GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Even demons believe he is the son of God in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 3 months ago
Mike….It’s a different body then the one buried, but just like that seed planted it have every genetic code the PREEXISTING BODY HAD, so when planted it (replicates the exact same body it came from) not a different “kind” of body. Even nature shows us all that. The seed in the man will replicate the physical body of the exact man who it posse…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Was Jesus Jewish Messiah – What does the Hebrew Bible really say? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 5 years, 3 months ago
Hi Adam,
Regarding this passage:
2 Chron 7:14 if my people who are called by my name humble themselves, pray, seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin and heal their land.
You said:
The remedy for sin as you mentioned is taken from Hebrew Bible only not my creation.
Seeking the…
Proclaimer replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Lightenup in the forum Debates 5 years, 3 months ago
So if Jesus is God, then he is the son of himself.
No.
He is either God or His Son.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Even demons believe he is the son of God in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 3 months ago
Nature is not idetity.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Was Jesus Jewish Messiah – What does the Hebrew Bible really say? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 5 years, 3 months ago
2 Chron 7:14 if my people who are called by my name humble themselves, pray, seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin and heal their land.
This is not personal but us about the collective. If yiy could be forgiven for all sin, then why the need for the shedding of blood to cover…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Was Jesus Jewish Messiah – What does the Hebrew Bible really say? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 5 years, 3 months ago
The soul that sins will die. You will die. We all will die. Is that it. The God of the cosmos will let us all eternally die. Never to have life again.
We have a glorious hope because we accepted the messiah. What is your hope gadam?
Lightenup replied to the topic Even demons believe he is the son of God in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 3 months ago
Proclaimer said:
Clue. He is the image of the invisible God. He is the Word. He speaks on behalf of God. He represents God. The Messenger of God.
You have probably heard the saying that goes something like this:
If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, acts like a duck, has the name “duck,” is it not a duck?
If the Son of God looks like the…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Even demons believe he is the son of God in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 3 months ago
The NT teaches about the natral body and spiritual body. How we imagine that is up for grabs. But it is part of the NT.
gadam123 replied to the topic Even demons believe he is the son of God in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 3 months ago
Since he was raised from the dead in flesh, and flesh cannot enter the kingdom of God (where Jesus is now), then Jesus’ flesh body had to have been transformed at some point during his ascension from earth to heaven.
Sorry I think this is another speculation which is not found in the NT.
gadam123 replied to the topic Was Jesus Jewish Messiah – What does the Hebrew Bible really say? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 5 years, 3 months ago
Hi Adam,
You wrote this verse recently as the remedy that YHVH gave for sin:
2 Chron 7:14 if my people who are called by my name humble themselves, pray, seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin and heal their land.
Have you been seeking His face? If so, what does the face of YHVH…Proclaimer replied to the topic Even demons believe he is the son of God in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 3 months ago
Mike, who was it that apologized for using the word lie. I doubt that was me. Are you saying that it was me?
Now to be rational about what you have said above. I believed and still believe you were and are teaching lies on this subject. I even spelled out that to teach lies, one must be an intenional liar or deceived.
Please explain why this…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Even demons believe he is the son of God in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 3 months ago
Sorry no such expectation of Virgin born Messiah by the Hebrew please.
Young girl.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Even demons believe he is the son of God in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 3 months ago
Yahweh appeared to him by the oaks of Mamre, as he sat in the tent door in the heat of the day.
He is the image of the invisible God. He is the Word. He speaks on behalf of God. He represents God. The Messenger of God.
gadam123 replied to the topic Was Jesus Jewish Messiah – What does the Hebrew Bible really say? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 5 years, 3 months ago
Then you deny that you admitted that. However, your next sentence that YOU wrote tells me how the different sects of the Jews interpret things differently.
These are your words which seem like you are speaking out of two sides of your mouth:
Adam says: I have only replied your post to me on the sects of Jewish people. But I have not admitted on…
gadam123 replied to the topic Even demons believe he is the son of God in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 3 months ago
Adam, is it true that the Hebrews were expecting this coming messiah to be born of a virgin?
Sorry no such expectation of Virgin born Messiah by the Hebrew please.
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Even demons believe he is the son of God in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 3 months ago
Gene: Mike… The sown seed becomes another body of it’s “own” kind, not a different kind, so is it with the resurrection brother.
I don’t see how you could conclude that it would be another body of it’s own kind, when Paul’s entire teaching was about how the heavenly body is DIFFERENT than the earthly body. Paul even uses the word “changed” to…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Even demons believe he is the son of God in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 3 months ago
Adam: It seems to me that the Gospel writers were not agreeing to Paul’s view on the resurrection. The resurrected body of Jesus seemed to be the recitation of his crucified body
There is no disagreement, Adam. Read my response to Gene in the second to the last post on page 80…[Read more]
gadam123 replied to the topic Was Jesus Jewish Messiah – What does the Hebrew Bible really say? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 5 years, 3 months ago
Who is the Son of man Dan 7:13?
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Even demons believe he is the son of God in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 3 months ago
Adam: The Book of Daniel is a 2nd-century BCE biblical apocalypse with an ostensible 6th century BCE setting… he seems to know nothing about the reconstruction of the Temple or about the actual circumstances of Antiochus’ death in late 164 BCE. Chapters 10–12 must therefore have been written between 167 and 164 BCE.
…Daniel is exclu…
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Even demons believe he is the son of God in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 3 months ago
Adam: Sorry my post on son of God with examples given was about human being called as son of God and not about spirit beings or angelic beings as you rightly mentioned. The context was about Messiah who was meant to be a human being as per the Hebrew Bible. Hope that will remove the confusion.
Adam, is it true that the Hebrews were expecting…[Read more]
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