The Book of Daniel originated from a collection of legends circulating in the Jewish community in Babylon and Mesopotamia in the Persian and early Hellenistic periods (5th to 3rd centuries BC), and was later expanded by the visions of chapters 7–12 in the Maccabean era (mid-2nd century).

The “four kingdoms” theme appears explicitly in Daniel 2 a…[Read more]

The Medo-Persians, led by King Cyrus II, invaded Babylonia from the east in June of 539 B.C. and captured its capital, Babylon, in July of the same year.

But the book of Daniel differs this. Please read Dan 5:30-31

30 That very night Belshazzar, the Chaldean king, was killed. 31  And Darius the Mede received the kingdom, being about sixty-two year…

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The Medo-Persians, led by King Cyrus II, invaded Babylonia from the east in June of 539 B.C. and captured its capital, Babylon, in July of the same year.

I am quoting the verses again for your ready reference;

The writer of Daniel clearly mentioned four (names) kingdoms in his texts. Please check the following verses;

1. Babylon (Dan 1: 1; 2:37) God had given a kingdom to Nebuchadnezzar

2. Media (Dan 5:31; 9:1; 11:1) A fictitious king  Darius named for Median kingdom by this writer.

3. Persia…[Read more]

One reason is Greece being two empires ahead of Babylon, not three.

Sorry??? Please clarify with verses. You never replied my query on Rome as fourth Empire with proof in Daniel whereas I have given you  verses for Greece being the fourth Empire of Daniel.

You get ot from John 1:1. The last mention of theos in Jphn 1:1c to be precise lacks the definite article, ‘the’. But the definite article is present in all other mentions of theos in John 1:1.

Read what Origen said about this fact.

“We next notice John’s use of the article in these sentences. He does not write without care in this respect, nor…[Read more]

Let’s take your example of Roman Empire in two legs one West and the other East. I ask you why not we take legs of the Image of Nebuchadnezzar as North and South Greece Kingdom as clearly uttered in Dan 11?

One reason is Greece being two empires ahead of Babylon.

Proclaimer

So Eve is not The Adam but is adam. The Son is not The Theos, but is theos. In nature, Jesus Christ is theos or divine and Eve is man or flesh.

This is what the scriptures teach us.

Me

The Son is not The Theos, but is theos. ????

WHERE You see That in The bible

I Read

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with(the)…[Read more]

I was speaking Of The “nature” of Christ.

I thought we established that he has divine nature. That he was begotten of God. That he is the offspring of God.

So that means he is not The God, but he is theos in nature.

Similarly, Eve is not Adam or The Adam, but is adam meaning she is man or mankind. Remember that God made man, male and female. And…[Read more]

No problem Danny.

My advice is to not sign up for any man-made doctrine that tries to explain what is in scripture, but to believe the scripture first.

Doctrine will come from that but after some time. The points you believe will form a picture after a while.

Too many times, people who know little get filled with other people’s ideas and then…[Read more]

IDEM IN DANIEL 7 

These great beasts, which are four, are FOUR KINGS , which shall come out of the earth. 

But the saints of the Most High will take the kingdom and possess the kingdom forever, even forever and ever. 

FOUR HUMANS KINGDOMS ,THEN KINGDOM OF GOD WITH THE SAINTS

Note :FOUR KINGS = FOUR KINGDOMS (v. 23) YOU WILL NEVER SEE FIVE HE…[Read more]

Gene AND ALL

We are now living in the Fifth time period of “Iron and Clay”. The next to come, will be the Sixth world ruling Kingdom of Jesus and the Saint’s, and Satan will be bound and cast into the bottomless pit, for one thousand years,  then he will be released for a short time,and the the Babylonian system will rise again as the Sevent…

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I’m sorry.
At the moment I’m not sure what’s biblical –
Trinitarianism, Binitarianism or Unitarianism?
I cannot tell. Sorry for my back and forth.
I have to pray and study until I’m sure.
That’s why I will take a long break and only comment again
when I’m 100% sure.

Hi Danny no prayer and break can resolve this unending debate on God and Jesus as…[Read more]

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Hi Proclaimer,

I want to apologize for being harsh on you.
I’m sorry.
At the moment I’m not sure what’s biblical –
Trinitarianism, Binitarianism or Unitarianism?
I cannot tell. Sorry for my back and forth.
I have to pray and study until I’m sure.
That’s why I will take a long break and only comment again
when I’m 100% sure.

So long!
God…[Read more]

Adam……What I have given you is the “overview” of it all,  What your doing I believe is getting buried in the details, if those details do’t fir the “overview ” , the you must adjust to Aline to it.  Start with the overview I have given and then fill in the blanks to fit it.

peace and love to you and yours……..gene

speculations Rome was decided into the East and West Empire at one time.  But the Roman Empire has not existed for over fifteen hundred years now.

Hello brother Gene,  I am not disputing about Roman Empire spreading from West to East. I am only arguing that the Danielic Fourth kingdom can be spread from North to South as in the case of Greece w…[Read more]

To all,  we are in the time of the feet,  world ruling Governments with Great power, but not ruling as one single empire or kingdom, but kingdoms and governments mixed with different seeds of men, but all the worlds kingdoms and nations, still operate under the Babylonian type of rule,  BYING AND SELLING FOR GAIN, PEOPLES SOULS,  ENSLAVING THE…[Read more]

Adam…….Rome was divided that’s not speculations Rome was decided into the East and West Empire at one time.  But the Roman Empire has not existed for over fifteen hundred years now.  What Rev 17,  and Daniel 2 give use first in Dan 2 an overview of the progression of the Babylon system of rule, until, the return of Jesus who sets up a “differen…[Read more]

C’est ainsi que beaucoup d’occidentaux voient l’histoire….. 

Daniel 2 tells us that we are still in the fourth kingdom, but divided, part strong, part fragile, seeking unity, but failing … THEN COMES THE KINGDOM OF GOD.

Let’s take your example of Roman Empire in two legs one West and the other East. I ask you why not we take legs of the Image of Nebuchadnezzar as North and South Greece Kingdom as clearly uttered in Dan 11?

Where is your Rome any where mentioned in Daniel forget about your Ottoman you simply imagine as another Roman Empire. No historian will…[Read more]