LU: Mike,

The word “god” is an idea, a position, not a being. It is a position that can be assigned or a position that is inherently assumed. In the case of the Father and son, it is inherently assumed since they are of eternal essence and before all things.

Not only is that statement inaccurate, it is nothing but a bunch of word salad you’…[Read more]

LU: <span style=”color: #ff0000;”>The passage in Zechariah is tied to Jesus as the one who is valued as 30 pieces of silver which ends up buying the Potter’s Field by the writers of the NT, not me. And the one who is valued at 30 pieces of silver is Yahweh in Zechariah and Jesus in the NT.</span>

Actually, it’s tied to Jeremiah in the NT – not Ze…[Read more]

(If you want, you can just copy and paste my answers to the 4 questions that have been waiting for you.  You can find those answers at the bottom of the second post on the previous page of this very thread.)

Should be one question and you should answer my question. Keep things tidy. Nobody wants to spend half their life answering silly questions.…[Read more]

Pretender:  Flat earth is seriously one of the funniest arguments I have ever heard. It’s the bottom of the barrel for conspiracy theories. It is totally baffling how stupid some people can be.

Who’s that?  Pretender finally crawled out from the rock he’s been hiding under to try to steer attention away from his humiliating ongoing defeat in the…[Read more]

Gene:  I deffenitly believe the earth “came to be”,  tohu and bohu,  void and corupted, the key word in Gen 1:2,  is the word “was” that word means it “came to be” that…

For Gene, the key is the word “was”, that apparently means “came to be” in Gen 1:2… but most definitely DOESN’T mean “came to be” in John 1:1!  😁

Thank God we now have our p…[Read more]

Carmel: BY THE WAY, ON PAGE 92 I ASKED YOU:

FIND A SCRIPTURE THAT MAKES USE OF THE WORDS

TOHU VA BOHU AND IT IS NOT A REFERENCE TO

CONFUSION, CHAOS, WASTE, AND A NEGATIVE STATE OR REFERENCE!

SO, ARE YOU STILL SEARCHING? 

I already addressed it in great detail, using YOUR OWN source!  He points out that the LXX says the earth was “empty and…[Read more]

Mike:  So according to you, Yahweh HAD TO use the plural “days”, right? 

 

Carmel: WRONG AGAIN! FROM YAHWEH’S PERSPECTIVE!

I see.  So although your argument has been thoroughly defeated, you think you can just insert “from Yahweh’s perspective” and make everything okay?

As if YOU have any inkling of how Yahweh perceived the DAYS of rebuildi…[Read more]

Gene:  I can’t understand why Mike who seems so intellegent,  can’t come to understand that,  even with the ISS, giving us 24/7  coverage of it.  Now that’s a mystery to me.

We’re currently in the process of unraveling a bunch of mysteries in our private thread, Gene.  I’m sure we’ll eventually get to this one too. 😎

Carmel: According to Google fight,

back in the days seems more popular:

1,800,000,000 against 584,000,000.

OK, Mike “back in the days” is more popular by THREE TIMES AS MUCH!

I see 584 MILLION votes for “back in the day”, Carmel.  So your claim that Jesus (or whoever) MUST use “days” instead of “day” is baseless.  The fact that more people p…[Read more]

Carmel: So when God refers to “days,” does he want us to mentally substitute the word “eons” or “ages”? No.

Does he want us to think of precise units of time, marked by 24 exact hours as the earth makes a rotation on its axis? No.

Does he want us to think of the Hebrew workday? Yes, AS YOU SAID, 

BUT in an analogical and anthropomorphic…

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Carmel wrote…

You answered:  “NOT PRECISELY”, and then tried to go down yet another irrelevant tangent about how it means something different when heaven is mentioned before earth than it means when earth is mentioned before heaven.  No more tangents until you elaborate on your “NOT PRECISELY” answer.

Why exactly DOESN’T the following d…[Read more]

Mike,

The word “god” is an idea, a position, not a being. It is a position that can be assigned or a position that is inherently assumed. In the case of the Father and son, it is inherently assumed since they are of eternal essence and before all things.

Mike,

The passage in Zechariah is tied to Jesus as the one who is valued as 30 pieces of silver which ends up buying the Potter’s Field by the writers of the NT, not me. And the one who is valued at 30 pieces of silver is Yahweh in Zechariah and Jesus in the NT.

Can you show me where a prophecy in the OT that speaks of Yahweh and is implying s…[Read more]

Mike:  I guess I’m asking if you truly believe that the wording in this passage offers support for a “Yahweh Unity” – a singular living being comprised of multiple persons.

 

LU:  Hi Mike,

Where did I say that a Yahweh Unity is “a singular living being” comprised of multiple persons?

 

Mike:  Wait, are you saying that Yahweh the Father and “…

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Danny: Hi LU,

You started a very good thread.
According to Psalm 2:2 and Acts 4:26 Yahweh is the Father
of Jesus Christ.
How can Yahweh be a unity of Father and Son, if Yahweh is the Father
of Jesus Christ?

 

LU:  Look in this verse which seems to be Yahweh as the Son:

Zech11:13 Yahweh said to me, “Throw it to the potter, the handsome price t…

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Mike,

Yahweh is one God comprised of two persons.

Like one coin which has two sides, each side looks different and represents different things. Each side of the coin needs to have the other side in order to be what it is…a coin of highest value (for the sake of the analogy.) Each side is referred to as a coin. If you see a coin on the ground, w…[Read more]

Mike: But they ARE two different gods, right? Because if the father is a god and the son is a god, and they are two different individual beings, then there is no other option except for them to be two different individual gods, right?

Whether they act in unison (united in purpose) or not, they’d still be two completely different individual go…

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Gene:  Isa 44v17…..And the residue thereof (a tree),  he “makes” a God, even his graven image; he falls down unto it, and worships “IT”, and prays unto “IT”, and says unto “IT” , Deliever me; for you are my God.  

That’s one of my favorite passages in the Bible.

Isaiah 44:16-17… He burns half of it in the fire, and he roasts meat on that hal…[Read more]

Gene:  when Jesus said i say you are all God’s , he meant that in a possive sense ,  that is why it also say “unto hum the word of God came”. 

I have already corrected you on this before (one of the many times you just ignored my correction, ran away from the thread for a while, just to come back later and claim the same damn thing that I already…[Read more]

Carmel……I deffenitly believe the earth “came to be”,  tohu and bohu,  void and corupted, the key word in Gen 1:2,  is the word “was” that word means it “came to be” that, Meanning of course it wasen’t that way before, it came to be tohu and bohu.  

The language in Gen 1: 1-2,  certanly lends itself to a prexisting earth that ” came to be”,   …[Read more]