Berean:  The opinion in question is based on a misinterpretation of the text alone
of Revelation 3:14: “Write also to the angel of the church in Laodicea: This is what says
the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God “.
This is misinterpreted as meaning that Christ is the first being
that God created; that God’…

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Gene:  You said everyone of those Gods were a person, “O” really ,  many scriptures tell of God that have eyes and can’t , see legs and can’t walk, Gods made of trees that are decorated with Gold and silver or images and fastened with a banner so they can’t fall over…

Gene, I was talking about the gods that I mentioned in my post… the ones Je…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  That land is out of view because it is over the curve.

Could there be any other explanation for the land not showing up in your photo?  Or is “because it is over the curve” the only possible explanation there is?

Berean: AMEN LU,

For GOD NOTHING is IMPOSSIBLE !!!

Don’t you mean “For our two 100% identical Gods nothing is impossible!” ?

2 Timothy 4:3-4… For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to…[Read more]

Mike:  Of course we know the word “begotten” in this case isn’t literal because we know that God the Father didn’t have sex with God the Mother to produce Jesus.

LU:  Of course there is asexual reproduction which wouldn’t require a partner. I believe it is entirely possible for the eternal One to asexually reproduce and “literally”…

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Again, your not counting the kingdom that Daniel was in at the time he prophesied the Four ‘”MORE”,  to come.

ADAM it is simple and it fits exactly with what is written in REV 17.  WHY do you think Revelations say this is the mind that has wisdom, it’s because you have to understand you can’t understand what it it saying unless you get the tim…

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Adam……..You simply are not understanding when Daniel was given that vision, of the future he was already in the First kingdom, and was talking about the four more kingdoms to come afterwards.  There were four “more” that would arise “after” the one he was “in” .

Also go back and count the kingdom mentioned that you didn’t highlight,  Daniel…[Read more]

Perhaps there is a thread called “The Bible” or something.  I simply don’t have the time to be invested in a dozen different threads on a bunch of different subjects… especially when they all relate to the truth of scripture in one way or another.  This is, after all, a Bible discussion forum.

You could put yourself on the Hot Seat and we can al…[Read more]

So then God created the earth to be inhabited by men, but gave it an “atmosphere” that we couldn’t even see through, let alone breathe?

When you first build a house, you cannot live in it right away.

It takes time to make it habitable.

To all

IS CHRIST A BEING
CREATED ?
…… We must dwell for a few moments on an opinion which is
honestly supported by many who would not dishonor Christ
voluntarily, but who, because of that opinion, actually deny His Divinity.
It is the idea that Christ is a created being, who, by the good pleasure of God, was lifted up
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1 Timothy 6:20-21… O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions from science falsely so called: Which some professing have erred concerning the faith.

I do my own science, and have found absolutely nothing that contradicts the world God described through Moses and other Bible w…

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AMEN LU,

For GOD NOTHING is IMPOSSIBLE !!!

I agree LU.

The Word was begotten and with God and came from his nature so was divine.

Then the Word became flesh…

Hi To all

Daily meditation

Sunday 29, August 2021

A work of reform

Prepare the way of the Lord, make his paths straight. Every valley will be filled, every mountain and hill will be made low; that which is crooked will be made straight, and rough roads will be smoothed out.
Luke 3: 4, 5.

The work of reform described here, a work of cleansing…[Read more]

Mike,

You said: Of course we know the word “begotten” in this case isn’t literal because we know that God the Father didn’t have sex with God the Mother to produce Jesus.

Of course there is asexual reproduction which wouldn’t require a partner. I believe it is entirely possible for the eternal One to asexually reproduce and “literally” beget a…[Read more]

Adam……problem is you teacher did not recognize the FIFTH KINGDOM , but runs it into the  forth kingdom of Iron,  no scripture shows that. It shows the forth OF IRON,  as the Roman Empire, and the FIFTH KINGDOM AS THE ONE THAT IS “MIXED” with “IRON AND CLAY”  , THAT  IS THE KINGDOM THE ROCK STRUCK, IT DID NOT STRIKE THE LEGS, BUT THE FEET,  All…

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Carmel:  who is the beginning (arché) of the creation of God: 
STRONG’S CONCORDANCE
arché: beginning, origin
ME: THUS THE PHRASE FOUND IN 3:14 MEANS THAT JESUS WAS THE
“FIRST CAUSE”, THE “ORIGIN”, OF CREATION,
not its first production. 

1. The Greek word has as it’s first definition, “beginning”, as you’ve pointed out.  In the NT, it has the me…[Read more]

To all

There are actually FOUR GREAT EARTH KINGDOMS BECAUSE DANIEL 2 TALKS ABOUT FOUR METALS
DANIEL 7 OF FOUR BEASTS.
OK
IN REVELATION 13 AND 17 THERE IS THE BEAST WITH 7 HEADS BUT

THE FOUR GREAT EARTH KINGDOMSARE THE SAME
1) BABYLON
2) MEDO PERSIA
3) GREECE
4) ROME A (pagan)
5) Rome b (papal-538-1798)
6) Rome at the time of the mortal wound…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  Is that relevant to John 1:1?

Perhaps there is a thread called “The Bible” or something.  I simply don’t have the time to be invested in a dozen different threads on a bunch of different subjects… especially when they all relate to the truth of scripture in one way or another.  This is, after all, a Bible discussion forum.

Let me…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  Mike. There is a difference between being created and being begotten. Creation is that which comes through the Word of God. That exempts the Word of God.

There is no difference – especially when the Hebrew word often translated as “begotten” actually just means “brought forth into existence”.

Also consider that the act of begetting…[Read more]