Why call him Messiah if he was not satisfying the conditions for Hebrew Messiah?

What’s the no1 thing that he didnt fulfill that comes to your mind?

Unfulfilled prophecy simply means that it is yet to happen.  NOT because hundreds of years have passed, with no sign of when it will all will take place.  Ezekiel 33:33  When it come, as surely they will.…

The list of predictions of when those people you quote, thought they would happen, is proof that we cannot know the Day when the Lord wi…[Read more]

 Gadam

The Church of Christ is militant and imperfect, but soon it will be trionphante and ready for the return in glory of our Lord Jesus Christ, it is a matter of preparation ….
Revelation 19
And I heard like a voice of a great crowd, like the sound of great waters, and like the sound of loud thunders, saying, Hallelujah! For the Lord our…[Read more]

These passages and many others like them tell us that a significant eschatological event was to occur in the lifetime of those who heard and read the prophecies.   Quote Gadam

No; it doesn’t.  Because no significant eschatological event did occur in the first century.  The conquest of Judah by Rome in 70 AD was only the fulfilment of Luke 21:20…

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Unfulfilled Christian religious predictions

This article lists unfulfilled Christian religious predictions that failed to come about in the specified time frame, listed by religious group.

1. Adventism, Millerism:
   Adventism has its roots in the teachings of a Baptist preacher by the name of William Miller. He first predicted the Second Advent o…

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These passages and many others like them tell us that a significant eschatological event was to occur in the lifetime of those who heard and read the prophecies.   Quote Gadam

No; it doesn’t.  Because no significant eschatological event did occur in the first century.  The conquest of Judah by Rome in 70 AD was only the fulfilment of Luke 21:…[Read more]

For Keras….

Hi Keras, if you are interested on Paraousia of Jesus and Christian End time predictions you are welcome on the proper thread “Question of Parousia of Jesus – how Christianity manage the dilemma?”

Why call him Messiah if he was not satisfying the conditions for Hebrew Messiah? Why take the excuse of Messiah for supporting Christian arguments on Jesus?

Jesus being the sacrificial Lamb of God is another imagination of Christianity. God never appreciated human sacrifice on the alter in the Hebrew Bible. In fact he hated such abominations and…[Read more]

Sorry to comment on your post above. The above verses quoted by you are the opinions of the NT writers and are most religious. I was discussing on the historical investigations on the concept of Messiah in the Hebrew Bible. It is nothing to do with spiritual beliefs and convictions here. Hope you will understand my posts.

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We arecaearebthat there are all manner of excuses for rejecting the messiah. God gave us the freedom to choose him. This also includes the freedom to reject him.

Your excuse is Jesus doesnt fit your idea of the messiah as portrayed in the OT.

I guess you are expecting a king of Israel. These things take time. First things first. The sacrificial…[Read more]

What I post is not speculation.  It is plainly stated scripture, prophesies that people would do well to study carefully and understand.

If it conflicts with your beliefs, then be very sure your beliefs are correct.

Hi Adam,

YOU:

B. Suffering Servant:
Christianity claims that Isaiah chapter 53 refers to Jesus, as the “suffering servant.”

In actuality, Isaiah 53 directly follows the theme of chapter 52, describing the exile and redemption of the Jewish people. The prophecies are written in the singular form because the Jews (“Israel”) are regarded as one un…[Read more]

The question of rejection of Jesus comes after knowing his personality and his background. If he was a Jew by birth he should have followed Hebrew religion and its God. I don’t think he had invented any new religion apart from his own religion, Judaism.

The Jesus of the NT and Christianity seems to me entirely different  Jesus who was mystified…[Read more]

Gadam

Speculation of Keras, but the remnant,s church do not speculate and must not speculate BUT keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ  for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.(Rev.12:10 and 19:10)

Rejecting Jesus as the firstborn of all creation is to reject his headship and the headship of Christ which is God.

This is something strange concept on Messiah if Jesus was a real one as per the Hebrew Bible.

Proclaimer…….True,  I believe that also, good post brother.

peace and love to you and yours………gene

Adam the Old Testament is a spiritually written book, what makes you think it is not? ,  there is no difference between the books, they both are full of Spiritually written things. and yes they both have some translation problems I agree,  but over all they both are fairly accurate, and both are spiritually driven and written books.   IMO

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Adam…..if God caused it to be done, it is Spiritually   done , God is a Spirit.  Yes even in the Old Testament , the blood on the Door posts of that innocent Lamb , that caused the death angel to pass over that House ,, was and is equal to the Blood of God’s Lamb, God shed for us, and we apply that Blood to the door posts of our hearts, in belie…[Read more]

At that time Jesus answered and said, “I thank Thee, O Father, Lord of Heaven and earth, because Thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes. – Jesus Christ

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Let no one deceive himself. If any of you thinks he is wise in this age, he should become a fool, so that he may become wise. For the wisd…

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