As for myths being weaved into the NT that are not present in the OT. What is the first myth that comes to mind?

The so called preexistence of the Messiah and making him divine or god. What else you need?

That the law condemns and we pray forever and ask for forgiveness? If so, how do we know your interpretation is not a misinterpretation? Do you have special revelation or something?

What is this repeated ‘condemnation’ my friend? I think you are struck at Paul’s idea of treating the Torah as obsolete. Yes asking forgiveness is a continuous process…[Read more]

Newton physics then Theory of relativity. A deviation or a progression? I guess you would say deviation given that Newton did not mention many things that Einstein did.

You are entitled to your mental constructs. It’s just that I think they are inadequate.

Your comparison of two different concepts is no where related to what I am questioning h…[Read more]

Grasping at straws again.

This is what I am questing on the writings and the new secret revelation of the NT as they had deviated much from their primary source the Hebrew Bible on Messiah.

Newtown physics then Theory of relativity. A deviation or a progression? I guess you would say deviation given that Newtown did not mention many things that Einstein did.

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This was purely Christian misinterpretation of the Torah, first by Paul then by his followers.

I see. What is the correct interpretation? That the law condemns and we pray forever and ask for forgiveness? If so, how do we know your interpretation is not a misinterpretation? Do you have special revelation or something?

The same thing applies to any one here as they are sticking to their age old myths which are not based on the Hebrew Bible. I too can quote the same logics for you too my friend.

It is obvious to anyone that the NT is based on the OT. For a start, it quotes the OT more times than I know. Same goes for other books too. The question is not whether…[Read more]

The Word was with God.

So whatever form the Word was.

Spirit would be a good guess.

But there is no clear teaching in scripture on this as far as I know.

So I don’t want to fall into the error of saying something is when I would only be making a logical guess.

I’ll state it like this.

Do you have a fishing rod? Yes.

Do you catch fish? Yes

Are you a fisherman?

See that. Not all people who catch fish are fishermen.

Not all who sin are sinners.

Not all who speak lies are liars.

At what point do you become a fisherman, sinner, or liar?

When you practice it.

I cannot tell you what exactly the t…[Read more]

I’ll state it like this.

Do you have a fishing rod? Yes.

Do you catch fish? Yes

Are you a fisherman?

See that. Not all people who catch fish are fishermen.

Not all who sin are sinners.

Not all who speak lies are liars.

At what point do you become a fisherman, sinner, or liar?

When you practice it.

I cannot tell you what exactly the…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  No, a lie is anything that is not true.

You’re wrong.  I await your DIRECT response to my previous post… especially the answer to the 3 questions at the end.

LU:  YHVH is the particular name of a theos who is the First and the Last, the King of Israel, the Maker of Heaven and Earth, the Redeemer, the Good Shepherd, the Lord of lords, the Savior, the Giver of everlasting life, and the Forgiver of sins.

First and last: There are many different “first and lasts”.  For example, Adam was the first and l…[Read more]

Removing all feelings and emotions and looking at the facts only, those who teach lies are either doing it intentionally or are deceived in that area at least. If a person is deceived and then shown proof or even strong evidence to the contrary, the person has a choice, they either change or become more wilfully deceived and more wilfully they…[Read more]

Gene:  Mike….It’s a different body then the one buried,  but just like that seed planted it have every genetic code the PREEXISTING BODY HAD,  so when planted it (replicates the exact same body it came from) not a different “kind” of body.

You are adding your own speculation to the scriptures, Gene.

Gene:  “Now if the spirit that raised Jesus…

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Adam:  Sorry I think this is another speculation which is not found in the NT.

How so?  If you read the second to the last post on page 806 like I requested, you’ll see that my argument is sound.  If you want to comment further to me on this particular subject, do so by quoting and rebutting the points I made in the aforementioned post.

Proclaimer:  Mike, I believed and still believe you were and are teaching lies on that subject.

A LIE is the INTENTIONAL act of PURPOSELY telling someone something that you KNOW is UNTRUE for the sole purpose of DECEIVING them.

Proclaimer: I even spelled out that to teach lies, one must be an intenional liar or deceived. I never said which c…

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Hi Gene,

YOU: please show how “God spoke ” any differently, through the prophets, then he Spoke “through” the man Jesus?  A Son.  

FIRST AND FOREMOST, Gene, 

SCRIPTURES PLEASE, NOT YOUR OWN CORRUPTED VERSION. Read

Hebrews 1:1God, who, at sundry times and in divers manners,

spoke in times past to the fathers

BY THE PROPHETS,last of all, [Read more]

Adam:  Sorry no such expectation of Virgin born Messiah by the Hebrews please.

Proclaimer: Young girl.

Isaiah 7:14… Therefore the LORD Himself will give you a sign: Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a Son, and shall call His name Immanuel.

So let us think logically.

1.  In what way would an ordinary woman giving an ordinary birth be c…

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Is Jesus “Adam” and also the son of “Adam” in this verse?

1 Cor 15:45 So it is written: “The first man Adam became a living being;” the last Adam a life-giving spirit.

Can’t the Father and the Son both have the same proper name and the same nature or can they just have the same nature?

How about this then, Proclaimer:

YHVH is the particular name of a theos who is the First and the Last, the King of Israel, the Maker of Heaven and Earth, the Redeemer, the Good Shepherd, the Lord of lords, the Savior, the Giver of everlasting life, and the Forgiver of sins.

Jesus is the particular name of a theos who is the First and the Last,…[Read more]