But I am sorry to comment on the NT writers and Christianity which tried to convince their Jewish audience to prove that Jesus was the Jewish Messiah by misquoting Hebrew Bible. And most of the Christian Forums are filled with these doctrinal arguments on Jesus. This is the fact. I hope you will understand my point here.

Let’s face it Adam. Jews…[Read more]

Carmel: LUCIFER THE LIGHT BRINGER!
THE BEGINNING!
HIDDEN IN LUCIFER’S HEART 

THE FIRST-EVER DIVINE CREATURE HEART! 
MALE AND FEMALE ANDROGYNOUS!

Here is who Carmel is describing…

I fear Satan has taken control of Carmel.

LU:  In your opinion, what would be the difference between a created son of God and an uncreated son of God?

Right off the bat…

1.  The former is scriptural for all sons of God, while the latter is not.

2.  The former is logical, since no son exists until he is brought into existence by his father (who always, in every circumstance, exis…[Read more]

What is the ‘good force’?

Danny: If Christ is the only begotten of the Father, then we cannot be begotten of the Father in a literal sense. It can only be in a secondary sense of the word.

But how do you know that Jesus being “begotten” of God isn’t also in a secondary sense of the word?  What in scripture tells you that the Greek word “gennao” refers to a literal “…[Read more]

@mikeboll64

Read this.

Merged topics

Does God continue to support his creation (the earth, the suns, all the planets etc.) by (through) Jesus Christ in the same way that He (God) created everything by (through) JESUS CHRIST. ???
…. GOD CONTINUALLY TRANSMITTING HIS CREATIVE POWER TO THE SON AND HIS POWER TO SUPPORT HIS CREATION …. CONTINUALLY …. ???

Hebrew 1: 3
and upholding all t…

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Adam:  Christianity created myths on Messiah and made him non-human and alien to us.

Do you also consider God to be “alien to us” because He is also “non-human”?

Proclaimer: I’ve rebuilt this topic and merged some smaller old topics that were on the same subject. Not sure if this will resolve the “from jammin” problem.

I still get the “from jammin” notifications, but it’s not a problem.  I was just trying to find out if Adam or Carmel WERE jammin, posting under new names.  It wasn’t that big of a deal ei…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  So it is written: “The first man Adam became a living being”; the last Adam, a life-giving spirit.

Do you hear that, Gene and Carmel?  The last Adam (ie: Jesus) became a spirit.  He is not a man in heaven, guys.  He is a spirit now, as are all of those who dwell in heaven.  Flesh cannot see, enter, or inherit the spiritual kingdom…[Read more]

Mike:  In which scripture(s) can I read about “glorified spiritual flesh”?  

Carmel: YOU ARE STILL LIVING ON MILK!

Jesus Christ GODMAN!

Etc, etc, etc, blah, blah, blah for enough words to make a novel.  🙄

Carmel, try talking less and saying more, okay?  I await your scripture(s) in which I can read about “glorified spiritual flesh” – because y…[Read more]

sonofGod:  Who? how about “what is the word”?

The word, or logos is defined by a message not emphasizing the actual words or means used to communicate the message but the intent of the message sender.   Another Greek word, rhema, emphasizes the actual words used to communicate the message.  Both are important.

Logos is the message, the intende…

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Hi Mike

The bottom line is that God, not Jesus, is our Creator.  

Does God continue to support his creation (the earth, the suns, all the planets etc.) by (through) Jesus Christ in the same way that He (God) created everything by (through) JESUS CHRIST. ???
…. GOD CONTINUALLY TRANSMITTING HIS CREATIVE POWER TO THE SON AND HIS POWER TO S…[Read more]

Berean:  ...the time will come when you will realize that JESUS IS OTHER THAN YOU THINK
TRY TO TELL HIM IN FACE: JESUS YOU DID NOTHING CREATED…

Point taken.  I always try to say that the scriptures don’t say that Jesus created anything at all – unless you count the whip he fashioned from cords.  I try to word it that way because we don’t know ex…[Read more]

Adam:  It’s good that you dropped the idea of ‘billions becoming Christians’.

It’s not “dropped”.  I said let’s just forget about that part for now.  I’ll come back to it later.  I just wanted to remove it for now because it was giving you an escape from directly addressing the questions I asked.

Admin:  Overall, the older topics work, so I won’t try and find a fix. But I will try cloning the topic and I will test it to see if that fixes the notifications.

I still get the same notifications, but now the pages have 10 posts instead of 15, and so there are a lot more pages to this thread than before.  Neither of these things need to be add…[Read more]

Gadam

CHAPTER 9 OF DANIEL HAS JESUS CHRIST FOR CENTER ,. THE OINT OF THE LORD GOD.

COMMENTS THAT FAIL TO ENHANCE THIS CENTRAL POINT ARE OF NO SPIRITUAL VALUE TO THE PEOPLE OF GOD.

Adam: I always wonder what is this “God created all things though him”?

Me too.  What exactly does it mean that God created all things through Jesus?  We’re not given any specifics, so we’re left with the knowledge that God is the one who created, and He did that through Jesus somehow.  The bottom line is that God, not Jesus, is our Creator.