Mike, this is not a debate of two great minds, a flat earth scientist and a globe scientist. It is simply a long rebuke toward someone who has destroyed his own credibility, and is teaching without proof, that the Bible teaches a flat earth. Worse still, you continue to misrepresent the Bible to Atheists who need salvation. Such a despicable act…[Read more]

You can watch it all, but the first minute should be enough to show you that I know what I’m talking about.  Watch Biden at the 24 second mark point blank say that “you’re not going to get Covid if you have these vaccinations“. https://rumble.com/vperyy-they-lied-about-the-vaccines.html

We both agree that the mainstream media are corrupt and we bo…[Read more]

Why won’t you just come out and say that the writers of the Bible were ignorant goat herders who were not basing their idiotic flat domed earth ideas on “real science”?

Um, the world was pretty ignorant back then as far as science goes. People died in the millions through pandemics and they didn’t really understand. You know, there is a reaso…[Read more]

So then the adult answer would be, “Yes Mike… when the scriptures talk about God laying the foundations of the earth

Dude, when I laughed out loud it was because of how stupid your argument here was.

Foundations are not always stone pillars Mike. I’m amazed that I have to explain that. Is the foundation of the Internet made of stone? Do you see…[Read more]

I agree. But on the same token, if you debate a fool, you need to show him his foolishness lest he think that he is wise and a worthy competitor.

Proverbs 26:4-5
Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you be like him yourself.

I ridicule your answers and flat earth teachings because they deserve it. I do not tolerate foolishness.

And is that what you want to call it?  Will you seriously now try to claim that CLOUDS are the “windows of heaven” that God opened to let “the waters above” flood the earth, and then closed after He had allowed a sufficient amount of water in?

Look for a scientific explanation rather than imagine Lord of the Rings or some fantasy. More water i…[Read more]

Getting even closer yet!  Now it’s not a point of the Bible actually “reflecting false stone age views about the cosmos”, but certain people WANTING it to do that.  And I noticed that you’ve now added the parameter “as a scientific view” to your explanation.

You cannot even give me one verse in the Bible that says the earth is flat. So it is vanity.

Proclaimer:  Besides all that. When it rains, it does come down in portals if you want to call it that.

And is that what you want to call it?  Will you seriously now try to claim that CLOUDS are the “windows of heaven” that God opened to let “the waters above” flood the earth, and then closed after He had allowed a sufficient amount of water i…[Read more]

Mike:  I’m asking you which of the following two descriptions of the earth better align with a firmament that has windows that can be opened to let the waters above in, and then closed to stop the waters above from entering?

Adam:  Good question. Proclaimer wants to align his Bible with present day science which is not possible.

Proclaimer: 

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Mike: Keep in mind the understanding of every Biblical scholar who, while themselves accepting the heliocentric model, will tell you in no uncertain terms that the Bible is indeed a flat earth book.

Proclaimer:  …they want the Bible to reflect false stone age views about the cosmos so the bible can be debunked. Trouble is, the Bible a flat e…

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Proclaimer:  You said something similar about Africa I think. Despite that, I am not arguing against drugs that might help.

Yes… along with posting raw data from Utter Pradesh, I have also posted data (and even MSM articles) concerning Japan conquering Covid with Ivermectin, and concerning the fact that Covid barely affected Africa at all.  T…[Read more]

Mike:  A little hard for the above “foundations of the earth” to be “pillars of the community” when mankind hadn’t even been created yet, don’t you think?

Proclaimer: Bwahahaha!

So then the adult answer would be, “Yes Mike… when the scriptures talk about God laying the foundations of the earth and creating the heaven, before a single human…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  Looking at this through the eyes of the stone age, your model fits. When a person dies and goes to heaven, they are lifted off the rock slab and through the sky. 

You’re getting closer to admitting what we all know that you already know.  Now just be honest and take it that final step.  Just admit that Isaiah was talking about a fla…[Read more]

Here’s some new data from your neck of the woods…

Proclaimer:  I don’t remember reports saying that you would be 100% protected.

You can watch it all, but the first minute should be enough to show you that I know what I’m talking about.  Watch Biden at the 24 second mark point blank say that “you’re not going to get Covid if you have these vaccinations“. htt…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  That last image means little when you consider that nearly everyone is vaccinated. I will repeat that the claim made is the vaccines will lessen transmission and symptoms. I don’t ever remember people being promised 100% protection. That said, at the beginning, people didn’t know a lot because you need time and data to then make clai…

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Adam……Good post brother,  Gal 5:2-4    We are being “created” unto good works by the Spirit of God our Father,  because it is him that works in us and through us, both “to Will and do of ‘HIS” good pleasure” , just as He did and still Does, in and through Jesus Christ,  our brother.  This is all done by, the “WORKS OF THE SPIRIT”, of God,  not by…[Read more]

Having said that, do you think the blood sacrifices are necessary, and all the annual festivals and all the rituals that go with it …?

Hi Berean, thanks for reply. The Torah which includes Sabbath and the blood sacrifices is the crux of Hebrew religion but Christianity deviated itself from this very crux of a religion. So why do you want to add a…[Read more]

Berean……Where does the father fit in your “salvation” process, seeing you seem to nearly alway just talk about Jesus, and you seem to look at him “only” as your true savior?  Where does God the Father appear in you salvation process at?
And you still haven’t answered my questions,  do you keep the “feast of tabernacles”, and where did Jesus e…[Read more]