A tree is part of creation. Is it divine?

Proclaimer,

I would say the divine order is more like this:

God the Father  → His only begotten Son who is the only begotten God  → Creation

Mike,

You said: “I agree that Jesus is “the only of his kind”, but I wouldn’t try to build any doctrines around the translation “only-begotten” – as if it means Jesus literally spawned from the very loins of the Father.”

In other words, you don’t believe that Jesus is the only Son of God in the highest sense of the word, as if he is a Son in th…[Read more]

Proclaimer,

You said “John 1:18 calls Jesus the begotten God. Therefore he must be God Almighty right?”

John 1:18 NASB 1995 doesn’t merely call Jesus the begotten God but the ONLY begotten God.  Therefore being the only begotten God would make him the only Son (in the highest sense) of the God who begat him. As the Son of God, he does the will…[Read more]

Yes Berean.

While we have in part, he has in full.

He was also the only begotten. The first born.

While we are made by natural process of God and through the logos, we receive a second birth. He even calls us brothers.

All things were made through the logos and without it, nothing was made. The logos became flesh. And the Word of God will…[Read more]

Proclaimer,

As far as I understand, the divine nature of God the Father, his eternal substance and power, his eternal life, all his divine attributes, ALL OF THIS WAS GIVEN TO THE SON WHEN HE WAS BEGOTTEN FROM THE FATHER IN ETERNITY PAST.
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Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear THE VOICE OF THE…[Read more]

How long was each day in Genesis 1 AFTER the sun was made (or allowed to shine through)?

Already answered this despite not being given the question.

A day to the LORD is a long period of time compared to our day. But in actual fact it can be any length he desires. And there is nothing in scripture that states that God is dictated to by days of an…[Read more]

Exodus 20:11… For in six days the LORD made the heaven and the earth and the sea and all that is in them…

QUESTION THAT HAS NEVER BEEN ANSWERED BY PROCLAIMER:

You claim that the heaven and earth are excluded from the things God made in six days.  God says that the heaven and earth are included in those things He made in six days.

Already answe…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  Anyhow, if you can be wrong about me surrendering, then what else are you wrong about? That is a legit question. God is my witness.

Just to be clear, I said you were TRYING to surrender… but I won’t allow it.  But with God as your witness, let’s see if you start actually ANSWERING questions in a DIRECT and HONEST manner – instead o…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  I await your new no 1 question or new evidence for me to address.

Okay, here’s one I’ve never asked before…

The Bible says the sun was made on day 4.  (You say God cleared the atmosphere or whatever on day 4.  Either way…)
How long was each day in Genesis 1 AFTER the sun was made (or allowed to shine through)?

Proclaimer:  i believe I have answered all questions that I have read.

You’ve got to be kidding me!  😅🤣😂  I could fill a page with the questions you have refused to answer – even after being asked over and over!

Heck, I just asked you one today that you STILL haven’t addressed.  Ready?

Exodus 20:11… For in six days the LORD made the hea…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  AGES  Before → Now → For evermore

Now ✓

You obviously agree that we live in an age now

Future ✓

You have agreed already that there are ages to come

Past ☓

Now you only need to see the possibility of ages in the past.

Luke 1:69-71… He has raised up a horn of salvation for us in the house of His servant David, as He spoke throu…[Read more]

I saw this on another site.

The Word Was “Divine”
by: Paul, Webmaster

https://www.ntgreek.org/answers/answer-frame-john1_1.htm has the best explanation, defense, and support of the translation “The Word was Divine.” It is exactly the same explanation I received in my first-year Greek class.

The word “God” is being used as an adjective in the…[Read more]

Agreed.

And what do we call that nature?

Romans 1:20

For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.

2 Peter 1:3-4

His divine power has given us everything we need for life and godliness throu…[Read more]

Proclaimer

Me

Identity of the One True God: God the Father of Jesus Christ

Identity of Jesus Christ: The Only Begotten Son of God.

Nature Of the only true God: GOD.
Nature of the Only Begotten Son of God in the biginning : GOD

After incarnation : God AND man

God bless

Proclaimer, post 900861 was also new info and new questions.  How about addressing it?

And here’s another brand new concept for you.  I’m going to try to explain it in one of your favorite analogies:  a guy creating a virtual world on a computer.

So you’re the guy who created the virtual world/matrix.  You created this world to operate on “so…[Read more]

BUT

THE WORD WAS GOD

THIS IS NOT THE SAME THING.

But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him;

and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

This is right. So the Word is not called The God.

So it is to be understood qualitatively.

Similar to Eve being man. But not the man.

Proclaimer

The fact is all instances of ‘theos’ and ‘logos’ have definite articles in John 1:1-3 except the last mention of ‘theos’.

Me

The Gospel According to Saint John
Chapter 1
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en arch: in the biginning

 hn o logoV : WAS The Word

kai o logoV: AND The Word

 hn proV : WAS WITH/for

ton qeon: The God

 kai qeoV hn o logoV: The Wor…[Read more]

I await your new no1 question or evidence for me to address.

Regards.