaithfulness to him. Adam,   Don’t let them make you  think they were this ” Holy” pious,  persecuted servant, people of God,  because that is far from the truth.

    Jer 3:8…..And I saw  when for all the cause…[Read more]

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    Adam, do you know the saying “hindsight is 20/20”?

    If not, it is explained here:

    It is easier to clearly reevaluate past actions or decisions than when they are being made or done; things are clearer or more obvious when they are reflected upon. A reference to the visual acuity of normal eyesight (20/20 vis…

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Isaiah 53 in the forum Prophecy 5 years, 3 months ago

    It is logical that those who reject the messiah will reject the idea that Isaiah 53 is about the messiah because if it was, then the only person who fits the description in world history is Jesus of Nazareth.

    Jesus Christ bore the sin of many including myself. But gadam, did Israel do that for you? If so, I think you are hopeless. Instead put…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Isaiah 53 in the forum Prophecy 5 years, 3 months ago

    It is true that things like this are hidden from the wise of this world and instead revealed to the innocent.

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    gadam123 replied to the topic Isaiah 53 in the forum Prophecy 5 years, 3 months ago

    Hi Proclaimer,

    This refers to the Messiah’s first coming and rejection. No mystery here. Jesus is the only one who fulfilled this prophecy.

    As per Hebrew Bible there are no two comings of Messiah it is purely Christian creation. Coming to Isaiah 53 as I quoted in other thread it is not about any Messiah. Here again I am quoting the arguments on I…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic Isaiah 53 in the forum Prophecy 5 years, 3 months ago

    This refers to the Messiah’s first coming and rejection. No mystery here. Jesus is the only one who fulfilled this prophecy.

    I agree! A couple of years ago, I was a teacher of English as a second language to several refugees through a ministry held at my church. I had about five of the students of different faiths, Muslim mainly, sit in a row a…[Read more]

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    Hi Adam,

    You said:

    So you think that I am offended by so called Rock of offense?

    Yes, you reject the stone that has become the precious cornerstone, obviously. Jesus is not the Messiah according to you and the NT is not God’s Word, also according to you.

    You also said:

    Your claim of two Yahwehs is some thing strange to Hebrew Bible.

    This is what…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Site-Wide Activity 5 years, 3 months ago

    “Christ Himself, therefore, together with the Father, is the God of the living, who spoke to Moses, and who was also manifested to the fathers.”

    Yes, he was the one who appeared to Moses. How do you not understand this? If you have ears to hear, then listen to these verses. They are telling you that God is invisible, a Spirit, and no one can see…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Isaiah 53 in the forum Prophecy 5 years, 3 months ago

    This refers to the Messiah’s first coming and rejection. No mystery here. Jesus is the only one who fulfilled this prophecy.

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    Amen Danny

     
    There is one body, 
    and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;

    One Lord,
    one faith,
    one baptism,

    One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all. 

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    Adam……The exact time of the coming of the Messiah written  by Daniel, was given to the Jewish King Herod  by the Jewish scribes themselves, that is why he went about killing the Male children under two years old in Jerusalem, sure seems they know when the Messiah would be born right? How do the Jews disclaim that fact in their denial of Jesus…

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    The Bible is the inspired Word of God​.
    The Hebrews didn’t develop their God to be the only God.
    Yahweh was and is the one and only God.
    “I am Yahweh, and there is no one else.
    Besides me, there is no God.” Isaiah 45:5

  • Profile picture of Berean

    Hi To all

     

    Are you tired of hearing about disasters? News agencies find it difficult to keep up with the frenetic succession of earthquakes, cyclones, floods, fires and tragedies in transport by land, sea or air. It is not just an improvement in journalism; this is a substantial increase in these facts. Jesus said that there would be “anguish…[Read more]

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    Adam……The exact time of the coming of the Messiah written  by Daniel, was given to the Jewish King Herod  by the Jewish scribes themselves, that is why he went about killing the Male children under two years old in Jerusalem, sure seems they know when the Messiah would be born right? How do the Jews disclaim that fact in their denial of Jesus…[Read more]

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    Hi To all

    YHVH IS THE DIVINE NAME OF THE FATHER AND SON.

    IN PSALMS 24 WE SEE THIS FOR THE SON…..

     
    Hebrew Transliterated
    24:8 MY ZH MLK HKBVD YHVH ‘yZVZ VGBVUr YHVH GBVUr MLChMH.
     

    Latin Vulgate
    24:8 quis est iste rex gloriae Dominus fortis et potens Dominus fortis in proelio

     

    King James Version
    24:8 Who is this King of glory? The LORD s…[Read more]

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    The Divine Council motif in the Hebrew Bible

    §1. The Ugaritic and Canaanite Background to the Divine Council
    It is generally accepted that Israelite religion “was much closer to Canaanite religion” than to the religion that the Hebrew Bible advocates (Cook 2005: 7). It is most likely that Israelite religion was directly influenced by, and deve…[Read more]

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