Hi Proclaimer

The mix of iron (Roman Empire) with clay does explain well, the fact that the fourth empire was taken over by the Ottomans who kept the capital city and renamed it. Remember that it is part strong and part weak and the two di not cleave to one another 

4 GREATS EMPIRES

BABYLON

MEDO-PERSIA

GRECIA

ROME

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Gadam, history is incomplete. And one of the reasons for that is the victors get to write it. The bear was lopsided because one was stronger than the other. Daniel says that they both conquered Babylon and this could be explained by the idea that neither could have done it alone. But later as we see, the Persians were stronger and they would have…[Read more]

Thanks Berean.

It’s not worth reading gadam’s long posts that need Medo Persia to be two separate kingdoms. That is a complete waste of time.

Gadam, could you perhaps say in the opening paragraph if this idea of yours is required. That way I can ignore the post. And it will encourage me to read posts that do not require this as I know I will be…[Read more]

@genebalthrop

Have you acknowledged your error here yet?

Proclaimer……Remember Daniel was already existing in the First kingdom of Gold, when he was given that prophecy , so if he were predicting future events, he was not speaking about the kingdom he was already in. He meant Four “more ” to come .

There are 4 metals and 4 beasts.…[Read more]

The mix of iron (Roman Empire) with clay does explain well, the fact that the fourth empire was taken over by the Ottomans who kept the capital city and renamed it. Remember that it is part strong and part weak and the two di not cleave to one another.

Gene’s theory moves away from the Great Sea where the beast resides and makes his own country…[Read more]

Median dynasty
The list of Median rulers and their period of reign is compiled according to two sources. Firstly, Herodotus who calls them “kings” and associates them with the same family. Secondly, the Babylonian Chronicle which in “Gadd’s Chronicle on the Fall of Nineveh” gives its own list. A combined list stretching over 150 years is…[Read more]

Hi Gadam

Prophecy does not separate the Medes from the Persians

And he said, Behold, I will make thee know what shall be in the last end of the indignation: for at the time appointed the end shall be.
 The ram which thou sawest having two horns are the kings of Media and Persia.

Please read my post with the verses I have quoted to understand…[Read more]

Proclaimer……where is the “feet of Iron and CLAY mentioned  at” , Daniel spent  a lot of time speaking about it.  Noice what your quotation  says,  “Daniel focused on Four  or it COULD HAVE BEEN “FIVE”,  fact is it was Five.
The kingdom, of  “IRON and CLAY”   WHICH fits exactly with this present world ruling powers, Today’s Nations do not operate…[Read more]

Hi Gadam

Prophecy does not separate the Medes from the Persians

And he said, Behold, I will make thee know what shall be in the last end of the indignation: for at the time appointed the end shall be.
The ram which thou sawest having two horns are the kings of Media and Persia.

The problem is your posts are so long that you can never find anything and most will not read them.

A conversation is easier to follow than a series of essays.

So I will assume that you have no smoking gun evidence for what you say.

But if you do, feel free to make a post about it.

Keep the post on that subject and maybe put a heading 2 as the…

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The problem is your posts are so long that you can never find anything and most will not read them.

A conversation is easier to follow than a series of essays.

So I will assume that you have no smoking gun evidence for what you say.

But if you do, feel free to make a post about it.

Keep the post on that subject and maybe out a heading 2 as the title.

Interesting.

The four beasts matches the Beast of Revelation

The dragon stood on the shore of the sea. And I saw a beast coming out of the sea. It had ten horns and seven heads, with ten crowns on its horns, and on each head a blasphemous name. The beast I saw resembled a leopard, but had feet like those of a bear and a mouth like that of a lion. The dragon…[Read more]

A fourth beast, with large iron teeth and ten horns

A fourth beast.–This is so different from the preceding three, and so terrible in appearance, that Daniel can hardly find words to describe it. The distinguishing feature of it is the power which it possesses of breaking and stamping out all that it meets. In this way it corresponds to “iron…[Read more]

A beast like a leopard with four bird’s wings and four heads

“After that, I looked, and there before me was another beast, one that looked like a leopard. And on its back it had four wings like those of a bird. This beast had four heads, and it was given authority to rule.

This beast seems obvious and is inline with the third metal in the sta…[Read more]

Hi to all

Daily meditation

October 8, 2021

WE ARE THE SARMENTS

I am the vine; you, the branches. He who abides in me bears much fruit, for without me you can do nothing. (John 15.5)

WE HAVE NOTHING, we are nothing unless we receive the virtue of Jesus Christ.

Until he surrenders his heart unconditionally to God, the human agent does not…[Read more]

A beast like a bear standing with three ribs in its mouth

One side.—In explaining this very difficult phrase, it must be remembered that the two sides of the bear are parallel in meaning to the two breasts and two arms of the Colossus. It is implied, therefore, that the second kingdom consists of two parts, and the raising up of one side imp…[Read more]

A winged lion-like beast relief from the ancient city of Babylon

The four beasts of Daniel’s vision:

1. A beast like a lion with eagle’s wings (verse 4) ✓
2. A beast like a bear standing with three ribs in its mouth (verse 5).
3. A beast like a leopard with four bird’s wings and four heads (verse 6).
4. A fearful beast different from the others…

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Proclaimer……Remember Daniel was already existing in the First kingdom of Gold, when he was given that prophecy , so if he were predicting future events, he was not speaking about the kingdom he was already in. He meant Four “more ” to come .

There are 4 metals and 4 beasts.

 You are that head of gold. “After you, another kingdom will arise, infe…[Read more]

Gene

WHEN the Angel give To Daniel the phase of chapter 17 , He carries it to the time of the judgment of the great harlot who shed the blood of the saints, so after these events were to take place.
And so practically in the end times, in the times of iron and clay, shortly before our Lord Jesus returns in glory and the glory of his Father.

More…[Read more]