And is that what you want to call it?  Will you seriously now try to claim that CLOUDS are the “windows of heaven” that God opened to let “the waters above” flood the earth, and then closed after He had allowed a sufficient amount of water in?

Look for a scientific explanation rather than imagine Lord of the Rings or some fantasy. More water i…[Read more]

Getting even closer yet!  Now it’s not a point of the Bible actually “reflecting false stone age views about the cosmos”, but certain people WANTING it to do that.  And I noticed that you’ve now added the parameter “as a scientific view” to your explanation.

You cannot even give me one verse in the Bible that says the earth is flat. So it is vanity.

Proclaimer:  Besides all that. When it rains, it does come down in portals if you want to call it that.

And is that what you want to call it?  Will you seriously now try to claim that CLOUDS are the “windows of heaven” that God opened to let “the waters above” flood the earth, and then closed after He had allowed a sufficient amount of water i…[Read more]

Mike:  I’m asking you which of the following two descriptions of the earth better align with a firmament that has windows that can be opened to let the waters above in, and then closed to stop the waters above from entering?

Adam:  Good question. Proclaimer wants to align his Bible with present day science which is not possible.

Proclaimer: 

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Mike: Keep in mind the understanding of every Biblical scholar who, while themselves accepting the heliocentric model, will tell you in no uncertain terms that the Bible is indeed a flat earth book.

Proclaimer:  …they want the Bible to reflect false stone age views about the cosmos so the bible can be debunked. Trouble is, the Bible a flat e…

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Proclaimer:  You said something similar about Africa I think. Despite that, I am not arguing against drugs that might help.

Yes… along with posting raw data from Utter Pradesh, I have also posted data (and even MSM articles) concerning Japan conquering Covid with Ivermectin, and concerning the fact that Covid barely affected Africa at all.  T…[Read more]

Mike:  A little hard for the above “foundations of the earth” to be “pillars of the community” when mankind hadn’t even been created yet, don’t you think?

Proclaimer: Bwahahaha!

So then the adult answer would be, “Yes Mike… when the scriptures talk about God laying the foundations of the earth and creating the heaven, before a single human…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  Looking at this through the eyes of the stone age, your model fits. When a person dies and goes to heaven, they are lifted off the rock slab and through the sky. 

You’re getting closer to admitting what we all know that you already know.  Now just be honest and take it that final step.  Just admit that Isaiah was talking about a fla…[Read more]

Here’s some new data from your neck of the woods…

Proclaimer:  I don’t remember reports saying that you would be 100% protected.

You can watch it all, but the first minute should be enough to show you that I know what I’m talking about.  Watch Biden at the 24 second mark point blank say that “you’re not going to get Covid if you have these vaccinations“. htt…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  That last image means little when you consider that nearly everyone is vaccinated. I will repeat that the claim made is the vaccines will lessen transmission and symptoms. I don’t ever remember people being promised 100% protection. That said, at the beginning, people didn’t know a lot because you need time and data to then make clai…

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Adam……Good post brother,  Gal 5:2-4    We are being “created” unto good works by the Spirit of God our Father,  because it is him that works in us and through us, both “to Will and do of ‘HIS” good pleasure” , just as He did and still Does, in and through Jesus Christ,  our brother.  This is all done by, the “WORKS OF THE SPIRIT”, of God,  not by…[Read more]

Having said that, do you think the blood sacrifices are necessary, and all the annual festivals and all the rituals that go with it …?

Hi Berean, thanks for reply. The Torah which includes Sabbath and the blood sacrifices is the crux of Hebrew religion but Christianity deviated itself from this very crux of a religion. So why do you want to add a…[Read more]

Berean……Where does the father fit in your “salvation” process, seeing you seem to nearly alway just talk about Jesus, and you seem to look at him “only” as your true savior?  Where does God the Father appear in you salvation process at?
And you still haven’t answered my questions,  do you keep the “feast of tabernacles”, and where did Jesus e…[Read more]

Hi to all

DAILY DEVOTIONAL

WHY CAN’T WE JUDGE OTHERS?  

It’s very easy to be a hypocrite, to sharply or unjustly criticize others when you’re not living up to your own standards. Jesus warned, “How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me remove the speck from your eye’; and look, a plank is in your own eye? Hypocrite! First remove the plank fro…[Read more]

Berean……. What does this mean to you,  “By obedience to Law , shall “NO ONE” be “justified” Before God’. 

Gene, GOD GIVE FAITH THAT WORK BY LOVE “For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.”

Jésus saïd in John 14:15
If you love me, keep my commandments.

Because I am saved by grace IN J…[Read more]

Hell Berean, thanks for your reply to my query. But the SDA Church and few others want to take only Sabbath and  leave out the rest of the Torah from Hebrew Bible. 

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No, I believe there is a misunderstanding on your part, and because of that misunderstanding you suppose … but the faithful church has done / did what God by Christ c…[Read more]

Berean……. What does this mean to you,  “By obedience to Law , shall “NO ONE” be “justified” Before God’.

Do you know what it means by this, ‘that those that are under the grace of God “are not under the works of law”, for you are saved by “Grace” Not by works of law”. Here is some more help for you if you can receive it,  1 Ti 1:9,  <…[Read more]

Hell Berean, thanks for your reply to my query. But SDA Church and few others want to take only Sabbath and to leave out the rest of the Torah from Hebrew Bible. There is no such thing as believing in any Messiah as the NT and the Christianity preach. Jesus the so called Messiah did not fulfill any Messianic requirement as per the Hebrew Bible…[Read more]