Then you deny that you admitted that. However, your next sentence that YOU wrote tells me how the different sects of the Jews interpret things differently.

These are your words which seem like you are speaking out of two sides of your mouth:

Adam says: I have only replied your post to me on the sects of Jewish people. But I have not admitted on…

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Adam, is it true that the Hebrews were expecting this coming messiah to be born of a virgin?

Sorry no such expectation of Virgin born Messiah by the Hebrew please.

Gene: Mike… The sown seed becomes another body of it’s “own” kind,  not a different kind,  so is it with the resurrection brother. 

I don’t see how you could conclude that it would be another body of it’s own kind, when Paul’s entire teaching was about how the heavenly body is DIFFERENT than the earthly body.  Paul even uses the word “changed” to…[Read more]

Adam: It seems to me that the Gospel writers were not agreeing to Paul’s view on the resurrection. The resurrected body of Jesus seemed to be the recitation of his crucified body

There is no disagreement, Adam.  Read my response to Gene in the second to the last post on page 80…[Read more]

Who is the Son of man Dan 7:13?

Adam:  The Book of Daniel is a 2nd-century BCE biblical apocalypse with an ostensible 6th century BCE setting… he seems to know nothing about the reconstruction of the Temple or about the actual circumstances of Antiochus’ death in late 164 BCE. Chapters 10–12 must therefore have been written between 167 and 164 BCE. 

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Adam:  Sorry my post on son of God with examples given was about human being called as son of God and not about spirit beings or angelic beings as you rightly mentioned. The context was about Messiah who was meant to be a human being as per the Hebrew Bible. Hope that will remove the confusion.

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Adam:  I think that is a gentle man’s agreement.

Agreed. 👍

Was Paasover Lamb meant for sin Atonement?

Mike……I read it as the perishable,  spiritually energized can replicate itself over and over endlessly. So in that sense ” this perishable becomes ” imperishable “.

The sown seed becomes another body of it’s “own” kind,  not a different kind,  so is it with the resurrection brother .  Why do you think scriptures say “for ever hair on you head is…[Read more]

I never made any such claim.  I claim that flesh and blood (also known as “flesh and bone” – both of which are poetic ways of saying “human being”) cannot see, enter, or inherit the kingdom of God.  If Jesus is a human being, then he’s ineligible.

As for the new bodies of those who will receive eternal life…

1 Cor 15…

38But God gives it a bo…

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Adam here is what Jesus said concerning those Jews ,

Mat 23; 15…….” woe unto you, scribe and Pharisees , hypocrites ! For you compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made,  you Make him twofold more the child of hell then yourselves “,
Adam be very very careful not to fall into  their trap brother, they have rejected every one…

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This is why the law was given. So that when grace came, it would be understood and appreciated.

This was purely Christian misinterpretation of the Torah, first by Paul then by his followers.

The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit.

The same thing applies to any one here as they are sticking to their age old myths which are not based on the Hebrew Bible. I too can quote the same…[Read more]

I’ve already explained it to you. New revelation fits with old revelation as long as it is not contradictory.

This is what I am questing on the writings and the new secret revelation of the NT as they had deviated much from their primary source the Hebrew Bible on Messiah.

Adam:  The book of Daniel is a non-prophetic book in the Hebrew Bible written in 2nd BCE by a pseudo writer.

Proof please?

Dating of Daniel as per the Historians
The Book of Daniel is a 2nd-century BCE biblical apocalypse with an ostensible 6th century BCE setting. The prophecies of Daniel are accurate down to the career of Antiochus IV E…[Read more]

Adam: In the Hebrew Bible ‘son of God’ never meant a literal divine being as imagined by the NT writers.

Gen 6:2… the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were beautiful, and they took as wives whomever they chose.

Deut 32:8… When the Most High gave to the nations their inheritance, when he divided mankind, he fixed the borders of the peop…

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Hi To all

What is Jesus doing now? Considering that he is the Son of God, and that he suffered indescribable agony on this earth, until the cross, it seems right that he can enjoy a long vacation. We can imagine him enjoying a deserved rest, receiving the praises of the heavenly armies, and also that of a few faithful on earth.

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Polytheism?

And denial that Jesus is the son of YHWH?

No to both. The one great God YHVH is both God and Lord, Father and Son, who alone created the cosmos.

So I say again… there is no need for the word “LIE” to ever leave your mouth in reference to anyone on this site – as if you know their heart or intent. And there is no need for you to talk down to anyone here – as if you have more “Holy Spirit” than them or enlightenment or whatever.  You do fine making solid scriptural based arguments here…

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