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Daily meditation

August 22, 2021

THE CROSS HELPS US TO UNDERSTAND NATURE

You make me glad by what you do, O Lord! And I applaud the works of your hands. (Psalm 92.5)

LIKE TODAY it is not possible for man, by his own resources, to discover the lessons. If he is not guided by heavenly wisdom, he exalts nature and its laws above the…[Read more]

Adam……Another point to consider ,   Was Jesus dealing with the salvation of Carmel nation , or with eternal salvation of all human beings? ,  the Salvation Of Jesus was for eternal life,  the Jew’s salvation looks to their physical salvation as a nation. Big difference in what kind of salvation we’re talking about, The Jews rejected their eter…

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Where can I read about resurrection in the OT?

Hi Mike, thanks for your reply to my post. The concept of (individual) resurrection was not developed in the Torah but it is visible in the Tanakh especially in the later books like Daniel. Here are few indirect and direct verses on resurrection from the Hebrew Bible;

Job 19:

25 For I know that my…

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Does God have essence or IS God essence?  Can you answer that?

Or maybe you think that God does not have essence. It would be impossible for the Son to be the exact representation of the Father’s essence if He did not have any essence?

Undebunked.

If so, then the essence in God is the same in age as the essence in His Son.

Further, if we are born from above and participate in divine nature, then we too are eternal and as old ass God?

See how easy it is to debunk false teaching?

If so, then the essence in God is the same in age as the essence in His Son.

See it is true. The Trinity / Binity treat God as a substance or essense.

But God is a person / identity.

As I said earlier, “God has divine nature, but many teach divine nature has God” and you have proved my point.

The Father is God.

The Son is a son of God.

The…[Read more]

God is eternal, was God always a father?

If so, then God always had a son.

If not, then is it remotely possible that God asexually reproduced?

If God asexually reproduced, is it possible that God took from Himself essence that always was in Himself and then gave it to another one just like Himself?

If so, then the essence in God is the same in…[Read more]

Thanks for the list Adam. Have the Jews found their Messiah yet according to you? What has to happen before they he comes?

Adam: Yes he will not be an old man as you rightly pointed out but he will certainly be a warrior prince. It will be an end time Messianic kingdom where the Israelites will live there forever with their children and grandchildren and David will be their prince forever. I think this is possible with resurrection beliefs in the Hebrew religion. It…

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Well put Mike.

Hi Gene,

YOU: ADAM……I also believe that the biggest myth of all,  is thinking Jesus preexisted his birth on this earth.

ME: Gene I don’t think whether Jesus pre-existed or not 

I AM CONVINCED THAT HE PRE-EXISTED!

NOT ONLY HIM BUT ALL HUMANS DID AS SPIRITS.

YOU: Jesus never address himself as having an actual personal past relationship with…[Read more]

Berean: The bible Say  That the son OF God IS “THEOS “AND THAT THE FATHER IS “THE THEOS” (JOHN 1)

The Son IS “THEOS” BECAUSE HE IS THE OWN SON OF GOD( THE THEOS)

The Bible also says that Satan is theos…

2 Cor 4:4… The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel that displays the g…[Read more]

Mike:  Adam, is your coming messiah, who will be a regular old human being in every possible way, going to live forever?

Adam:  Yes he will not be an old man as you rightly pointed out but he will certainly be a warrior prince. It will be an end time Messianic kingdom where the Israelites will live there forever with their children and gr…

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LU:  I will add that not only did the sonship have a beginning but the fathership would have as well at the same moment…

Dirt was not eternal, it was created. There was a time when dirt was not.

I hope that helps.

There was a time when dirt was not, and there was a time when the firstborn son of God was not – as you yourself have acknowledged…[Read more]

LU:  Not applicable since God is spirit, not a spirit.

God is a person, an entity.  Since He is qualitatively spirit, he is, by definition, a spirit.  Just like one who is qualitatively canine is a dog, one who is qualitatively feline is a cat, one who is qualitatively homo sapien is a man, and one who is qualitatively deus is a god.

John 4:24 Ki…[Read more]

SINCE GOD IS OMNIPOTENT, WHY THEN MAKE A MIRACLE FOR HIS SON TO CREATE THE UNIVERSE WHEN HE CAN EVERYTHING.
THIS THESIS DOESN’T STAND UP … (that’s my opinion)

THEN IN THE CASE ( This is what I believe)  OR GOD HAS CREATED EVERYTHING BY HIS OMNIPOTENT WORKER, WHY WOULD HE CHOOSE TO ACT SO ????

MY ANSWER IS THAT GOD NEEDS A SON (OMNIPOTENT) BUT…[Read more]

LU:  The Bible does not say that we “inherit” divine nature. We will share in divine nature meaning we will put on the righteousness of Christ and change from being corruptible to incorruptible.

2 Peter 1:4… you may become (1)partakers of the (2)divine (3)nature

1) a sharer, partner

2) deity

3) genus, nature

It means some of us will shar…[Read more]

Well first of all, how do we know the Father even has that ability – since according to you the Father has never created a universe?  

Mike,

Since according to you God performed a miracle for his Son to create the universe, it is because HE HAS IN HIM THE POWER TO CREATE EVERYTHING AND THEREFORE HE WOULD HAVE TRANSFERRED TO HIS SON. So I hav…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  The fourth gospel says that the Word was divine. There is no definite article in the last mention of theos.

The lack of definite article says the logos was a god – not that he was “divine”.  John 1:1 tells of someone called the logos who was with THE god, and was himself a god (but not THE god he was with).

Berean:  His sonship HAD a BEGINNING but not His DIVINE NATURE WHICH HAD NO BEGINNING AND NO END.

LU:  Amen Berean

When the elect partake in the divine nature shared by Jesus and his God, will they all of a sudden become people who had no beginning or no end?  Or will they remain people who did once have a beginning?

If it is the latter, then it…[Read more]