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    To many inside cults, everyone outside the cult doing the work of God is considered a false prophet, false teacher, false apostle, etc.

    But when you have come out of Babylon, the mother of all false religions, then you can see with your own eyes and make sound judgements about other people.

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    @desiretruth

    I didn’t ask if Satan was the “god” of this world, I asked who the “ruler” of this world is.

    The original Greek word used in 2 Corinthians 4:4 for “god” is θεός (theos).

    In that verse, Paul uses theos in a generic sense to describe Satan as a (false) god who has power and influence over the present world system, blinding unbeliev…[Read more]

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    Ezekiel 28 first addresses the ‘prince of Tyre’ (Ezekiel 28:1-10) and then shifts to address the ‘king of Tyre’ (Ezekiel 28:11-19).

    The first section about the prince of Tyre is directed at a human ruler who is proud and claims to be like a god. The second section, addressed to the king of Tyre, uses language that many see as going beyond a human…[Read more]

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    Russia collusion ‘lie’: How CNN & New York Times played a starring role

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    @Keith,

    That isn’t proof, that’s called assumptions (or parroting); the text as a whole doesn’t support G-d speaking of Satan, HE is addressing the king HE is about to judge, along with the city because of their corruption/sin.

    Did you read beginning in verse 1 or not; did you compare verses 1-10 to verses 11-19 (magically a parallel); did you…[Read more]

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    Keith replied to the topic light vs darkness in the forum About Believers Place 1 year ago

    28:12– Son of man, lift up a dirge concerning the King of Tyre, and you must say to him. This is what the sovereign Lord Jehovah has said. You are sealing up a pattern, full of wisdom and perfect in beauty. 13=In Eden the garden of God you proved to be)))))= not the king of Tyre but the fallen anointed Cherub was in Eden= 100% fact.

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    @Keith,

    Now you’re just making stuff up! It says nothing of the sort…showing the king of Tyre who the fallen angel is?!?!?Thankfully I wasn’t drinking anything because I would have spit it all over my screen. Where did you come up with that and do you seriously believe it?!?!?

    Reread 28:11-19 and go verse by verse explaining what’s happening.…[Read more]

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    Keith replied to the topic light vs darkness in the forum About Believers Place 1 year ago

    If you read it, it says–this is what you are to say to the King of Tyre–Its about the fallen angel in the garden=the anointed Cherub.

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    Russiagate Conspiracy Timeline

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    @Keith,

    WHEN does it change, at the word “cherub”?!?!? Then does it shift back to the king of Tyre? Who is the “you” in this entire passage referring? What your saying doesn’t make sense; either it’s all about Satan or it’s all about the king, it CANNOT be both! Since it begins with addressing the king of Tyre, IT HAS TO BE TO THE KING OF TYRE…[Read more]

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    A horn = a kingdom( country)–thus a 2 horned beast = 2 countries working together as the final world power.

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    Keith replied to the topic light vs darkness in the forum About Believers Place 1 year ago

    Yes it speaks of the king of Tyre, but then switches to the anointed cherub=0 doubt. A Cherub is an angel– it is showing how he fell to badness because of his beauty. He showed in the wilderness to Jesus he seeks to be worshipped.

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    @Keith,

    When it states–you were in Eden–ALL know 100% the king of Tyre was not in Eden, but its talking about the anointed Cherub=satan.–verse 14 says its the anointed Cherub=in Eden=the fallen angel.

    I never stated or implied the king was in Eden; in fact I said he wasn’t, couldn’t have been.  But that’s not even the question or a point of conten…[Read more]

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    @Proclaimer,

    I didn’t ask if Satan was the “god” of this world, I asked who the “ruler” of this world is. This distinction makes a huge difference in understanding. I won’t argue against christians MAKING Satan a “god” by applying and projecting all evil onto him, making him the patsy for every evil inclination and sinful act of mankind, and fo…[Read more]

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    Keith replied to the topic light vs darkness in the forum About Believers Place 1 year ago

    Satan rules this wicked system. 2Cor 4:4 calls him the god of this system. The true living God=Jehovah is in full control of all creation, he is allowing satan to rule this wicked system because mortals rebelled in Eden and asked for it. Gods kingdom rule will cure it all.

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    Keith replied to the topic light vs darkness in the forum About Believers Place 1 year ago

    When it states–you were in Eden–ALL know 100% the king of Tyre was not in Eden, but its talking about the anointed Cherub=satan.–verse 14 says its the anointed Cherub=in Eden=the fallen angel.

    Onto the earth i will throw you=satan after losing the war in heaven.(28:17)

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    False Christs and false prophets will arise and will perform great signs and wonders, so as to deceive, if possible, the very elect. Matthew 24:24.

    Revelation 13

    11] Then I saw another beast coming up out of the earth, with two horns like a lamb and speaking like a dragon.
    And he exercised all the authority of the first beast before him, and…[Read more]

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    What was your point? I was saying Satan isn’t the ruler of this world, G-d is.

    The point is that many who read the Bible think the World means the Planet. And because of that, much scripture is misinterpreted.

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    Kim Clement Prophecy WARNED Obama in 2010!

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    Maybe now The Deep State will Fall?

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