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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 5 years, 1 month ago

    No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son  who is in the bosom of the Father , He hath revealed Him.

    Proof that Jesus is not God right there. God is invisible.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 5 years, 1 month ago

    So if the God in the Bible is not a Trinity because you cannot swap these words without breaking scripture, then the Trinity God is some other God. It is not the God in the Bible.

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    Miia replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 5 years, 1 month ago

    Proclaimer, if you play your game of replacing the words in the scriptures I just posted with your beliefs, they won’t fit. How can they fit? I guess it depends which verses you play with, aye?

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    Miia replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 5 years, 1 month ago

    Proclaimer.

    Regarding “Image”.

    No, my son is not me.

    You could say he is an image of me.

    But we are human, and God is God. How can we fully comprehend God in human ways when God is invisible? God is spirit, and the Son is in His bosom. They are one. Yahweh (The Father), Yahshua (the Son), and the Holy Spirit. Together they are ONE.

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    Berean replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 5 years, 1 month ago

    Proclaimer

    To be the most like God and to have his nature and character doesn’t make you God. It makes you his Son. 

    Me

    But it is the case of the only begotten Son of God who IS THE REFLECTION OF THE GLORY OF GOD AND THE FOOTPRINT OF HIS PERSON ….

    DON’T YOU UNDERSTAND ANANALOGY WITH THE HUMAN RACE?
    A HUMAN SON INHERIT OF THE PHYSICAL NA…[Read more]

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    A Legal Controversy

    First, Matt 5:17–18: “Do not imagine that I have come to do away with the law or the prophets. I have come not to do away with them, but to fulfill them. I mean it when I say that, until heaven and earth disappear, not one letter, not even a stroke of a letter, will disappear from the law, until everything is acc…[Read more]

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    gadam123 replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 5 years, 1 month ago

    In order to believe in the One true God, you must believe in the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. They are a package deal, a divine interdependency. If you want one true God, you must take all three: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

    Yes it’s a quite a package deal for Christianity about God and the so called Messiah which made the Hebrew…[Read more]

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    Hi To all

    SHOULD WE STILL HONOR OUR PARENTS IF THEY ARE ABUSIVE?

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    All of the commandments are a reflection of God’s loving character, so I don’t believe we can safely ignore any of them, regardless of the circumstances.

    However, we need to understand what honoring our parents really mea…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 5 years, 1 month ago

    In order to believe in the One true God, you must believe in the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. They are a package deal, a divine interdependency.

    My scriptures trump your creed. Do you want to play again.

    Jesus said, Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet returned to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them,
    `I am returning…[Read more]

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    Carmel,

    It was Jesus body that was resurrected on resurrection day, His spirit was in the hands of the Father at the time of the last breath on the cross. I believe that “today I have begotten you” refers to the Son according to the flesh, from the dead. Thus He is called the Firstborn from the dead. That was the day that the Son received the…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 5 years, 1 month ago

    In order to believe in the One true God, you must believe in the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. They are a package deal, a divine interdependency. If you want one true God, you must take all three: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

    If you deny the Holy Spirit, you cannot receive the Father or the Son.

    If you deny the Father, you cannot…[Read more]

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    Yes Jesus was talking to his present audience , “about the future judgement”.  Not about the present time he spoke it.

    What judgement is it? Please read verse again which I had quoted in my post;

    Then he says, ‘There are some standing here which shall not taste death till the Son of Man comes into his kingdom’ (Matt. 16:28);

    Truly I tell you, t…

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 5 years, 1 month ago

    Yes, that makes him the image of God.

    Think about the Word ‘image’ and ‘of’ for a minute.

    If you had a son, then you could day the son of Miia. But nobody would say he was Miia.

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    Miia replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 5 years, 1 month ago

    Jesus said, if you have seen me, you have seen the Father! Because the Son is the exact image of the Father. The Father is the Head of God. If you bow at the feet of Yahshua, you also bow to the head. Me and my father are one. There is only one God.

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    Miia replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 5 years, 1 month ago

    Proclaimer,

    “Some kind of a curse”, you speculate?

    Well there is no point speculating, because the final judge either knows us and we know Him, or not.

    The coin analogy was just an analogy. Why try to see spiritual things through earthly eyes?

    The natural man receives not the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him,…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 5 years, 1 month ago

    Proclaimer……..Another good post brother.

    peace and love to you and yours………gene

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    Proclaimer…….Question remains to all of us,   who is our “first love ” supposed to be?

    The perfect Trinitarian question,  but no Trinitarians here seem able to respond to it. Why is that?  , could it be they have made Jesus their “first love”?, In stead of God the Father?
    Rev 2:4   The letter to the church at Ephesus ,   Pretty well explains t…
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    Proclaimer…….Question remains to all of us,   who is our “first love ” supposed to be?

    The perfect Trinitarian question,  but no Trinitarians here seem able to respond to it. Why is that?  , could it be they have made Jesus their “first love”?, In stead of God the Father?
    Rev 2:4   The letter to the church at Ephesus ,   Pretty well explains t…
    [Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 5 years, 1 month ago

    To be the most like God and to have his nature and character doesn’t make you God. It makes you his Son.

    When you are like something and even if you are equal to something, to any clear thinking person, you are not that actual thing that you are like.

    What it makes you is an image.

    God is the source of all, even the Son. The Son is the image of…[Read more]

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    Berean replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 5 years, 1 month ago

    Proclaimer

    Since The Son OF God is BEFORE ALL THINGS, He is obligatorily either the God, or he is like God (meaning of Mickaël)
    Paul tells us that the Son of God is: the brightness of THE glory OF GOD, and the express image of his person …. My way of expressing it to make you understand what it is in the prayer of faith is that the Son IN THE…[Read more]

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