Well put Ed J

Hi Proclaimer, thanks again for your reply to my post. I am not alone in stating that the NT is diversity than unity on the nature of Jesus.

It really is not hard to understand. I guess that God makes people blind to this by handing them over to the spirit of confusion.

The Word that was with God was divine and became flesh and is now back in the…[Read more]

Understand : “This is how close we are OF the Christ’s coming.”

Gene

So it seems The LORD our GOD can’t find any other “true God but himself”  , but some here think they know better then God does,  and deliberately deny his very own words.  We will see where that winded up in the end. 

Like you for example who preaches an outlaw savior.

To all……… If you believe God the Father called Jesus a God,  then God the Father would  be contradicting   his very own words,  “you shall have no other God beside me , 

Isa 44:6…“Thus says the LORD the king of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD OF HOSTS ; I am the first , and the last,  and BESIDES ME, THERE IS “NO” GOD. 

Isa 44:8…..[Read more]

Hi To all

Daily meditation

August 19, 2021

WE THANK GOD FOR HIS INEFFABLE GIFT

Thanks be to God for his ineffable gift! (2 Corinthians 9.15)

WHILE THE VAST MAJORITY of human beings have refused the priceless offering and rejected the most costly gift that God has bestowed on the world, it is terrible to know that the human race will face the…[Read more]

Adam,

You did not prove that the writer of Hebrews interpreted the Hebrew scriptures wrong with that article. The article agrees that YHVH is being associated with Jesus and it is not condemning that but emphasizing that the Jews did not understand the full meaning of their scriptures and how they related to Jesus as YHVH who laid the foundation…

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For Sis Kathi….

 Understanding Hebrews 1:10-12 (Matthew Janzen, Revised 2015)

One Scripture often used to prove Yeshua’s hand in creation is Hebrews 1:10-12. Most
theologians assume the writer of Hebrews is including verses 10-12 as additional
statements that Yahweh makes to or about His Son. The use of “and” in verse 10 and
“but” in verse 13…[Read more]

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The New Testament authors misuse Hebrew scriptures

How the New Testament authors interpreted and assimilated the ancient Hebrew text to the point of “taking it out of context.” If I used the same biblical hermeneutic that the NT authors used, I would fail every single bible interpretation course available today, from conservative and liberal sem…[Read more]

Adam,

You did not prove that the writer of Hebrews interpreted the Hebrew scriptures wrong with that article. The article agrees that YHVH is being associated with Jesus and it is not condemning that but emphasizing that the Jews did not understand the full meaning of their scriptures and how they related to Jesus as YHVH who laid the foundation…[Read more]

Proclaimer,

Your statement that was incorrect and not the trinity doctrine was this:

Thus the substance is the one true God (He) and three persons (they) qualify as being in the club.

Consubstantial means of one and the same substance, essence, or nature, especially the three divine persons of the Christian Trinity.

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I have no idea why you used that article to prove that the author of Hebrews was dishonestly manipulating the OT to fit into a dishonorable agenda.

You have failed to prove your belief regarding the author of Hebrews. You should reread it and learn what it is telling you.

I also don’t know what do you want from me Sis. I have quoted the Christian…[Read more]

Adam,

You article should have a reference as to the source of the article so credit is given to the author and so it can be searched out. Please add a link to what you copy and paste in the future. I did find the article here:

The Use of the Old Testament in Hebrews

The article is not suggesting that the…[Read more]

Nice try but that is not what the trinity is.

Incorrect. The Trinity which is basically the creed of the Catholic Church and daughters basically states that the Trinity is a matter of salvation in that adherents need to believe that God is a Trinity in Unity made of the same substance. The members are the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.…[Read more]

Hi Adam,

You said:

This is purely the interpretation of the writer of the Hebrews, placing Jesus the supposed Messiah above the Angels and even at par with the creator God. He simply copied and pasted the Hebrew scriptures which originally refer to God Yahweh and assigned them to Jesus as if God himself addressed Jesus as God. This is purely his…

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Proclaimer:

Nice try but that is not what the trinity is.

Also, nice try on your spin of what Thomas said. I think that Thomas referring to Jesus as the God of himself and the Lord of himself agrees perfectly with what the Father calls the Son in Hebrews 1, YHVH who laid the foundation of the earth and the heavens are the works of the Son’s…[Read more]