• Profile picture of Lightenup

    @Proclaimer

    reposted for your convenience, please answer:

    Proclaimer,

    You said:

    You either believe or you don’t. Fine.
    So, what do YOU proclaim, Proclaimer? Do you think that God could produce a “biological” son, one that comes through some sort of an asexual reproductive process and in that manner the son is the actual, literal offsp…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Lightenup

    Amen, Berean!

    May God bless you with increased understanding as you continue to seek the Father and the Son and their Spirit!!

    LU

  • Profile picture of Berean

    Hi LU

    Thank you Berean, you understand. Jesus is a son of God in the highest, truest sense begotten before the ages. He is unique as a son compared to any other entity that has been identified as a son of God in some other manner. He is the only begotten Son of God as Jesus, Himself tells us in John 3:16: 

    We agree on this essential point.
    God…[Read more]

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    China’s Longjiang-2 satellite photographed the Moon’s far side and the Earth in a single shot. There is speculation that China want to own the far side of the moon and then develop things there so the world cannot see. But Mike thinks that China is working with the US and all other countries with a space program to hide the flat earth from us.

    Moon-Earth

  • Profile picture of Lightenup

    Thank you Berean, you understand. Jesus is a son of God in the highest, truest sense begotten before the ages. He is unique as a son compared to any other entity that has been identified as a son of God in some other manner. He is the only begotten Son of God as Jesus, Himself tells us in John 3:16:

    16“For God so loved the world, that He gave His…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Berean

    Hi Mike

    I assume that LU means by “Biological son” what is written in Romans 8 (in capitals)
    verse 3: For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending HIS OWN SON in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:

    and verses 31.32
    What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us,…[Read more]

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    Please answer my question, guys.

     

    Hi Mike,

    Danny?  Does it make sense to you that the red line by the zero is what Jesus would have called “the BEGINNING of creation”?

    Adam?  Please answer.

    Gene?  Please answer.

    Carmel?  Please answer.

    Pretender?  Please answer.

    Thanks.

     

    Me: Mike, read what Jesus said:

    Mark 10:6 But from the beginnin…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Berean

    Hi to all

    Daily Devotional

    THE DECEIVER (THE AUSTRALIAN LYREBIRD) 

    AN AMAZING FACT: The Australian lyrebird is a copycat (or shall we say “copy bird”?). It is best known for its superb ability to mimic the sounds of other birds in the forest. It has also been heard to copy the sounds of chainsaws, car alarms, barking dogs, crying babies, and e…[Read more]

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    The Bible teaching a solid dome hypothesis
    Stop saying that the bible teaches a glass dome / firmament. It doesn’t. Firmament just means sky.

    “And God said, Let the waters swarm with swarms of living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.”

    Ask yourself. Did the glass dome open up allowing birds to escape?…[Read more]

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    One possible explanation is the dense atmosphere. It blocked out light. Then as then as the atmosphere cleared, the sun’s light filtered through the watery (cloudy) atmosphere. Later in Day four, the atmosphere completely cleared to the point that you could see the actual sun, moon, and stars.

    Another explanation is that darkness here means chaos…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Lightenup

    Mike,

    You said:

    Satan, of course.  Just like every single commentator on this page (including Barnes and Gill) believes.

    Do they also believe that Jesus was created?

    See how you want to make another ridiculous point.

    Do you think that the true Light that entered the world has some people blinded?

     

  • Profile picture of Lightenup

    Mike,

    You asked:

     Yes or No, please.

    Yes. Not the same part though. There is the “them” part and the “us” part. The Father and Son are of the “US” and the followers of Christ are to be part of the “them.”

    There is an “us” and a “them”…a “we” and a “they.” There will always be an “us” and a “them.” Those in the “US” group are desiring to be a…[Read more]

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    Mike,

    This is also a ridiculous question of yours:

    You asked:

     Who is right, Kathi?  Proclaimer or the Bible?

    The answer has nothing to do with us both having the same concern about your teaching.  If we have different views of what passage abc means, it is ridiculous to extrapolate that as a reason we couldn’t both be concerned about what yo…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of mikeboll64

    Mike: You say he is a PART of that God .

     

    LU: So does Jesus.

    John 17:20   …You, Father, are in Me, and I am in You.

    John 17:21…  that all of them may be one, as You, Father, are in Me, and I am in You. May they also be in Us, so that the world may believe that You sent Me.

    So in your mind, is that Jesus saying that his disciples – and all…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Lightenup

    Another ridiculous comment from you, Mike:

    You asked:

     Are we told anything otherwise about Adam that we aren’t also told about Jesus?

    How about this…

    Gen 2:7 Then the LORD God formed man from the dust of the ground and breathed the breath of life into his nostrils, and the man became a living being.

  • Profile picture of mikeboll64

    Mike:  2.  And is Jesus the Son OF the God that you worship and serve as the Creator of heaven, earth, sea, and all that is in them?

     

    LU:  I worship both the Father and the Son as the creator of heaven and earth, sea, and all that is in them.

    That’s not what I asked you.  Please directly and honestly answer the question I actually asked.  Thanks.

  • Profile picture of Lightenup

    Mike,

    You said:

    You say he is a PART of that God .

    So does Jesus.

    John 17:20   …You, Father, are in Me, and I am in You.

  • Profile picture of mikeboll64

    Mike: No scripture ever mentions “biological son” in reference to Jesus and God.

    LU:  That is an example of one of your ridiculous arguments that you think should actually be made.

    Great.  Let’s see if the argument actually IS ridiculous, or if maybe you just don’t understand it.

    LU:  A son, by default is a biological offspring of the parent.…

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  • Profile picture of mikeboll64

    LU:  I see two people here that have given you a lot of their time trying to help you and we are both telling you similar things.

    Correction, you are both attacking me personally – instead of my scripturally supported arguments.  Case in point…

    LU:  …you are the one being exposed as the puppet of the master deceiver. It isn’t even hard for…

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  • Profile picture of Lightenup

    Mike,

    You ask:

    2.  And is Jesus the Son OF the God that you worship and serve as the Creator of heaven, earth, sea, and all that is in them?

    I worship both the Father and the Son as the creator of heaven and earth, sea, and all that is in them.

    Rev 5

    13And I heard every creature in heaven and on earth and under the earth and in the sea, and al…[Read more]

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