Proclaimer:  So what is then? A brick wall? What is beyond the brick wall?

As I’ve repeatedly said, we are not told that information in scripture, so I don’t know.  I only know that there are waters above the firmament and below the earth – and that God, Jesus, and 24 elders rule from thrones that are in heaven above us (presumably all of us a…[Read more]

Wake up gadam. How long have you been alive? And you haven’t thought about that truth?

And so it is written in the New Testament and you think this fact is myth?

You deny basic logic because you don’t like the New Testament.

Your loss.

Hi Proclaimer, what is the truth? The NT was written as  polemics against Jewish people in time of those writ…[Read more]

Proclaimer: Well put. That is exactly how I feel too.

Is Berean a Trinitarian?

I believe he is on the same path as Kathi – who came here as a Trinitarian, but was then forced to abandon that unscriptural idea and come up with her own “Jesus is God” doctrines.

Berean:  Because Christ is the OWN SON OF GOD, HE IS GOD. 

That’s like saying that because you are the son of Joe, you ARE Joe.  And what’s more, you even identify this son as “Christ”.  Do you know what a christ is, Berean?  There are many christs in the Bible.  They are those who are anointed (ie: set aside for a specific purpose) by God. …[Read more]

Berean…….. First of all you need to understand what it means to be in the “form” of God,  can you explain that to us?  Next is what time was that talking about , I believe it was talking about when he was on this earth,  Then the passage address the idea that Jesus did not think to “rob” God to try to make himself “equal” to him.    It is not say…[Read more]

Proclaimer……God’s word is certainly Devine, no matter who quotes them,  but turning “the man Jesus ”  into a God is a Lie , and that is exactly what fallen Christianity has done.

Look the very reason the apostasy took place over 1700 years ago, was because of the false teachings of The TRINITY DOCTRINE,  and that DOCTRINE turns  the “MAN” Jesus…[Read more]

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One of my favourite coastlines. It’s near my home, but I need to travel by boat to get here. So have only been here a handful of times.

The first to be with God is not God, but most like God because he was begotten from him directly.

Whereas, no one else can claim that.

This is the greatest mythology of Christianity stating that God literally begets some one or something. Sorry I can’t find this myth in the whole of Hebrew Bible.

Hello Proclaimer, if it is so easy why there is no end to such debates on Jesus?

There is an adversary who commands many beings to fight against God.

Humans are easy targets, but God has made it possible for us to overcome.

Choose your side.

He is the God of the living not the dead.

God has all the attributes. He creates beings to reflect his nature.

In the case of Christ, he has the fullness of the deity in him.

He is the first.

God is eternal.

Someone was first.

You say that he is not the Word of God because he speaks the words of God, but it is the other way around. He is the Word of God because he speaks the words of God. He is the expression of God. The visible image of the invisible God.

People get so confused about identities vs nature. I am amazed by that because it is not a hard concept to grasp.…

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Hi Jodi,
If Jesus was given the Word of God, then he cannot be that word.
When are you going to get that?

But when are you going to get that your name can be reflective of your attributes.

For example, Jesus changed people’s names to reflect that which they were or were to become.

Upon Jesus Christ’s return, his name is The Word of God.

We…[Read more]

The Word was divine. Real clear. How can you deny it? Simple. Reject Jesus Christ is the Word.

Gene

You are only quoting the verses partially ….

it is written:

Who, being in the form of God,
thought it was not stealing to be equal with God:

But he made himself without reputation,
and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the image of men:
And being found fashionable as a man, he humbled himself and became obedient…[Read more]

Berean……Being found in fashion  as a “man” ,why?,   was because he was a “MAN”.

“but unto us ( the saved) , there is but “ONE GOD”   and  ONE MEDIATOR , between GOD and men, “the “MAN”  Jesus Christ. ”

YOU either believe that or not, just that simple .

peace and love to you and yours………..gene

Gene

JESUS CHRIST IS not THE GOD ALLMIGHTY, BUT THE BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD, AND HE , AT THE BIGINNING, HAD THE SAME NATURE AS HIS FATHER BEFORE HIS INCARNATION.ZND THE WORD OF GOD SAY US “HE TAKE UPON HIM THE FORM OF A HUMAN SERVANT”

THIS IS NOT A HERETIC TEACHING, BUT THE PURE TRUTH OF THE NEW TESTAMENT.
👉But made himself of no reputation, and…[Read more]

Proclaimer…….Your getting closer to the truth,  in Paul’s prophesy about the return of Jesus, In 2 ths2, he tells us that Jesus will not return unless the  Apostate (the falling away from the truth comes first ) that took place more the 1700 years ago,  and became the main teaching of Christianity ever since ,  the main teaching of the <…[Read more]

Proclaimer

Do you believe that Eve was adam? 

Me

Gen.5
This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;
Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.

adam = human being (among others)
Eve = human being =…[Read more]

The writings (New Testament) are the faith that was delivered to us.

Today, there has been a great departure.

For example, Jesus asked Peter who he was and Jesus commended his answer and built his Church upon that truth. Yet today, if you ask the same question, many would say that Jesus was God which is a completely different answer. This is but…[Read more]