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    Adam…….Who cares what those wannabe Jews think ?,  naturally they reject Jesus as the Messiah, they were the ones that had him killed.  The more you join in on their thinking the further you go away from Jesus, as well as God the Father .   You on very dangerous ground brother.  You should be showing them the errors of their false teachin…[Read more]

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    To all……Rome, is the “fourth” kingdom and is the kingdom of Iron,  it was completely destroyed, and then arouse out of that , the Present day “FIFTH” world ruling kingdom as it is “TODAY” ,  THE NEXT WORLD RULING KINGDOM WILL BE THE “SIXTH”  the kingdom of Jesus Christ and the Saint’s , and last for a thousand years,  then  Satan who had been cast…[Read more]

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    He wanted to show four world empires through the image of Nebuchadnezzar. These four empires were Babylon, Media, Persia and Greece.

    But I’ve clearly proved to you that Media and Persia were considered one kingdom from the Book of Daniel itself. So any verses in that book that you reference need to be placed in that context. You can only change…[Read more]

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    I just want to add few findings through my research on the book of Daniel;

    1. The book was written by a Pseudo writer at the time of Antiochene crisis in the Second Century BCE.

    2. This writer was not aware of the history of 6 & 5th BCE. The proof is the  fictitious king of Media Darius.

    3. He wanted to show four world empires through the…[Read more]

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    Admin replied to the topic The Beast Revealed in the forum Prophecy 4 years, 12 months ago

    We have extensive records from that period and there was never any such thing as a dual or subordinate “king” governing the Persian empire under Cyrus.

    You are free to not believe that Media and Persia conquered Babylon. I guess you have let their squabbles baffle you into thinking that they are two empires. You are free to believe what you wan…[Read more]

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    Admin replied to the topic The Beast Revealed in the forum Prophecy 4 years, 12 months ago

    The third Beast and metal is Greece
    I have already acknowledged that prophecy contains some interpretation and that this is great. But not all prophecy is interpreted and you need to acknowledge that. Prophecy to some degree is a mystery, but a mystery that can be solved in the right season. There is no expectation that the Roman Empire should be…[Read more]

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    Are you silly? The Roman Empire didn’t exist yet. Lol. You might need to revise your history.

    I am sorry brother it seems you are ignorant that the Greece Kingdom which also was future to so the called Biblical character Daniel.

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    Faking a History and Pretending It’s Real

    To illustrate, consider the apologetic attempted at Bible Gateway, which consists of an attempt to “invent” a history of Persia (actually, more than one, so you can pick and choose I guess) that exists nowhere in the sources, and which consists largely of outright ignoring contrary facts:

    Darius the Me…

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    Thanks Berean. Some good descriptions in that post.

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    Please show me at least one reference to Rome in whole of Daniel as a world kingdom as you repeatedly stick to your traditional view.

    Are you silly? The Roman Empire didn’t exist yet. Lol. You might need to revise your history.

    Prophecy talks about the future. You test prophecy by seeing if it came to past.

    That is what I am doing. Looking at…[Read more]

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    Berean replied to the topic The Beast Revealed in the forum Prophecy 4 years, 12 months ago

    The Book of Daniel states that the kingdom was given to the Medes and the Persians, thus according to that book, these two were one empire. 

     

    Hi Proclaimer

     

    I agree with that. The MEDO PERSIAN bear IS ONE KINGDOM

    And behold another beast, a second, like to a bear, and it raised up itself on one side, and it had three ribs in the mouth of…[Read more]

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    Why the Medes and Persians are considered a single kingdom in the Book of Daniel Interpreting the Book of Daniel through the lens of history has given rise to some different theories. As we know, each metal in the vision of the statue

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    Please show me at least one reference to Rome in whole of Daniel as a world kingdom as you repeatedly stick to your traditional view. I have shown you plenty to prove Greece as the fourth kingdom. The writer of Daniel never dreamed of Rome or future kingdoms like Ottoman….

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    Any interpretation that makes Media and Persia two kingdoms does not agree with the Book of Daniel.

    Rome was a significant kingdom. Far greater than you give it credit for it seems. It had two legs and lasted 1000 years more than most think too. While the East was taken over by the Ottomans, the West divided into roughly 10 nations.

    Media and…[Read more]

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    Continued from Daniel 2 to 7 and further…

    The four beasts of Daniel 7

    Daniel recounts, ‘The first was like a lion and had eagles’ wings. Then as I looked its wings were plucked off, and it was lifted up from the ground and made to stand upon two feet like a man; and the mind of a man was given to it.’

    The winged lion is familiar in Babyl…[Read more]

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    Hi to all

    DO PEOPLE BECOME ANGELS WHEN THEY DIE?

    Daily Devotional

    When the apostle Peter was miraculously delivered from prison, the young lady, Rhoda, who answered the door could hardly believe it was him. In her excitement, she left Peter locked outside and rushed to tell the others. Since he had been previously delivered by an angel, the…[Read more]

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    Christian interpretations are a dime a dozen just as scientific interpretations are. It’s a natural consequence of investigating something that needs interpreting. No big deal. Some theories are better than others.

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    Why the Medes and Persians are considered one kingdom in the Book of Daniel
    “This was the dream, and now we will interpret it to the king. 37 Your Majesty, you are the king of kings. The God of heaven has given you dominion and power and might and glory; 38 in your hands he has placed all mankind and the beasts of the field and the birds in the s…[Read more]

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