@Berean,

YOU: It is God’s purpose, to write his law in hearts. And so Gentiles with the law of God written in their hearts will not go to hell.

ME: If the law is written on our hearts and we will be judge accordingly, our salvation (either children of God or condemned) is hinged on how we uphold the law?!? If that’s the case, there is no point i…[Read more]

@dedire Truth

Your last remodeled question was in your penultimate post the following:

For brevity sake let me help you along;👉 is it safe to say, with Jesus you go to heaven and without Jesus you go to hell?👈

I answered NO

AND I GAVE BIBLICAL REASONS.
IN Romans IN PARTICULAR.

HAVE YOU READ THE VERSES?

1) All who have sinned without the law…[Read more]

@Berean,
You respond with NO! If we don’t need Jesus, what is the point of christianity?
Explain John 3:16; sounds to me with Jesus – heaven (eternal life), without – hell (perish).
Are you intentionally being obstinate? There is a point to my question, just answer it!

Gene

Jesus never spoke the language of wood…
When he says, “Before Abraham was, I am.”

IT MEANS EXACTLY WHAT IT MEANS: JESUS AS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD WAS BEFORE ABRAHAM….

AND EVEN IN JOHN 17….

And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.

YAHSHUA said unto them,…[Read more]

@ desire Truth

NO

Read

👇

God
Who will render to every man according to his deeds:
To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honor and immortality, eternal life:
But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,
Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul…[Read more]

Berean……..I think Desire Truth, is not trying to dismiss Jesus as a messiah, but simply trying to get you to see him in a right way.  The way the Old Testament Jew’s viewed him.  They saw Jesus as a descendent of king David, not as a “preexisting” being  who was “morphed” into a human being from some kind of past life as you view him.

I also see…[Read more]

Hi to all

Here is the Daily Devotional

DOES EZEKIEL TEACH THAT WE SHOULD BAPTIZE BY SPRINKLING?

There is a popular belief that these verses prefigure the introduction of sprinkling for baptism. But do references to sprinkling in the Old Testament have a connection with the ordinance of baptism in the New Testament? A few facts reveal that it…[Read more]

@Berean,

For brevity sake let me help you along; is it safe to say, with Jesus you go to heaven and without Jesus you go to hell?

Do you think you are doing BETTER than modern Christianity by dismissing the real MESSIAH?

Salvation and how you get it isn’t the question, the question is “what is modern christianity truly based on?”

Don’t make this complicated, think basic like a child – “with this, you receive this; without this, you receive this.”

Explain your means of salvation to you, you haven’t said anything yet.

@Berean,

You’re trying to make it “spiritual” and are missing it. Go basic, like you’re telling a child; without this, you receive this.

@ desire Truth

The commandments of God and the faith of Jesus work together.
Without Jesus, we can’t do anything…

I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman.

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Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he takesth away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.

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Now ye are clean through…[Read more]

@Berean,

If you don’t keep the commands or the faith, then what?

@desire Truth

For me, true Christianity is summarized (among others) in Revelation 14:12
Here is the patience of the saints:👉 here are they that keep the commandments of ELOHIYM, and the faith of YAHSHUA.👈

🙏

@Berean,

Let me rephrase the question, what is modern “christianity” truly based on?

@ Berean,

Those aren’t proofs, they’re doctrines and I have thrown out doctrine in favor of scriptural truth. If doctrine cannot be confirmed by scripture, it’s man made in my eyes. Now I asked to find a preexistent Jesus in the old testament, not the new…begin!

Riddle me this, what is “christianity” truly based on? If you say “love”, before…[Read more]

@ desire Truth

The proofs have already been given a long time ago.

Do a search on the forum….
If you can’t find it, ask God.

Why won’t you find when many have found….?

🙏