LU:  Notice the definite article where Thomas says “the Lord of me and the God of me” in the interlinear below. He is referring to Jesus, btw.

2 Cor 4:4… The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers…

Notice the definite article here.  He is referring to Satan btw.

Carmel: WHEN WE SAY:

GOD IS BIGGER THAN THE SON…
WHAT THE HELL ARE WE TALKING ABOUT?

SINCE WE DON’T KNOW WHAT GOD IS!

This is a tactic that has been used by Trinitarians for centuries.  They fully understand that the Bible doesn’t support their doctrine, and so they have no choice but to claim that God is a Trinity – but it’s beyond the under…[Read more]

Mike

WHAT THE FATHER IS, IN THE BIGINNING
THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON WAS ALSO

WHEN WILL YOU UNDERSTAND THIS VERY SIMPLE THING?

Berean:  Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person,

DO YOU KNOW SOMEONE WHO IS ACCORDING TO HEBREWS EXCEPT THE SON OF GOD?

I don’t.  Do you know someone who IS the very entity that he is the son OF?

LU:  Then Israel is not a collective noun because God refers to Israel with the singular pronouns of him and he and the singular noun firstborn son.

That is poetic language – like when people refer to a ship as a “she”.  Is it your claim that every time every single one of the authors of scripture refer to God as a “he/him”, they are all using t…[Read more]

Proclaimer:

Father

Praise be to the God (theos) and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in the heavenly realms with every spiritual blessing in Christ.

Jesus / Word

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning.

Men / Judges

Jesus answered them, “Is it not w…

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Adam,  there is a difference between the Old Testament and the NEW.  The old in most cases deals with the carnal thing , the new with the Spiritual things of God. IMO

Hi brother Gene, thanks for your reply to my post. If you want to understand the true concepts on Hebrew Messiah you need to refer to the scriptures in Hebrew Bible only and not C…[Read more]

Nature or essence is not the identity or person himself just as you are not your flesh.

Proclaimer

“Nature or essence is not the identity or person himself ”

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… Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his PERSON (hupostasis), …..

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Adam……what I was trying to say is that there are two different ways people see things , on is from a Carmel or worldly ways , the other are from a Spiritual way,  the Carmel focuses on this world and how we physically do thing and see thing, the Spiritual sees thing differently.  The Jew’s messiah to them is only a carnal ruler that just deliver…[Read more]

Lu…….Jesus said the word he was telling us were “SPIRIT” ,  Jesus said God “IS” a SPIRIT  ,  that is his essence,  and GOD the father can by, that essence be in us “all”    “That God may be in “all” and through “all”.   God essence is not limited to just three things, it’s “IN” EVERYTHING THAT HAS LIFE IN IT.  

JESUS said that God the father was [Read more]

Eve is adam / man (mankind).

Eve is not Adam.

The Word was divine / theos.

The Word is not The God / The Theos.

Nature or essence is not the identity or person.

If divinity is the person of God, then yes the Word is God himself and so are all those who participate in that nature.

Once again. Confusion over nature vs identity.

The Trinity…[Read more]

Proclaimer

See it is true. The Trinity / Binity treat God as a substance or essense.

But God is a person / identity. 

Me

Precisely, because God is a person, HE HAS A SUBSTANCE THAT IS OWN TO HIM …
AND THE SON IS THE PERFECT REFLECTION OF THE PERSON OF THE FATHER ACCORDING TO HEBREWS 1: 3

HI LU

Does God have essence or IS God essence?  Can you answer that?

Or maybe you think that God does not have essence. It would be impossible for the Son to be the exact representation of the Father’s essence if He did not have any essence?

Undebunked.

AMEN LU

HEBREWS 1: 3 AFFIRMS THIS.

God bless

The Bible also says that Satan is theos…

Mike

Yes but Stan does not have IN HIM THE ETERNAL POWER TO CREATE THE UNIVERSE, HE IS A DEPENDENT CREATURE ON GOD FOR HIS SURVIVAL.

IN THE BIGINNING, CHRIST HIM WAS GOD OF THE SAME SUBSTANCE OF GOD THE FATHER, AND IN HIMSELF WAS THE ETERNAL POWER THAT ALLOWS HIM TO CREATE AND SUSTAIN THE UNIVERSE .…[Read more]

Adam, your vision for God is stuck at stage 1 and I wonder if you lived back then if you would reject that stage. The plan has progressed much since then of course and you have been left behind my friend. You underestimate the work and will of God. He doesn’t do things in half measures. The eternal God goes above and beyond our expectations.

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Hi To all

Daily meditation

August 22, 2021

THE CROSS HELPS US TO UNDERSTAND NATURE

You make me glad by what you do, O Lord! And I applaud the works of your hands. (Psalm 92.5)

LIKE TODAY it is not possible for man, by his own resources, to discover the lessons. If he is not guided by heavenly wisdom, he exalts nature and its laws above the…[Read more]

Adam……Another point to consider ,   Was Jesus dealing with the salvation of Carmel nation , or with eternal salvation of all human beings? ,  the Salvation Of Jesus was for eternal life,  the Jew’s salvation looks to their physical salvation as a nation. Big difference in what kind of salvation we’re talking about, The Jews rejected their eter…

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Where can I read about resurrection in the OT?

Hi Mike, thanks for your reply to my post. The concept of (individual) resurrection was not developed in the Torah but it is visible in the Tanakh especially in the later books like Daniel. Here are few indirect and direct verses on resurrection from the Hebrew Bible;

Job 19:

25 For I know that my…

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Does God have essence or IS God essence?  Can you answer that?

Or maybe you think that God does not have essence. It would be impossible for the Son to be the exact representation of the Father’s essence if He did not have any essence?

Undebunked.

If so, then the essence in God is the same in age as the essence in His Son.

Further, if we are born from above and participate in divine nature, then we too are eternal and as old ass God?

See how easy it is to debunk false teaching?