Proclaimer replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 6 months ago
Very easy “Yes or No” questions that were ignored by Proclaimer (as usual)…
PROCLAIMER, DO YOU NOW UNDERSTAND THAT BIG BANG, DEEP TIME UNIFORMITARIANISM, AND COMMON DESCENT EVOLUTION ARE NOT EVEN A PART OF SCIENCE, BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT OBSERVABLE, TESTABLE, AND REPEATABLE?
DO YOU FURTHER UNDERSTAND THAT SCIENCE IS THE COLLECTION OF DATA – WHICH M…Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Mikeboll's belief in a flat world 4 years, 6 months ago
AND FINALLY, HAVE YOU NOW COME TO UNDERSTAND THAT BY REJECTING A BLIND, UNQUESTIONING, FAITH-BASED BELIEF IN THE INTERPRETATIONS OF FLAWED MEN, I DON’T DENY SCIENCE ITSELF, BUT RATHER THE RELIGION OF SCIENTISM?
I disagree with your statement. You most certainly deny science. Even the most predictable and repeatable of observations are denied by you.
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Mikeboll's belief in a flat world 4 years, 6 months ago
DO YOU FURTHER UNDERSTAND THAT SCIENCE IS THE COLLECTION OF DATA – WHICH MAKES NO CONCLUSIONS – WHILE SCIENTISM IS A FAITH-BASED BELIEF IN THE INTERPRETATIONS OF THOSE DATA BY FLAWED HUMAN BEINGS
I do not agree with your definition. Science is the application and process of gaining knowledge, particular natural knowledge. Scientism is bel…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Mikeboll's belief in a flat world 4 years, 6 months ago
BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT OBSERVABLE, TESTABLE, AND REPEATABLE?
Then God is unscientific. But he is observable through the things he has made. So I cannot see him, but I know he is there. This type of observation is how we arrive at the Big Bang. It doesn’t mean it is correct, but that there is a lot of evidence pointing to this hypothesis.
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Mikeboll's belief in a flat world 4 years, 6 months ago
Science means knowledge. But it is more accurately defined as the pursuit and application of knowledge. Science is not the truth itself, but often it discovers or arrives at the truth through investigation, testing, and successful predictions. I would also argue that knowledge can be gained by revelation. But at that point, it is yet to be proven.…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic LU/Mikeboll64 regarding The Yahweh Unity Doctrine in the forum Debates 4 years, 6 months ago
Mike,
If you are going to judge me as anything but honestly trying to answer you with sincere integrity, then this conversation is wasting my valuable time.
If you want to continue this discussion, you can show me that by treating me with respect and assuming that I am genuinely trying to thoughtfully respond to your posts in a sincere and…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic LU/Mikeboll64 regarding The Yahweh Unity Doctrine in the forum Debates 4 years, 6 months ago
LU: …are you wanting me to show you places where the context doesn’t make it clear who is the speaker saying what is quoted?
Not sure I understand the wording there. I’m asking for other times in the Bible where a NAMED person or party is directly quoted as saying something, and we have to pick and choose between two or more choices said the…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic LU/Mikeboll64 regarding The Yahweh Unity Doctrine in the forum Debates 4 years, 6 months ago
LU: You wrote that as a fact, do you mean to write that as an opinion? If as a fact, prove it to be a fact, otherwise re-write it as an opinion…
Funny you should say that, since I truly and honestly had “IMO” after the statement at first – but then removed it because there is no doubt in my mind that you exactly what I was asking for, and that…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Russia Ukraine conflict explained in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 4 years, 6 months ago
Yes, there is more to this conflict that meets the eye. But we are brainwashed to see the Russians and the baddies.
mikeboll64 replied to the topic LU/Mikeboll64 regarding The Yahweh Unity Doctrine in the forum Debates 4 years, 6 months ago
LU: <span style=”color: #ff0000;”>Deuteronomy 32:6… Is this the way you repay Yahweh (the God of gods and the Lord of lords), you foolish and unwise people? Is he (the God of gods and the Lord of lords) not your Father, your Creator, who made you and formed you?</span>
Are you making the claim that “Yahweh the Son” is also our heavenly Fathe…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 6 months ago
Hi, Mike,
Cont.
<span style=”color: #0000ff;”>You: Also, try this much better translation of the Greek words…</span>
<span style=”color: #ff0000;”>2 Peter 3:5… But they deliberately forget that long ago by God’s word</span>
<span style=”color: #ff0000;”>the HEAVENS came into being and the earth was FORMED from water and by water.…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Russia Ukraine conflict explained in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 4 years, 6 months ago
And I actually don’t mind Trump anymore lol, because I have many Trump supporter friends online
The political elite painted Trump as a sexist, racist, white pig. In reality, he is an astute business man who loves America, the common people, and he is pretty generous. He has more in common with the taxi driver taking him home than political e…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic LU/Mikeboll64 regarding The Yahweh Unity Doctrine in the forum Debates 4 years, 6 months ago
Mike,
You said:
1. You imply that it’s completely normal and very common to read a verse in the Bible and have to pick and choose of your own desire who is doing the speaking.
This is what I said:
LU: The whole Bible calls for the reader to follow along and seek to understand who is speaking and to whom. Nothing new when it comes to the word…
Lightenup replied to the topic LU/Mikeboll64 regarding The Yahweh Unity Doctrine in the forum Debates 4 years, 6 months ago
Mike,
you said:
Kathi, you know full well that this is not in the spirit of what I’m asking. You are being disingenuous.
You wrote that as a fact, do you mean to write that as an opinion? If as a fact, prove it to be a fact, otherwise re-write it as an opinion, like this for example:
You seem to not understand what I am asking or do you un…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic LU/Mikeboll64 regarding The Yahweh Unity Doctrine in the forum Debates 4 years, 6 months ago
LU: Who is the speaker and to whom is he/she speaking to and defend your answer scripturally:
1On many past occasions and in many different ways, God spoke to our fathers through the prophets. 2But in these last days He has spoken to us by His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, and through whom He made the universe.
Kathi, you know full…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Mikeboll's belief in a flat world 4 years, 6 months ago
PROCLAIMER, DO YOU NOW UNDERSTAND THAT BIG BANG, DEEP TIME UNIFORMITARIANISM, AND COMMON DESCENT EVOLUTION ARE NOT EVEN A PART OF SCIENCE, BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT OBSERVABLE, TESTABLE, AND REPEATABLE?
No.
I understand your definition, but it is incorrect.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 6 months ago
Proclaimer breaks his own rules every time he posts on this site without first answering the question waiting for him in the Hot Seat.
What rule exactly. And I intend to answer every fair question. Further, you need to reword your loaded questions. Try and build your case one precept at a time. Tjat way I can answer each question. When you ask a…[Read more]
Berean replied to the topic The Many Gods of the Bible in the forum Scriptural Teachings 4 years, 6 months ago
Mike
I believe that when Satan says: “like gods” he does not mean the Father and the Son…. unless…
I think he may have been referring to what Paul said later
For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,)Satan wanted to raise their ego, he actually wanted to drag them down.
Lightenup replied to the topic LU/Mikeboll64 regarding The Yahweh Unity Doctrine in the forum Debates 4 years, 6 months ago

Lightenup replied to the topic LU/Mikeboll64 regarding The Yahweh Unity Doctrine in the forum Debates 4 years, 6 months ago
Mike: How do you explain the fact that Moses said that Yahweh is a he, is the Father alone, and is the one who created mankind?
Deuteronomy 32:6… Is this the way you repay Yahweh (the God of gods and the Lord of lords), you foolish and unwise people? Is he (the God of gods and the Lord of lords) not your Father, your Creator, who made you and for…[Read more]
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