Hi Gene,

You: Carmel…….Again you prove you “really” don’t believe what Jesus actually said,   so i will quote him again for you ok?   

ME: WHAT YOU POSTED Gene, are not Jesus’ own words but yours according to your corrupted mentality simply to reject Jesus as THE TRUE GOD ON EARTH! READ 

1John 5:20 And we know that the Son of God is come:…[Read more]

New no1 verse contenders for bible teaching a flat earth according to gadam

“And upon Elam will I bring the four winds from the four quarters of heaven, and will scatter them toward all those winds; and there shall be no nation whither the outcasts of Elam shall not come” (Jer 49:36, KJV).
“Son of man, this is what the Sovereign LORD says to the l…

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You say that earth and heaven (including the sun, moon, and stars) were created by the end of Gen 1:1.

You suggest that despite the sun existing, a dense atmosphere kept the surface of the earth in darkness.

Okay, so when God said, “Let there be light” and separated the light from the darkness, what actually happened to make light reach the ear…

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Mike,

You said:

If it was a matter of just that ONE “possessed/created” word, you might have a valid argument.  But that word is immediately followed up by three other words from Jesus himself that DEMAND a meaning of “created” for the first word.

Really???  I was given birth, when there were no springs overflowing with water; before the mount…[Read more]

Mike,

You have asked this multiple times:

KATHI, DOES YOUR GOD AND CREATOR HAVE A SON NAMED JESUS OR NOT?

The Father and the Son are the creator. The Father has a son named Jesus. The Father together with His Son are the creator. They are my God.

Mike,

You said:

And since Jesus’s title “only begotten son of God” had nothing to do with him being brought into existence before the world began, there is nothing in the entirety of scripture to suggest that the manner in which Jesus was brought into existence is any different than the way God’s other heavenly sons were brought into existen…

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LU:  Together they are YHVH! I worship them as our YHVH creator.

Yes… so you’ve said repeatedly.  I’m asking you if the God that YOU worship and serve as the Creator of heaven, earth, sea, and everything in them has a son and servant named Jesus.

Kathi, your God and Creator have a son named Jesus or not?

Mike,

You said:

On the other hand, we know for a fact that God has given authority over all the kingdoms of the world to Satan.  (Luke 4:6)

That was satan’s claim, he was lying.

Ellicott’s Commentary for English Readers:

The notion that any such delegated sovereignty had been assigned to the Tempter, either before or after his fall from his…

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Mike:  Every heavenly son of God is “God’s own son”.

LU: Please provide scriptures that call any son an only begotten Son of God.

Why are you conflating “God’s own son” with “only begotten son”?  Consider the example of Isaac, Abraham’s “only begotten son”.  Does that mean that Ismael is somehow NOT “Abraham’s own son”?  Are not ALL of your chil…[Read more]

Mike,

You regarding this:

Mike:  But first, one simple question that should lay it all out in the open for all to see…

1.  KATHI, WHO EXACTLY IS THE “GOD” THAT YOU WORSHIP AND SERVE AS THE CREATOR OF HEAVEN, EARTH, SEA, AND ALL THAT IS IN THEM?

LU:  YAHWEH, THE GOD OF GODS AND THE LORD OF LORDS.

Mike:  2.  And is Jesus the Son OF the Go…

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Mike,

You said:

Every heavenly son of God is “God’s own son”.

Please provide scriptures that call any son an only begotten Son of God.

 You said:

None of us will EVER become a part of Jesus OR a part of his and our God, Yahweh.

Wrong!

1 Cor 12 27Now you are Christ’s body, and individually parts of it.

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Mike:  Proclaimer, if heaven and earth and sun were already in existence by the end of Gen 1:1, why was there darkness over the surface of the deep in Gen 1:2?

Proclaimer:  One possible explanation is the dense atmosphere. It blocked out light. Then as the atmosphere cleared, the sun’s light filtered through the watery / gaseous atmosphere allow…

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Proclaimer:  How did this bad boy come through the firmament. I have a theory. The firmament is open sky.

“And God said, Let the waters swarm with swarms of living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.”

You mean that giant sinkhole?  Sinkholes happen all the time on the earth.  Nothing need to come through…[Read more]

Mike:  Every heavenly son of God is “God’s own son”.  After all, who else’s son would they be if not God’s?  

Berean:  Yes by creation

There are at least four different scriptures that say Jesus was also created, Berean.  You don’t LIKE that thought and so try to ignore/twist those scriptures into not saying what they CLEARLY say, but that c…[Read more]

I was just scrolling through my most recent comments and realized that I have made a TERRIBLE blunder in this post…

Kathi’s direct answer (that Jesus’ disciples and all who believe through them WILL become a part of Jesus and God) is most certainly NOT the correct answer!  None of us will EVER become a part of Jesus OR a part of his and…[Read more]

Flat Earth?

The biblical evidence presented for a flat earth is fourfold and includes 1) the firmament, 2) the waters and the heavens above, 3) the earth being immovable, and 4) specific texts that supposedly refer to a flat earth are given below;

1. Firmament/Vault Texts

   “And God said, ‘Let there be a vault between the waters to separate wat…

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Bible Verses about Flat Earth
What does the bible say about the flat earth theory? Although the theory of Earth being flat is not directly spoken about, some verses describe the potential shape of our planet. One verse mentions the “four corners of the earth” and could be interpreted as a flat earth. The following are such verses;

1 Chr…[Read more]

Bible Verses about Flat Earth 
What does the bible say about the flat earth theory? Although the theory of Earth being flat is not directly spoken about, some verses describe the potential shape of our planet. One verse mentions the “four corners of the earth” and could be interpreted as a flat earth. The following are such verses;

1. 1…

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@Proclaimer

Third time reposted for your convenience, please answer:

Proclaimer,

You said:

You either believe or you don’t. Fine.
So, what do YOU proclaim, Proclaimer? Do you think that God could produce a “biological” son, one that comes through some sort of an asexual reproductive process and in that manner the son is the actual, liter…[Read more]