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    What is said in the Advent Messenger is only a reflection of the article below and which should make people think, especially the American government, but not only…

    Sources

     https://kanivatonga.co.nz/2025/04/time-to-end-tongas-hypocritical-sunday-laws-or-enforce-them-equally/

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    Time to end Tonga’s hypocritical Sunday laws or enforce them eq…

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    @ Post #947343

    I’m about verifying everything and wish people would do the same.

    The islands of Tongo do have a law enshrined in their constitution which states Sunday to be a day of worship and no work is to be done including certain activities. HOWEVER, there is a huge piece missing from the story posted on the “advent messenger”; it’s the peo…[Read more]

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    Holy Day or Harmful Policy? Tonga’s Sunday Law Sparks Outrage over Injustice
     

    The Kingdom of Tonga is an island nation located in Polynesia that has Sunday laws embedded in its 1875 Constitution. For 150 years, Tonga’s Sunday laws—which prohibit most commercial and recreational activities on Sundays— have established Sunday as a sacred day of…[Read more]

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    @Berean,

    To funny! Typical, questions you can’t/won’t answer; if you did, you would discover you have been lied to your entire life but fear keeps you where you are. As a former “christian” I believed some of what you do; the only difference is I started looking into what was being taught and started questioning it. I began verifying what I was…[Read more]

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    @DT
    I give up on talking to you anymore.

    Goodbye

    I don’t want to waste any more time with you.

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    @Berean,

    Which “Sunday Keepers” DON’T you consider “under the banner of Satan,” are “apostates,” are “Babylon,” or are the “daughters of Babylon”?

    Concerning the “true remnant”:

    Rev. 12:17] And the dragon (Satan through the Roman Empire) was wroth with the woman (the faithful church), and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, those who…

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    @DT

    Do you believe that “Sunday keepers” are “under the banner of Satan,” are “apostates,” are “Babylon,” or are the “daughters of Babylon”?

    Me

    No, not all of them.

     

    You

    Do you believe that Sabbath observance is the great wall of separation between God’s true remnant people and the deceived and lost world?

    me

    yes

    Biblical…[Read more]

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    @Berean,

    I never questioned the importance of following G-d’s commands; what I asked was:

    Do you believe “Sunday-keepers” are “under the banner of Satan,” are “apostate,” are “Babylon,” or the “daughters of Babylon”?

    Do you believe Sabbath observance is the great separating wall between God’s true remnant people and the deceived, lost world?…[Read more]

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    @DT

    Well, I conclude that you consider obedience to God’s commandments unimportant.
    That’s serious.

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    @Post #947333,

    I made it less than two minutes into this video and realized it was AI generated. Did a quick search and couldn’t immediately find this particular sermon ever being spoken by Graham. In other words they took words of someone else and put Billy Graham’s voice to it. What has the church devolved into?!?!?

    By posting this you have…[Read more]

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    @DT

    YOU

    Jer. 46:27-28; Ps. 136:22; Luke 1:54. ALSO: Given the Christian view that Jesus is God, is God his own servant?

    me

    27] But do not be afraid, O my servant Jacob, and do not be dismayed, O Israel! For, behold, I will save you from a far country, and your descendants from the land of their captivity. Jacob will return and rest and be at…[Read more]

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    @DT

    You
    Other references to Israel as God’s servant include Jer. 30:10 (note that in Jeremiah 30:17, the servant Israel is considered by the nations as an outcast, abandoned by God, as in Isaiah 53:4)

    me

    Jeremiah 30:10
    10] Therefore do not fear, my servant Jacob, says the Lord; and do not be dismayed, Israel! For, behold, I will save you from a…[Read more]

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    #SabbathTruth​, #FaithOverTradition​
    Have you ever wondered why so many churches avoid talking about the true Sabbath? In this eye-opening 39-minute motivational speech, Billy Graham boldly reveals the deep-rooted fears and traditions that keep the truth hidden. This message isn’t about religion—it’s about a relationship with God and the coura…[Read more]

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    @DT

    Verse 5 should lead you to a reasonable conclusion.

    5] And now, says the Lord, who formed me from the womb,

    To be his servant,

    To turn Jacob to himself:

    Though Israel be not gathered, I will be glorified before the Lord, and my God will be my strength.

    IF JACOB/ISRAEL IS THE SERVANT HERE,
    HOW CAN HE TURN HIMSELF BACK TO THE…[Read more]

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    @Berean

    The author of that article has taken a lot of liberty in his interpretation. The language used in verses 1-13 makes it impossible to be a reference to the Jesus. Everything is about context in which it was written; you cannot parachute into the middle of a thought, pick out a sentence or two and create your own idea of what it means; this…[Read more]

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    @DT

    You

     

    52:13 “Behold, My servant will prosper.” Israel in the singular is called G-d’s servant throughout Isaiah, both explicitly (Isa. 41:8-9; 44:1-2; 45:4; 48:20; 49:3)…

     

    Me

     

    TEXTS FROM ISRAEL THE SERVANT WITH WHICH I AGREE

    Isaiah 41:8 ] But you, Israel, are my servant, Jacob whom I have chosen, the seed of Abraham, my frien…[Read more]

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    @Berean,

    I would recommend looking up and verifying 1everything written below, look at every verse given and prove it wrong or right. If it is right, what will you do with it? Will you accept or reject it.

    In the original Hebrew texts, there are no chapter divisions, and Jew and Christian alike agree that chapter 53 is actually a continuation of…[Read more]

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    @DT

    He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.
    Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.
    But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was…[Read more]

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    @Berean,

    “Just because God refused Moses to take the sins of the people upon himself does not mean that God, through His Son, could not.”

    Did you miss the other passages given where G-d said the sinner is responsible for what they do? Are you calling G-d a liar? It doesn’t matter what your belief says the Jesus could do; all that matters is what…[Read more]

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    @ DT

    you

    Read Exodus 32:30-35, where Moses was about to take the sins of the people and God said NO; they would be responsible for what they had done against God and inflicted a plague on them.

    me

    Just because God refused Moses to take the sins of the people upon himself does not mean that God, through His Son, could not.

    If Adam and Eve…[Read more]

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