GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Even demons believe he is the son of God in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 3 months ago
Berean……Call no man on earth your father but one is your Father who is in heaven. We all can from heaven , yes all humanity has. But you chose to make mankind a sub species, and Jesus a complete different pieces then we are, even though haven told us exactly what that different species is yet, please produce , scriptural proof of just what was…[Read more]
Berean replied to the topic Was Jesus Jewish Messiah – What does the Hebrew Bible really say? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 5 years, 3 months ago
Gene
The bible NEVER SPEAKS THAT HUMAN CAN HAVE DIVINE NATURE …. PARTICIPATE IN DIVINE NATURE YES, BY RECEIVING THE CHARACTER, THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST.
GOD ALONE AND CHRIST HAVE DIVINE NATURE
AMEN!gadam123 replied to the topic Was Jesus Jewish Messiah – What does the Hebrew Bible really say? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 5 years, 3 months ago
Adam…..I now see what proclaimer meant, by you thinking Jesus did not have the Devine Nature, You need to realize what the Devine nature is brother, it is in everyone who has the Holy Spirit of God in them, Moses had it, the seventy elders of Israel also had it, King David , even Saul had it , until God removed his Spirit from him and sent h…
Berean replied to the topic Even demons believe he is the son of God in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 3 months ago
Gene
You
BUT remember Jesus himself said in Revelations who he was, “the human root and offspring of king David “.
Me
This is its human origin that nobody here ignores …. But you put aside its divine origin to your disadvantage because if you believed it would open the horizon for you ….
For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own w…[Read more]GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Even demons believe he is the son of God in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 3 months ago
LU…..Your not facing the truth, and I know why , because if you truly believed that the word “Adon” means a human ruler , then you would have to admit , David was speaking of Jesus as a human ruler. That would shatter your true conception of who Jesus is. BUT remember Jesus himself said in Revelations who he was, “the human root and offsp…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Was Jesus Jewish Messiah – What does the Hebrew Bible really say? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 5 years, 3 months ago
Adam…..I now see what proclaimer meant, by you thinking Jesus did not have the Devine Nature, You need to realize what the Devine nature is brother, it is in everyone who has the Holy Spirit of God in them, Moses had it, the seventy elders of Israel also had it, King David , even Saul had it , until God removed his Spirit from him and sent h…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Was Jesus Jewish Messiah – What does the Hebrew Bible really say? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 5 years, 3 months ago
Proclaimer…… You must not have read what I said, I know human being can share in the Devine nature, where have I ever said differently, it is shared by the Holy Spirit given us flesh men, just as it was and is with the flesh man Jesus .
MY question to you is why do you and others here “despise God the Father’s “human” creation so much ” the very…[Read more]Berean replied to the topic Even demons believe he is the son of God in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 3 months ago
Hi To all
Go…. open wide the ears of your Heart ❤️ and listen
Proclaimer replied to the topic Was Jesus Jewish Messiah – What does the Hebrew Bible really say? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 5 years, 3 months ago
Proclaimer……what Adam ‘quoted’ directly from scripture is exactly right, you can’t deny it so you come up your “mystery” religious false teachings.
Have you not heard that even we can inherit divine nature. I guess you haven’t. It could also explain your teachings which focus on the flesh.
carmel replied to the topic Even demons believe he is the son of God in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 3 months ago
1 Cor 15:27… Now when it says that “everything” has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ.
The One who is in a position to PUT all things under the other one is
the One who is the most powerful.
ME: PERFECT Mike! FROM A HUMAN’S POINT OF VIEW!
The other one will never have as…[Read more]Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Site-Wide Activity 5 years, 3 months ago
I didn’t read your whole post Berean because it is a bit long. But of what I did read, it looked pretty spot on.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Even demons believe he is the son of God in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 3 months ago
That word Lord in Isaiah 10:33 is the word adon obviously not meaning a human ruler there. It is not the word adonai, Strong’s #136.
Sounds like it could be any ruler. Perhaps even angels. Mostly men by the sound of ot.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Even demons believe he is the son of God in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 3 months ago
Do you see that word “usually” Gene? That means that adon doesn’t always refer to a human lord. Therefore, you can not say that the adon in Psalm 110:1 is a human ruler just because it is adon. Adon can also mean a non-human lord. I gave you a perfect example of this in my last post to you.
Without looking into it, it sounds like the major…[Read more]
Berean replied to the topic Daily Devotions in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 5 years, 3 months ago
Hi To all
Daily meditation
August 6, 2021
WE ARE WASHED IN THE BLOOD OF CHRIST
The blood of Jesus his Son cleanses us from all sin. (1 John l.7)
SOME SPEAK OF Jewish times as a time without Christ, without mercy and without grace. To these, we can apply the words of Jesus to the Sadducees: “You do not understand the Scriptures nor the power o…[Read more]
gadam123 replied to the topic Was Jesus Jewish Messiah – What does the Hebrew Bible really say? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 5 years, 3 months ago
Adam,
Your article does admit that there were some who thought Isaiah 53 was referring to the Messiah.
Did you come back to HN to cause more division? Did you come back to HN to lead people away from Christ?
Hi Sis Kathi, thanks for your reply on my post. Yes few Jews who are lenient towards Christian Messiah interpret Isaiah 53 as referring to…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic Even demons believe he is the son of God in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 3 months ago
Hi Gene,
YOU: As far as what is thine are mine , that is also simple “ALL things are God the Fathers, and he made them for US, the future heirs of them, just the same as Jesus, or haven’t you ever read “we ARE “JOINT” HEIRS WITH Jesus Christ.” And what Heb2 says. . God the father gives everything on this earth for all of mankind, even…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Even demons believe he is the son of God in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 3 months ago
Gene,
You wrote:
When the singular adon is used , it usually refers to a human lord , Adon is used 215 times referring to men.
Do you see that word “usually” Gene? That means that adon doesn’t always refer to a human lord. Therefore, you can not say that the adon in Psalm 110:1 is a human ruler just because it is adon. Adon can also mean a…[Read more]
Berean replied to the topic Was Jesus Jewish Messiah – What does the Hebrew Bible really say? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 5 years, 3 months ago
Gadam,
The truth IS in The two testaments
THE NEW TESTAMENT, IN ITS PURPOSE, IS THE OUTCOME OF WHAT WAS ANNOUNCED IN TYPES AND PROPHECY IN THE OLD TESTAMENT.
OT
ISAIAH 66For as the NEW HEAVENS AND NEW EARTH, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain
OT / DANIEL 7
And the kingdom…[Read more]
gadam123 replied to the topic Was Jesus Jewish Messiah – What does the Hebrew Bible really say? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 5 years, 3 months ago
Your wisdom appears to be earthly, flesh, carnal.
As the plan of God progresses, more will be revealed about what lies beyond the veil. Or do you think there is just flesh and that’s it.
There is divine nature as there is flesh. There is this world and the next world.
You are not your body. You are what resides deep inside. That shell will p…
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Even demons believe he is the son of God in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 3 months ago
LU….. I even told you how many times both those words were written in the Hebrew text, why not make a true search, and check it out , it’s on the internet for all to see, if they truly want to.
peace and love to you and yours…………gene
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